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    Thread: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

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      Arrow 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

      Assalam o Alikum Peghamians!

      Hope U ll B Fine n Happy INSHALLAH!

      Jesa k ap sab jaanty hain k AUGUST ka Mahina start ho chuka hai n off course Paki's Birthday iz somehow very near....MASHALLAH.....!

      per humin is birthday k "MAQSAD" per baat krna hai.....
      or Birthday ka "MAQSAD" off course......."JASHN-E-AZADI" hai

      Viewers.......apny views hamary sath share kijiye k kiya hum WAQAI Azad hain......ya hum ne apni ankhin meechi hoi hain sacchae se?

      Apk views ka intizar rahy ga.
      ik baat kehna chahoon gi.......ager hum mai koi burai hai to jab tak hum usko accept nahi ker lety uska cure mushkil hai is lye tamaam +ve n -ve points k sath baat kijiye ga.

      Humin Pakistan ko Aagy ley kr jana hai........buhat aagy INSHALLAH........tamaam kamzooryaan door kr k........!

      KHUSH RAHYYE
      Pakistan Zinda Baad.......!

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      Re: DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

      walaikum salam Me here!

      sure inshAllah ...
      " Obstacles are what you see when you take your eyes off your goals "

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      Re: DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

      jis tarah ham america ki jee hazuri me lage hen or us ke hukam par apne hi logon ka khoon tak baha rahen hen or america ko khush karne ke leay apni education,apni riwayaat,tehzeeb hata ke apne mazhab me bhi changes lane par majbur hen us se to yehi sabit he k ham america ke ghulam hen.hamare hukmaran har har baat ke elay america ki taraf dekhte hen k kahin aqaa naraz na ho jaenmehez aik din 14th august ko jhandyin lehra lene se ya jashan mana lene se sabit nahi hota k ham azaad hen.jis maksad ke elay hamare buzargon ne lakhon qurbaniyan de kar Pakistan hasil kia wo maksad zati mufadaat ki bheer me gum ho chuka he.


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      Re: DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

      Quote Originally Posted by bloo View Post
      walaikum salam Me here!

      sure inshAllah ...
      INSHALLAH!
      Last edited by Shaim; 5th August 2007 at 07:48.

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      Re: DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

      Quote Originally Posted by hamzad View Post
      jis tarah ham america ki jee hazuri me lage hen or us ke hukam par apne hi logon ka khoon tak baha rahen hen or america ko khush karne ke leay apni education,apni riwayaat,tehzeeb hata ke apne mazhab me bhi changes lane par majbur hen us se to yehi sabit he k ham america ke ghulam hen.hamare hukmaran har har baat ke elay america ki taraf dekhte hen k kahin aqaa naraz na ho jaenmehez aik din 14th august ko jhandyin lehra lene se ya jashan mana lene se sabit nahi hota k ham azaad hen.jis maksad ke elay hamare buzargon ne lakhon qurbaniyan de kar Pakistan hasil kia wo maksad zati mufadaat ki bheer me gum ho chuka he.
      Hamzad Khush Amdeed in the Debate!

      rite.......yani in ur views hum azad nahi......hum ghulam hain......AMERICA k ghulaam....!

      pr ik baat pochna chahoon gi.....kiya apko lgta hai ye Musharraf Hakoomat ne humin ghulam bana diya hai?
      ya hum Mush Daur se pehly bhi ghulaam thy????

      Reply ka intizaar rahy ga
      KHUSH RAHIN HAMESHA!

      WASALAM!

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      Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

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      Assalam o Alikum Peghamians!
      W/Salam Me Here

      Hope U ll B Fine n Happy INSHALLAH!

      Alhamdulillah

      Jesa k ap sab jaanty hain k AUGUST ka Mahina start ho chuka hai n off course Paki's Birthday iz somehow very near....MASHALLAH.....!



      per humin is birthday k "MAQSAD" per baat krna hai.....
      or Birthday ka "MAQSAD" off course......."JASHN-E-AZADI" hai


      Viewers.......apny views hamary sath share kijiye k kiya hum WAQAI Azad hain......ya hum ne apni ankhin meechi hoi hain sacchae se?

