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Aanchal
28th October 2007, 07:30
Assalamalikum
jesa kay ham nay aik debate announce ki hovi hai ,woh ham abhi say shuru kar kar rehye hian ..hamara topic hai

"kia khawateen ko mulazamat karni chaye ?"

han ya na jo bhi jawaab hoo us pay teams nay apnay comments deenay hian ...
hamri 2 teams hain ..

Team A
Aanchal
jia
shakh e tamana
super cop


Team B
shaim
gul
hamzad

Rules:
aik aik hafta yeh topics chalian gay...(aik hafta bad bhi koi continue karna chaye to kar sakta hai lekan woh competition main shamil nahi hoo ga)...aaj Sunday hai to Next Sunday tak is ka end hoo ga ..

Judge koi nahi hai is debate ka ...debate kay end main ham fourm kay baki members ko jinhoo nay participate nahi kia unhay invite karian gay kay woh donoo teams kay baray main batye kis nay kitnay achay points likhye hain..

larai jhugra , fazool behas say parheez karian , zateyaat pay baat karnay say guraizz karian

zarori nahi aik sath hi apni baat likhian aik aik point kar kay bhi apni baat likh saktay hian ....aik dosray ki posts pay reply kar sakti hian donoo teams lekan larai jhurhray say door rehian :)

(jinhoo nay participate karnay ko kaha tha aaj kay din woh bata daian to unhay team main shamil kar dia jaye ga warna pher nahi ...or baki kisi member allowed nahi hai kay debate kay darmeyan posting karian ...debate kay end main baki members apni baat kar saktay hian ..
i think sab kuch clear hai to ham apni debate abhi say shuru kartay hian :D:

Aanchal
28th October 2007, 07:34
Team A ki taraf say main apni debate start karti houn
Bismillah kar kay baat shuru kartay hian :D:

hamara topic hai kia khawateen ko mulazamat karni chaye ? to sab say pehlay humye yeh deekhna chaye kay jo mulazamat ki jati hai us kay kia hasil hota hai ? pesay or apni taleem ka acha istamal ....na pesay kamnay main kio boorai hai na taleem kay istamaal main to pher khawateen jobs kio nahi kar sakti ?:)

Gul
28th October 2007, 07:53
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Mein As A MEMBER OF TEAM B ....iss debate ko aagay barhaati hoon!

start tu kher jab aap favor mein hoon tu always easy hota hai
:) aap nay do reasons dee khawateen k job karnay ki...
Ek earn karna ,aur second Taleem ka usage ...
hum apni zarooriyat ko mehdood agar rakhein ..fazooliyat se bachein, kafayat shoaari se kaam lein tu hum khwateen ko job ki koi zaroorat nahi...
Rahii..taaleem ka behtareen istemal apnay bachoun ki parvarish hai. kion k sab se pehla madresa( school) Maan ki GOUD( lap) yani ghar hota hai
.ya agar aap iss ko aur b masbat aur mofeed karna chahti hain
tu Islaahi turr per kaam kijay charity bases per bachoun parha-iyay....
ya phir aisi khwateen tak elm ki roshni puhancha-ein ..jo beychaari kisi wajh se nahi parh sakein...Os sk li-ay JOB karnay ki Qata`an zaroorat nahi .! :)

Aanchal
28th October 2007, 08:40
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:) aap nay do reasons dee khawateen k job karnay ki...
Ek earn karna ,aur second Taleem ka usage ...
hum apni zarooriyat ko mehdood agar rakhein ..
aaj ka door itna fast hoo chuka hai insaan aap apni kitni zarortian mehood rekh sakti hian ?:)fazooliyat se bachein, kafayat shoaari se kaam lein tu hum khwateen ko job ki koi zaroorat nahi...
jo jobs karti hain woh khawateen bhi kefayatshurai say kaam kar sakti hain :D:

Rahii..taaleem ka behtareen istemal apnay bachoun ki parvarish hai. kion k sab se pehla madresa( school) Maan ki GOUD( lap) yani ghar hota hai

ji sahi ..lekan kia jo khawateen jobs karti hain woh achi maaian sabit nahi hoti ?main nay aksar aurtian aisi deekhi hain jo jobs or ghar donoo ki sahi sanbhaal rahi hian ....bachoun ko bhi achi tarebat day rahi hain ...is leye mere khayal main to yeh sahi nahi lagta kay jobs na karnay wali khawateen hi bachoun ki achi parwrish kar sakti hai ...ya agar aap iss ko aur b masbat aur mofeed karna chahti hain
tu Islaahi turr per kaam kijay charity bases per bachoun parha-iyay....
ya phir aisi khwateen tak elm ki roshni puhancha-ein ..jo beychaari kisi wajh se nahi parh sakein...Os sk li-ay JOB karnay ki Qata`an zaroorat nahi .! :)

yeh sab bhi to jobs main shumar hota hai na ?:D:

,,

AbgeenA
28th October 2007, 14:22
orat ka asal mukam us ka ghar he jahan us ko bohat sara waqt dena hota he,bachon ki tarbeyat karna hoti he or ye aik full time job he is ke elawa phir mazeed kisi job ki kia zarurat he?:donno:ager wo ghar ko bhi dekhe or job bhi kare to wo phir double kaam kare gi or natija thakawat or zehni tension ho ga jo us ke ghar or bachon par bure asraat muratab kare ga.aj ke doar me insan me bardasht kam ho chuki he is leay k insan ne khud ko bilawaja hi dher saer bakheron me masroof kar lia he.purane waqton me khwateen gharon par rehne ko tarjeeh dia karti thein to ghar pursakoon raha karte the jab ke aaj dekh lein kese asaani se ghar toot jate hen.

jia
28th October 2007, 14:37
orat ka asal mukam us ka ghar he jahan us ko bohat sara waqt dena hota he,bachon ki tarbeyat karna hoti he or ye aik full time job he is ke elawa phir mazeed kisi job ki kia zarurat he?:donno:ager wo ghar ko bhi dekhe or job bhi kare to wo phir double kaam kare gi or natija thakawat or zehni tension ho ga jo us ke ghar or bachon par bure asraat muratab kare ga.aj ke doar me insan me bardasht kam ho chuki he is leay k insan ne khud ko bilawaja hi dher saer bakheron me masroof kar lia he.purane waqton me khwateen gharon par rehne ko tarjeeh dia karti thein to ghar pursakoon raha karte the jab ke aaj dekh lein kese asaani se ghar toot jate hen.
app nay bikul theek kaha hay laikin agr usi ghar main kuch khany ko na hoa or koi or kmany wala bhi na hoa to kia aurat moon daikhti rhay ge k koi aa'ay or mujhy kmaa kr day....mery khiyal say aurat ko zindagi k hr shobay main mharat hasil honie cha'he'ay....taan k woh hr mushkil ka samnaa ba'koobi kr saky or usay kisi ka mohtaaj na hona pary....agr koi khwaateen job kr bhi laiti hain to is main koi problem nahi hay.... job krna dossroon k aagy haath phailany say behtr hay:)
or agr koi auat job krti hay to is ka mtlb yeh nahi k woh apny bachoon ko nahi sanbhal skay ge...ajj kal k moashry main jo khwateen job krti hain woh poarni khwateen ke nisbat ziyada illam rakhti hain..or apni knowledge k hisaab say woh apny bachoon ke achi parwrish bhi kr sakti hain or job bhi kr sakti hain:)

AbgeenA
28th October 2007, 14:45
app nay bikul theek kaha hay laikin agr usi ghar main kuch khany ko na hoa or koi or kmany wala bhi na hoa to kia aurat moon daikhti rhay ge k koi aa'ay or mujhy kmaa kr day....mery khiyal say aurat ko zindagi k hr shobay main mharat hasil honie cha'he'ay....taan k woh hr mushkil ka samnaa ba'koobi kr saky or usay kisi ka mohtaaj na hona pary....agr koi khwaateen job kr bhi laiti hain to is main koi problem nahi hay.... job krna dossroon k aagy haath phailany say behtr hay:)
or agr koi auat job krti hay to is ka mtlb yeh nahi k woh apny bachoon ko nahi sanbhal skay ge...ajj kal k moashry main jo khwateen job krti hain woh poarni khwateen ke nisbat ziyada illam rakhti hain..or apni knowledge k hisaab say woh apny bachoon ke achi parwrish bhi kr sakti hain or job bhi kr sakti hain:)
bilkul majburi ki halat me job zarur karni chaey lekin me ne yahan un khawateen ki baat ki he to mehez shok me ya wo chunke parhi likhi hen to job kar leti hen.un ke bare me likha he.:)
Anchal ab batao yahan ham kia karen???:blush:me ne to pehle bhi yehi kaha tha ka bila zarurat job nahi karni chaey ab jahan zarurat ko samne rakh kar behes ki jaey gi to ham team A me shamil ho jaen ge na:tauba