      Azad....Kabhi ham azad thay....phir jab angraiz aaya bare sagheer main tu hamare kuch janbaz aur sachay logon nay azadi k saath us ka muqabila kia ... laikin kuch bay Eaman Logon Like Meer Jafar jaise logon ki wajha say ham un ki ghulami main chalay gay .... laikin ham apne un mujhadon ka diya hoowa wo sabaq k shair ki aik din ki zindagey Geedar ki so sala zindagey say behtar hoti hai bhool gay...aur us ko dohranay ki koshish hi nahien kee aur aahista aahista ham logon na sirf Muashi Ghulam bal k Zehni ghulam bantay gay....Phir us k baad aik waqt aaya k kuch log jinhain is qom say mohabat thee apne deen say mohabat kertay thay aur unhon nay wo sabaq yaad kiya tha jo k ham say pehle kamyab aur azad logon nay hamain diya tha ... unhon nay apni qom ko jhanjora aur us ko wo sabaq yaad dilaya......unhon ne qurbaniyan deen apna mal apni jaan hata k apni izatain bhi gunwaien aur us k baad angraiz aur hindu dono say azadi hasil ker lee laikin afsos k wo chand log bhi ziyada dair tak hamare beech main na reh sakay aur un ko itna moqa na mil saka k wo in azad logon k liey kuch ker sakain ya un ko bta sakain k azadi tu tum nay hasi ker lee hai ab tum nay is azadi ko istamal kaisay kerna hai.....us k bad aik k baad doosra jo bhi aata gya us ko shayad azadi k mafhooom ka pata nahein tha aur is tarha ham logon nay muashrati tour per tu azadi hasil ker lee laikin zehni tour per abi tak un k ghulam hain...pehle britishars k thay ab america k hain......aur ab hamari halat us lateefay jaisee hai..

      Aik Badshah Slamat is wajha say pareshan thay k un ki Awam kuch bolti na thee chahay wo acha kam kerain ya bura...wo apni awam k raey janina chatay thay apne baray main tu unhon city k andar anay walay rastay per pehra laga diya k jo mazdoor aaey us ki checking kero is tarha logon ko dushwari hoee tu badsha nay socha k shayad ab log shikayat lay ker aaien gay..laikin koee nahien aaya..tu unhon nay order diya k in logon ko Murgha Bna ker Pul k ooper say guzara jaey logon nay murga ban k gu8zarna shuroo ker diya...laikin phir bhi koee na aaya ... phir King nay her banday ko 10 jootay bhi saath lagwanay shuroo ker diey laikin ab bhi koee nanhein bola yeh jootay barha k 20 ho gay tab bhi koee nahien bola tu king nay aik jalsa kia aur awam say poocha k aap ko koee takleef tu nahi hai na tu un main say aik shakhs utha aur bola Badsha Salamat aur tu koee takleef nahien hai bas jootay marne walon ki tadad agar barha dain tu bari mehrbani ho gee k ham apni mazdoori say late ho jatay hain...

      Tu ab hamara bhi wo hi haal hai

      Apk views ka intizar rahy ga.
      ik baat kehna chahoon gi.......ager hum mai koi burai hai to jab tak hum usko accept nahi ker lety uska cure mushkil hai is lye

      ham apni buari ko accept tu kertay hain laikin un ko chorne ki koshish nahein kertay aur yahi hamara masla hai
      tamaam +ve n -ve points k sath baat kijiye ga.

      Humin Pakistan ko Aagy ley kr jana hai........buhat aagy
      Insha Allah hain Ummid ka daman nahien chorna chahiey...yeh andhai Insha Allah zaroor chotay ga....ab lagta hai k ham logon nay aahista aahista phir say jagna shurooker diya hai ... subha honay wali hai ...InshaAllah Pakistan Jis maqsad k liey liya gya tha wo zaroor poora ho ga....bas agar ham kuch nahien ker sakay tu kam az kam apni Next nasal ko tayar ker dain k wo kuch ker dikhain......hamari tayari is lihaz say nahien thee laikin ham un ko tayar ker saktay hain....aur agar ham un k darmiyan hooway tu ham bhi un k saath hoon gay..Insha Allah
      INSHALLAH........tamaam kamzooryaan door kr k........!

      KHUSH RAHYYE
      Pakistan Zinda Baad.......!

      Pakistan painda Baad

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      Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

      u ve come wid Nice points.....
      soon Reply INSHALLAH

      KHUSH RAHIN Bhai!

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      Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

      Assalam o Alikum Peghamians!

      Hope U ll B Fine n Happy INSHALLAH!

      Jesa k ap sab jaanty hain k AUGUST ka Mahina start ho chuka hai n off course Paki's Birthday iz somehow very near....MASHALLAH.....!
      w/salam dear sister


      per humin is birthday k "MAQSAD" per baat krna hai.....
      birthday ka maqsad....?
      or Birthday ka "MAQSAD" off course......."JASHN-E-AZADI" hai
      jab birth day ka maqsad serf jashan manana hi hay to phir aap ka dosra sawal baymani hojata hy yani k kaya hum waqe hi azad hain aur moaf kijiye ga mujhy to aap apny sawalat main khud kafi uljhi hui lag rahi hain yani aap ye teh hi naheen kar par rahi k aap ka is thred ko lagany ka maqsad kaya hy?


      Viewers.......apny views hamary sath share kijiye k kiya hum WAQAI Azad hain......ya hum ne apni ankhin meechi hoi hain sacchae se?

      jab abhi ye teh hi naheen hua k hum azad hain ya naheen ya phir hum ny ankheen meechi hui hain to aap ki oper wali yani jasan ko maqsad banay wali baat che mani darad.? yani wo baat bilkul fazool hojati hy .

      Apk views ka intizar rahy ga.
      hum apny views zaroor dain gay pehly aap apna nuqta e nazar wazy kareen k aap kis mozu par guftgu chati hain..?
      khush rahiye

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      Re: DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

      Quote Originally Posted by Me Here View Post
      Hamzad Khush Amdeed in the Debate!


      rite.......yani in ur views hum azad nahi......hum ghulam hain......AMERICA k ghulaam....!

      pr ik baat pochna chahoon gi.....kiya apko lgta hai ye Musharraf Hakoomat ne humin ghulam bana diya hai?
      ya hum Mush Daur se pehly bhi ghulaam thy????

      Reply ka intizaar rahy ga
      KHUSH RAHIN HAMESHA!

      WASALAM!
      haan ham mush dor se pehle bhi ghulam hi the ham ne america ke kehne par taliban ko mujahideen karar de kar russia ke khilaf jung lari or aaj bhi amrica ke kehne par unhi taliban ko jo kal tak mujahid the aaj dehshat gard karar de dia or bush ki so called war against terror me us ke front line itehadi ban gae (ager apni aik azaad soch hoti to aik baar to sochte k kal jin ko mujahid kehte the aaj kis mooh se unhi ko dehshat gard keh rahe hen serf is leay k america keh raha he)lekin aik baat zarur he k jis tarah musharaf ke dor me amrica ko khul kar game karne ka moka mila he us se pehle esa nahi tha.is leay ham keh sakte hen k ager ghulami me koi kasar reh gai thi to wo mr musharaf ne puri kar di

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      Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

      walaikum Salam Me here!

      Ham log waqai Alhumdulilah Azad hein aur hameiN iss per Allah T''ala ka bohot shukar ada kerna chahiye. wo iss liye key aaj bhi ham dunya key bohot saarey mulkoN sey behtar haiN, kam sey kam hamari aik shanakht to hai aur yahi shaknakht hamari Azadi ki daleel hai.Kehtey hein key mayoosi kufr hai kyun key mayoosi sirf andheroN mey ley jati hai.Hamari soch ka hamarey amaal key saht aik gehra link hota hai, agar soch hi mayoos kun ho gi to amaal bhi mayoos kun hon gey ...... iss liye hamein kam sey kam iss tarhaN key shubahaat mey nahi perhna chahiye key "kya ham azaad hein ??" ....meyrey nazdeek ye sara sar na shukri hai.

      Ab aatey hein tumharey Q ki taraf ki yani tum ney aeysa kyun poocha ya hum ab aeysa sochney lagey heiN. Hamari hakoomat key attitude ki waja sey, sab ussey bush ka kat putli samjtey hein. leykin hakoomateiN banata kaun hai ? Awaam na? to phir pichley 8 saaloN seys koi protest nahi hua hai kisi bhi cheez key against (pakistan mey khas ker jo protests huye hein, un ko mey protest nahi kahun gi kyun key un mey sirf toR phoR hoti hai aur bas....aur in saari ToR phoR sey protest ka k oi link nahi hota hai) ....iss ki waiitingeyes ney bohot achi missal di hai .... baat sari ye hai key hameiN jaagney ki zaroorat hai aur ye koi aik fair tale nahi hai key shehzada (leader) ay ga aur soi hui shehzadi (awaam) ko jaga dey ga.... ye aik jeetey jaagtey insaano ka , aik jeeta jagta mulk hai....motivations hamein kisi sey nahi milti haiN ...motivations sirf insaan key ander sey hi hoti hai ......iss ki mey aik missal dun gi aap ko
      Motivation hoti kya hai---aik baar yun hua key aik banda aik chinese scholar key paas gaya aur us sey motivation key baarey mey poocha

      chinese scholar ney kaha key ye aap key ander hai -----ye aap ko kisi sey bhi nahi milti hai yani key source of motivation koi bhi nahi hai balkey aap khudi hain

      wo banda hairaan hua aur us ney kaha show me an example

      chinese scholar ney ussey aik barhey tub mey paani laaney ko kaha jab wo paani ley aya to chinese ney us bandey key sar ko paani mey dabo diya aur ussey daboy rakha

      ab pehley us bandey ney socha key shayad ye aik mazaaq hai leykin jaisey hi deyr hoti ja rahi thi key ussey saans leyney mey zahir hai mushkil hui to us ney pehley thora sa apney sar ko hilaya ---jab kuch nahi hua to us ney zaur sey hilaya------phir bhi kuch nahi to thora aur zaur sey--------aur akhir kaar aik jhatkey sey poori taqat key sath us ney apna sar bahar nikaal liya



      is per chinese scholar bola ...now u see motivation aap key ander hai bas thora hilney julney ki deyr hoti ha i


      issi tarhaN barish .. ham kehtey hien na key hamein aik leader ki zaroorat hai, bilkul hai leykin why inteyzaar?? wo leader koi Pluto sey to nahi ay ga ...wo ham mey sey hi ho ga to phir inteyzaar ki bajay ham khud kyun nahi leader qualtities apney ander paida kertey hein ??? why dont we think of anything adding good to this country?