jia
28th October 2007, 14:48
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Mein As A MEMBER OF TEAM B ....iss debate ko aagay barhaati hoon!

start tu kher jab aap favor mein hoon tu always easy hota hai
:) aap nay do reasons dee khawateen k job karnay ki...
Ek earn karna ,aur second Taleem ka usage ...
hum apni zarooriyat ko mehdood agar rakhein ..fazooliyat se bachein, kafayat shoaari se kaam lein tu hum khwateen ko job ki koi zaroorat nahi...
Rahii..taaleem ka behtareen istemal apnay bachoun ki parvarish hai. kion k sab se pehla madresa( school) Maan ki GOUD( lap) yani ghar hota hai
.ya agar aap iss ko aur b masbat aur mofeed karna chahti hain
tu Islaahi turr per kaam kijay charity bases per bachoun parha-iyay....
ya phir aisi khwateen tak elm ki roshni puhancha-ein ..jo beychaari kisi wajh se nahi parh sakein...Os sk li-ay JOB karnay ki Qata`an zaroorat nahi .! :)
App nay bhi biklkul theek kaha hay....laikin aik trf aap keh rahi hain k khwateen ko job nahi krni cha'he'ay or dussri trf app keh rahi hain islaahi turr pr kaam krna theek hay to main app ko btati chalo k jisay hum log job ka name day chukky hain usay dossry lafzoon main kaam krna he kaha jata hay...or jisa k app nay kaha k aisi aurtoon tk illam pohancha'ain jo k kisi wjah say parh nahi sakeen to isay dussry lafzoon main teaching kehty hain or yeh bhi job he hay:)
aik trf app keh rahi hain k job nahi krni cha'he'ay or dussri trf job k zraya bata rahi hain ?:cc:

jia
28th October 2007, 14:50
Main kahan hoon in teams mein? :blush::blush::blush:
Aap awaam ho app nay rules nahi parhy kia?:cc:

Aanchal
28th October 2007, 15:52
Main kahan hoon in teams mein? :blush::blush::blush:
:a stick:

aaj ki date main aap bata daian koon si team main jana chahtay hainto theek warna aaj ki date guzar gai to pher nahi a saktay :na:

yeh un loogoo kay leye hai jinhoo nay kahaa tha ham participate karian gay lekan confirm nahi kia tha .....
aik larki, raafi, masood, or jo bhi members hain jinhoo nay us thread main kaha tha ham participate karian gay woh abhi bata daian warna aaj ki date guzar gai to pher nahi a saktay ....or baki members abhi allow nahi hain :rose

jia
28th October 2007, 16:08
bilkul majburi ki halat me job zarur karni chaey lekin me ne yahan un khawateen ki baat ki he to mehez shok me ya wo chunke parhi likhi hen to job kar leti hen.un ke bare me likha he.:)
Anchal ab batao yahan ham kia karen???:blush:me ne to pehle bhi yehi kaha tha ka bila zarurat job nahi karni chaey ab jahan zarurat ko samne rakh kar behes ki jaey gi to ham team A me shamil ho jaen ge na:tauba
:taubaoh dearest mainy kaheen per bhi yeh nahi kaha k aurat ko zarorat k wqt he job krni cha'he'ay...mainy to kaha hay k usay hr wqt hr mushkil ka samna krnay k liay tiyar rehna cha'he'ay....or is ka mtlb yeh nahi k woh zarort k wqt he job kary bl k agr woh start say he job krti ho ge to zarorat k wqt usay mushkil nahi ho ge woh ba'aasani hr kaam kr lay ge....
or agr app kehti hain k zarorat k wqt he aurat ko job krni cha'he'ay to main is cheez k bhi against he hoon ....kion k jab aurat ko zarorat pary ge to woh aik dam say kis trhaan job talash kary ge phir usay kis trhaan handle kary ge yeh sab kaam bohat mushkil hoty hain..or zarorat k wqt to pehly he aurat mushkil main hoge to usi wqt is baat ke kia guarenty hay k usay job mill ja'ay ge?or agr mill bhi gai to woh aik dam say us job ko ba'khoobi kr pa'ay ge?