      Ham log khud hi responsible heiN, ham khud theek ho jayeiN na to leader bhi aa jay ga aur mulk bhi sahih ho jay ga .... inshAllah ....

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      Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

      yeh ham bar bar musharraf ko kioon ilzam de rahe hain. tareekh gawah hai hamnain aajtak pakistan main aik bhi azad hukmaran nahin daikha jisnain sache dil se pakistan ki khidmat ki ho. 1948 main jis din liaqat ali khan ko liaqat bagh main sab logon ke samnain goli mari gai usi din hamara pakistan bhi halak ho giya tha. ab ham kis umid par baithai hain, yahan to sare ka sara awa hi bigra howa hai. qasoor america ka ya british ka nahin hamara apna hai.

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      Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

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      W/Salam Me Here
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      Azad....Kabhi ham azad thay....phir jab angraiz aaya bare sagheer main tu hamare kuch janbaz aur sachay logon nay azadi k saath us ka muqabila kia ... laikin kuch bay Eaman Logon Like Meer Jafar jaise logon ki wajha say ham un ki ghulami main chalay gay .... laikin ham apne un mujhadon ka diya hoowa wo sabaq k shair ki aik din ki zindagey Geedar ki so sala zindagey say behtar hoti hai bhool gay...aur us ko dohranay ki koshish hi nahien kee aur aahista aahista ham logon na sirf Muashi Ghulam bal k Zehni ghulam bantay gay....Phir us k baad aik waqt aaya k kuch log jinhain is qom say mohabat thee apne deen say mohabat kertay thay aur unhon nay wo sabaq yaad kiya tha jo k ham say pehle kamyab aur azad logon nay hamain diya tha ... unhon nay apni qom ko jhanjora aur us ko wo sabaq yaad dilaya......unhon ne qurbaniyan deen apna mal apni jaan hata k apni izatain bhi gunwaien aur us k baad angraiz aur hindu dono say azadi hasil ker lee laikin afsos k wo chand log bhi ziyada dair tak hamare beech main na reh sakay aur un ko itna moqa na mil saka k wo in azad logon k liey kuch ker sakain ya un ko bta sakain k azadi tu tum nay hasi ker lee hai ab tum nay is azadi ko istamal kaisay kerna hai.....us k bad aik k baad doosra jo bhi aata gya us ko shayad azadi k mafhooom ka pata nahein tha aur is tarha ham logon nay muashrati tour per tu azadi hasil ker lee laikin zehni tour per abi tak un k ghulam hain...pehle britishars k thay ab america k hain......aur ab hamari halat us lateefay jaisee hai..

      Aik Badshah Slamat is wajha say pareshan thay k un ki Awam kuch bolti na thee chahay wo acha kam kerain ya bura...wo apni awam k raey janina chatay thay apne baray main tu unhon city k andar anay walay rastay per pehra laga diya k jo mazdoor aaey us ki checking kero is tarha logon ko dushwari hoee tu badsha nay socha k shayad ab log shikayat lay ker aaien gay..laikin koee nahien aaya..tu unhon nay order diya k in logon ko Murgha Bna ker Pul k ooper say guzara jaey logon nay murga ban k gu8zarna shuroo ker diya...laikin phir bhi koee na aaya ... phir King nay her banday ko 10 jootay bhi saath lagwanay shuroo ker diey laikin ab bhi koee nanhein bola yeh jootay barha k 20 ho gay tab bhi koee nahien bola tu king nay aik jalsa kia aur awam say poocha k aap ko koee takleef tu nahi hai na tu un main say aik shakhs utha aur bola Badsha Salamat aur tu koee takleef nahien hai bas jootay marne walon ki tadad agar barha dain tu bari mehrbani ho gee k ham apni mazdoori say late ho jatay hain...

      Tu ab hamara bhi wo hi haal hai

      Apk views ka intizar rahy ga.

      ham apni buari ko accept tu kertay hain laikin un ko chorne ki koshish nahein kertay aur yahi hamara masla hai

      Insha Allah hain Ummid ka daman nahien chorna chahiey...yeh andhai Insha Allah zaroor chotay ga....ab lagta hai k ham logon nay aahista aahista phir say jagna shurooker diya hai ... subha honay wali hai ...InshaAllah Pakistan Jis maqsad k liey liya gya tha wo zaroor poora ho ga....bas agar ham kuch nahien ker sakay tu kam az kam apni Next nasal ko tayar ker dain k wo kuch ker dikhain......hamari tayari is lihaz say nahien thee laikin ham un ko tayar ker saktay hain....aur agar ham un k darmiyan hooway tu ham bhi un k saath hoon gay..Insha AllahINSHALLAH........tamaam kamzooryaan door kr k........!

      KHUSH RAHYYE
      Pakistan Zinda Baad.......!

      Pakistan painda Baad

      Yasir Bhai apny buhat accha or comprehensive reply kiya.....
      very nice......

      itni summerize form mai apny humin history bhi bata di or haal bhi....
      yaani ghalat Leadership hi iski qasoorwaar hai jo aj hum Zehni taur pr azad nahi ho pae......as well as u ve raised the point k "ab hum jaag rahy hain" to mujeh lgta hai k waqai ab hum baidaar ho rahy hain....q k leaders ki policies ab hum pr khul rahi hain 15 yrs back we were sleeping.....koi ik road bhi banwa deta tha to hum samajhty thy k is se behter koi nahi chahy us road ki aar mai wo jo merzi krta.....jitna bhi mulk ko loot'ta......

      per ab hum pr asleehat khul rahi hai wo kehty hain na......subah ka bhoola sham ko ae to ushy bhoola nahi kehty.....bus ALLAH TAALA humin ab sach mai jaga dy apny MADHAB k lye as well as apni country k lye AMEEN!

      n nice joke as well
      hum America k aagy waqai aise hain

      KHUSH RAHYYE HAMESHA
      or apny views share krty rakhyye!

      Pakistan Zinda Baad Painda Baad!

      WASALAM!

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      Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

      Quote Originally Posted by aabi2cool View Post
      w/salam dear sister


      birthday ka maqsad....?
      jab birth day ka maqsad serf jashan manana hi hay to phir aap ka dosra sawal baymani hojata hy yani k kaya hum waqe hi azad hain aur moaf kijiye ga mujhy to aap apny sawalat main khud kafi uljhi hui lag rahi hain yani aap ye teh hi naheen kar par rahi k aap ka is thred ko lagany ka maqsad kaya hy?


      jab abhi ye teh hi naheen hua k hum azad hain ya naheen ya phir hum ny ankheen meechi hui hain to aap ki oper wali yani jasan ko maqsad banay wali baat che mani darad.? yani wo baat bilkul fazool hojati hy .


      hum apny views zaroor dain gay pehly aap apna nuqta e nazar wazy kareen k aap kis mozu par guftgu chati hain..?
      khush rahiye

      Assalam o Alikum Respected Brother....!

      Mere basically 2 ques thy jin pr main ap sab k views jan'na chahti thi/hoon.

      1stly ye k hum 14th AUG ko MASHALLAH Paki ka Birthday celebrate krty hain ......matlab jashan manaty hain is baat ka k humin ik AZAD MULK naseeb hoa.

      2ndly i raised the ques......k Birthday ka maqsad beshak yahi hai k hum "AZADI KA JASHAN" manaty hain.........to kiya ap log samajhty hain k hum "WAQAI AZAD HAIN?" ya ye sirf barae naam jashan hai,

      mere sawalat apas mai contradictionary hain main khud in mai nahi uljhi or ab to i ve xplained hopefully apko ab koi masla nahi ho ga

      KHUSH RAHIN
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      Re: DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

      Quote Originally Posted by hamzad View Post
      haan ham mush dor se pehle bhi ghulam hi the ham ne america ke kehne par taliban ko mujahideen karar de kar russia ke khilaf jung lari or aaj bhi amrica ke kehne par unhi taliban ko jo kal tak mujahid the aaj dehshat gard karar de dia or bush ki so called war against terror me us ke front line itehadi ban gae (ager apni aik azaad soch hoti to aik baar to sochte k kal jin ko mujahid kehte the aaj kis mooh se unhi ko dehshat gard keh rahe hen serf is leay k america keh raha he)lekin aik baat zarur he k jis tarah musharaf ke dor me amrica ko khul kar game karne ka moka mila he us se pehle esa nahi tha.is leay ham keh sakte hen k ager ghulami me koi kasar reh gai thi to wo mr musharaf ne puri kar di
      is it Mujahideen ko Talibaan qarar diya???

      Rite....i got u,yani is ghulaami mai ik taweel arsa lga hai humin.
      log sanwarny k lye waqt or sadyaan lgaty hain or humny bigarny mai hi kitni sadyan or waqt khoo diya....anyhow bus ab aagy berhna hi hamara maqsad hona chahye per apna MADHAB ko thaam kr.

      u see hum jitna ISLAM se door hooty gae utna hi tabahi ki janib berhty gae.
      ALLAH TAALA HUMIN APNI QURBAT DE OR HIDAYAT BHI AMEEN!

      KHUSH RAHYYE SIS..!

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      Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

      bloo sis n arifkarim Bhai.......Thx 4 sharing ur views.
      i ll catch u ppl soon INSHALLAH

      KHUSH RAHYYE HAMESHA!

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      Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

      Quote Originally Posted by Shaim View Post
      Assalam o Alikum Peghamians!

      Hope U ll B Fine n Happy INSHALLAH!

      Jesa k ap sab jaanty hain k AUGUST ka Mahina start ho chuka hai n off course Paki's Birthday iz somehow very near....MASHALLAH.....!

      per humin is birthday k "MAQSAD" per baat krna hai.....
      or Birthday ka "MAQSAD" off course......."JASHN-E-AZADI" hai

      Viewers.......apny views hamary sath share kijiye k kiya hum WAQAI Azad hain......ya hum ne apni ankhin meechi hoi hain sacchae se?

      Apk views ka intizar rahy ga.
      ik baat kehna chahoon gi.......ager hum mai koi burai hai to jab tak hum usko accept nahi ker lety uska cure mushkil hai is lye tamaam +ve n -ve points k sath baat kijiye ga.

      Humin Pakistan ko Aagy ley kr jana hai........buhat aagy INSHALLAH........tamaam kamzooryaan door kr k........!

      KHUSH RAHYYE
      Pakistan Zinda Baad.......!
      w/alaikum asalam

      g ham :masha say geographically azaad hain, mentally abhi tak ghulami kar'rahay hain.

      aap nay kaha kamzoariyaa'n...pehlay hamain *accept* aur *admit* karna parhay ga k ye kamzoarian HAIN aur ye find out karna parhay ga k kaun kaun si hain...phir InshAllah sab kuch jald theek hojaye ga, phir ham waqaiye azaad hongay

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      ak1:" class="inlineimg" />HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY to all of you.mashAllah we are an independant nation.hum azzad hain.but nowadays i feel very very bad because some negative forces are threatening our independance.i am from pindi/islamabad it was always considered a peaceful and quiet city.see how they are ruining it.as for politics i dont know much but i feel really confused as things never looked as bad as they are now.i no longer know who is sincere and who is not.i think only and only ordinary people are sincere to pakistan and not the poiliticians as we all live and socailaise happily with people of every cast and every religion & every language,but this politics has divided us in several groups.and young blood is shed all over the country due to this politics.and the outcome is nothing.

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      HAPPY INDEPENDANCE DAY to all of the peoples of Pakistan. May Live Long Pakistan.

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      Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

      As'kum... haan ye special day to hai... lekin yaro... swaal waqee bohat ehamm hai k kya hum azaad hain???? kaisee aazadi?? cant say anything about it.... buss... dua he kar saktay hain... k
      "Ay Allah Hum ko Acha Rahnuma...Achi Qyadat Naseeb Farma..."
      Aameen

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      Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

      AZADI
      phle to ye samjhna zarori hae ke azadi hae kiya
      60 salon main ham ne kiya hansil kiya ham log beshak azad nazar ate hain magar mhkom hain ahm unn ledronke jo ham par azab ban ke ajate hain oe is main kisi or ka kasor nahi hota ye hamari hio galti hoti hae ke ham azmaye hoye ko kion ajmate hain azad sirf kisi hise ko azad kar walene ka nam nahi hae.
      1183 MAIN JAB SULATAN SALHAOWDIN AYUBI [/QUOTE]NABSIBA KE MAKAM PAR KHEMA ZAN THA TO APNE SALARON SE AJ KI HAQIQAT KE DAOR KI BATIN KAR RHA THA;;;;;
      ``ISLAM par jo bhi daor aye ga who ALLAH ke sipahi ka daor ho ga''
      SULTAN NE KHA `` jab tak ISLAM zinda he kufar ISLAM ke dushman hi rahe gain aj hamare sallaron ke dilon jaho hasmat ki jo khawahis payda ho gai hae who kisi bhi waqat ISALAM ko le dobye ga. mujhe nazar arha hae ke ISALAM zinda rahe ga magar us ser ki trha zinda rahe ga jis ko sudha liya gaya ho ga or us ko faramosh kara diya gaya ho ke who badsha hae ye ser bakriyon se bhi darta rahe ga musalman kufar ki anglion par nachin ge ALLAH ka sipahi maojod ho ho ga magar us ke hanth main talwar nahi ho ho gi agar talwar ho gi to who kisi salebi ki dee hovi ho gi jisye who niyam se nikalne ke liye selebi se izazat le ga...................... to dosto ketni sachi batin ki thi sultan salaowdin ayubi ne ham jab apne etraf main nazar dalte hain to ye hi sab kuch nazar ata hae..;;;;

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      Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

      abhi tak to seenay par aik chhota pakistani parcham lagakar office main betha hoon haan magar shaam mian Pakistani embassy jaaon ga wahan par jashn-e-azadi kay kafi saray programs hain, woh attend karoon ga.

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      Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

      Walaykum Assalam our yaom-e-Azadi Mubarak ho Ap sabko our on logo ko jo Pegham sy kuch na kuch wasta rakta hay.Bohot housh huwa apka Massege padkar kioki koi to hay jo Pakistan my reh kar bi humy yad karty hy jo humy janty tak nahi pir bi is hushi k muqay par itna kuch lik kar bayj diya.
      Darasal may dubai may hoo qareeban ak sal hochuka hay Pakistan sy aya huay.

      Lakin jistarah Pakistan k halat banty jarahy hay to man nahi karraha kih Pakistan aye kal on logo ki Jishn ti jin ki hamasha huwa karti ti yane on SIYASATDANO ki jo apny awam ky Khoon sy rangy hatoon sy Parcham chadaty ty our kal myny bi TV par dhykha o log kitny khoush ty jo sirf apny liye samajty hy dosro ki sirf bagawat samajty hay our apni Gaddari ko mulk ki mohabbat ka nam dyty hay our sirf apny siyasat ka rang dekhaty hay. koi siyasat dan aj tak kisi bi dhamakhy my nahi mara sirf Ghareeb our bygunah log mary jaty hay our ye har koi samajta hay kih waja kiya hay kih is tarah hota hay. Bas har jaga par awam ko ruswah our badnam karty hay koi aty hay midiya par to bas yahi farmaty hay kih bas SADAR MUSHARRAF SAB har koi oska wafadar kutta sabit karna chahty hay kioki onko panch waqt ka khana sirf Musharaf k ghar sy milta hay agar ye na kahy to on ka kon banyga humdard. our dosri taraf musharaf ko har waqt sirf apni Wardi ka apni Eqtedar ka our apny Dhanday ka fikar hota hay our ye sary siyasatdan hum sy betar janty hay chahy o musharraf ka koi wafadar o ho ya koi oska bilmukabi ho.

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      Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

      Quote Originally Posted by bloo View Post
      walaikum Salam Me here!

      Ham log waqai Alhumdulilah Azad hein aur hameiN iss per Allah T''ala ka bohot shukar ada kerna chahiye. wo iss liye key aaj bhi ham dunya key bohot saarey mulkoN sey behtar haiN, kam sey kam hamari aik shanakht to hai aur yahi shaknakht hamari Azadi ki daleel hai.Kehtey hein key mayoosi kufr hai kyun key mayoosi sirf andheroN mey ley jati hai.Hamari soch ka hamarey amaal key saht aik gehra link hota hai, agar soch hi mayoos kun ho gi to amaal bhi mayoos kun hon gey ...... iss liye hamein kam sey kam iss tarhaN key shubahaat mey nahi perhna chahiye key "kya ham azaad hein ??" ....meyrey nazdeek ye sara sar na shukri hai.

      Ab aatey hein tumharey Q ki taraf ki yani tum ney aeysa kyun poocha ya hum ab aeysa sochney lagey heiN. Hamari hakoomat key attitude ki waja sey, sab ussey bush ka kat putli samjtey hein. leykin hakoomateiN banata kaun hai ? Awaam na? to phir pichley 8 saaloN seys koi protest nahi hua hai kisi bhi cheez key against (pakistan mey khas ker jo protests huye hein, un ko mey protest nahi kahun gi kyun key un mey sirf toR phoR hoti hai aur bas....aur in saari ToR phoR sey protest ka k oi link nahi hota hai) ....iss ki waiitingeyes ney bohot achi missal di hai .... baat sari ye hai key hameiN jaagney ki zaroorat hai aur ye koi aik fair tale nahi hai key shehzada (leader) ay ga aur soi hui shehzadi (awaam) ko jaga dey ga.... ye aik jeetey jaagtey insaano ka , aik jeeta jagta mulk hai....motivations hamein kisi sey nahi milti haiN ...motivations sirf insaan key ander sey hi hoti hai ......iss ki mey aik missal dun gi aap ko


      issi tarhaN barish .. ham kehtey hien na key hamein aik leader ki zaroorat hai, bilkul hai leykin why inteyzaar?? wo leader koi Pluto sey to nahi ay ga ...wo ham mey sey hi ho ga to phir inteyzaar ki bajay ham khud kyun nahi leader qualtities apney ander paida kertey hein ??? why dont we think of anything adding good to this country?

      Ham log khud hi responsible heiN, ham khud theek ho jayeiN na to leader bhi aa jay ga aur mulk bhi sahih ho jay ga .... inshAllah ....

      Very Brilliant Thoughts......

      i agree wid u k humin na shukri nahi kerni chahye.....
      pr ye soch meri nahi ab Paki k taqreeban hr person ki ho gae hai uski wajah yahi hai k humin sahee leadership nahi mil rahi hai

      beshak leader hum mai hi koi ho ga.......pr sis itna easy nahi hai k wo leader yuun hi samny a jae
      q k kise acchy leader ko ye log aany nahi dety hain
      jo person 8 saal se hum pr musallat hai wo 8 saal pehly bhi khud hi musallat ho gya tha or ab tamaam tarr koshishon k bawajood uska uterny ka koi irada nahi

      have u seen.......jinhy mulk badar kiya gya tha aj SEAT n UNIFORM k lye un se bhi guft o shaneed ki ja rahi hai.

      he is alone now.......even Army ki bhi majority unky khilaaf hai
      or unhi ki wajah se.........we ppl r suffering or jo identity humny pae thi wo hum kho rahy hain.......ap kabhi Paki culture ko dekhin u ll see k wo pehly wali baat hi nahi

      kuch probs hum mai bhi hain...........hum bhi apni identity khony mai peechy nahi hain hum bhi buhat kuch wo krty hain jinhy krny se pehly ik baar humin yaad kr lena chahye k Pakistan Zinda Baad" k naaron se aagy bhi hamara koi farz hai

      i pay respect 2 ur +ve thoughts
      Buhat Khush Rahin

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      yeh ham bar bar musharraf ko kioon ilzam de rahe hain. tareekh gawah hai hamnain aajtak pakistan main aik bhi azad hukmaran nahin daikha jisnain sache dil se pakistan ki khidmat ki ho. 1948 main jis din liaqat ali khan ko liaqat bagh main sab logon ke samnain goli mari gai usi din hamara pakistan bhi halak ho giya tha. ab ham kis umid par baithai hain, yahan to sare ka sara awa hi bigra howa hai. qasoor america ka ya british ka nahin hamara apna hai.

      dekhin hum Mush ko is lye qasoor waar tehraty hain k inho ne wo kiya jo tareekh mai kabhi nahi hoa.

      pichly siyasatdaan jese bhi thy.......unho ne ISLAM pr atleast attack nahi kiya tha......or jab apna RELEGION mehfooz na ho to zahir hai phir kis cheez k hum azad......pr jese bloo ne kaha.....humin hi struggle krna hai.......shaid struggle to hum kr rahy hain pr humin zara ziada struggle ki zaroorat hai

      Mush daur mai buhat c cheezin buhat ghalt hoi hain.........thatz y we blame him......or main unky sath khud ko bhi blame krti hoon q k ager unho ne kuch nahi kiya to maine kiya kiyaa hai?

      Anyhow thx 4 ur comments
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      Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

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      w/alaikum asalam

      g ham :masha say geographically azaad hain, mentally abhi tak ghulami kar'rahay hain.

      aap nay kaha kamzoariyaa'n...pehlay hamain *accept* aur *admit* karna parhay ga k ye kamzoarian HAIN aur ye find out karna parhay ga k kaun kaun si hain...phir InshAllah sab kuch jald theek hojaye ga, phir ham waqaiye azaad hongay

      yes or isky lye humin critically apni apni personality kio judge krna hai........
      i always used to say......k cheez kharab ho to usko accept karo then usko dhoondo n sort out karo bajae isky k hum mai to koi masla nahi n we r perfect

      ye ik ghalt sooch hai jo yakeenan hum mai se nikal jani chahye

      Shukerya apk nazaryat ka
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      Quote Originally Posted by air marshal View Post
      HAPPY INDEPENDANCE DAY to all of the peoples of Pakistan. May Live Long Pakistan.

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      HAPPY INDEPNDENCE DAY 2 U TOO

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      Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

      Quote Originally Posted by seeker View Post
      As'kum... haan ye special day to hai... lekin yaro... swaal waqee bohat ehamm hai k kya hum azaad hain???? kaisee aazadi?? cant say anything about it.... buss... dua he kar saktay hain... k
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      Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

      Yeh bara nazik topic hai jis ke peechay kai awamil hain jo aik doosray se juray huay hain.Ham ne ghulami se to azadi hasil kar li laikin hamari soch abhi tak azaad nahin ho saki.Soch is liyay azad nahi hui kiyunke hamaray muashi halaat darust nahin hain,muashi halaat is liyay darust nahin hain ke hakoomatain darust policies nahin banati hain.Hakoomatain darust policies is liyay nahin banati hain ke awam unka aihtisaab nahin karti hain.Awam is liyay aihtisaab nahin karti kiyunke min hais-ul-qoum ham khud gharz hain,agar hamari pasand ki hukoomat hai to ham usay har kaam ki khulli chutti daitay hain aur agar is ke baraks hai to ham tanqeed baray tanqeed kartay hain so hamari raye ki value nahin rahi hai.
      Agar ham zindagi ke har maidaan main khud gharzi chor dain,aur qana'at ke islami usool per amal paira hoon to ham apnay mahdood wasail main survive karain gay jis se corruption khatam hogi,corruption khatam honay se economy mazboot hogi aur mazboot economy hamain azaad aur bawaqar zindagi de gi.

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