Aanchal
28th October 2007, 16:09
orat ka asal mukam us ka ghar he jahan us ko bohat sara waqt dena hota he,bachon ki tarbeyat karna hoti he or ye aik full time job he is ke elawa phir mazeed kisi job ki kia zarurat he?

beshak aurat ki pehli zimmadari ghar hai ....ab agar koi aurat ghar or bahir donoo ko sahi manage kar sakti hai to kio na karay job ?:)

:donno:ager wo ghar ko bhi dekhe or job bhi kare to wo phir double kaam kare gi or natija thakawat or zehni tension ho ga jo us ke ghar or bachon par bure asraat muratab kare ga.aj ke doar me insan me bardasht kam ho chuki he is leay k insan ne khud ko bilawaja hi dher saer bakheron me masroof kar lia he.

double kaam to nahi kar saktay is main Time Management zaida important hoti hai ...usay sahi say manage karna ata hai sab kuch to usay rokna bhi nahi chaye jobs say .....

hamri aik teacher the teaching bhi karti thein , bachoun ki bhi theek taraha say deekh bhaal karti thein ..khair bachaye ab baray hoo chukyethey lekan woh teaching shuru say karti a rahi thein jab bachay school janay ki age ki hovey tab say teaching start kar di ....bachoun kay ghar anay say pehlay khana waghera sab ready kar laiti ..ghar ka sara kaam khud karti thein kabhi kaam wali nahi reakhi ...kabhi bahir ka khana nahi kahaya kahana khud banati the humesha ....or husband kay kaam main bhi help karti the .......or achi khasi active aurat thein .....

isi hawalye say aik baat yeh hai kay jabaurtoun ki age bari a hoo jati hai , bachay baray hoo kay apni studies/jobs main lag jatay hian to woha urtian kia karian farigh ? pesa bhi hath main hoo to or zarorat na hoo job ki to pher kia karian ..jobs karian gee apna acha waqat guzaar sakti hain or apnay mulk ki taraqqi main bhi hath bata sakti hain ...bajye is kay kay woh parties main apna time guzarian :D:
purane waqton me khwateen gharon par rehne ko tarjeeh dia karti thein to ghar pursakoon raha karte the jab ke aaj dekh lein kese asaani se ghar toot jate hen.

poornay waqatoun main bhi aurtian kaam karti thein lekan gharoun main reh kay karti the usay job ka naam nahi dia jata tha ....ab vohi kaam bahir ja kay karnay lagi hain to usay job ka naam day kay is ki mukhalafat ki jati hai....aaj bhi aurtian gharoun main kaam kar rahi hain agar yehi bahir ja kay karian to mukhalafat aisa kio ?:donno: ....

aik aurat ko sirf apnay bachoun apnay ghar key leye nahi pooray mulk ki leye kaam karna chaye :)
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Aanchal
28th October 2007, 16:19
[QUOTE=jia;555001][B][I]....mery khiyal say aurat ko zindagi k hr shobay main mharat hasil honie cha'he'ay....taan k woh hr mushkil ka samnaa ba'koobi kr saky or usay kisi ka mohtaaj na hona pary..


[COLOR="Red"]sahi :thmbup: aksar loog yehi kehtay hian jab buhat zarorat hoo tab kaam kia jaye ..lekan mery nazdeek yehi hai kay aap pehlay hi say apnay aap ko set karoo ..takay bad main mushkil aye hi na ...
bad main kjab job karna chaaye gee to jobs us kay leye available houn gee ?:) itna fast zamana hai kisi bhi cheez key leye kafi hath paoun marnay partay hian ...bad main jo cheez usay chaye woh wesi mill jaye gee usay ?mazeed tension hoo gee usay job dhoundnay main bhi ...or ghar main reh reh kay aksar aurtian is taraf step utha bhi nahi sakti pher ...itna arsa ghar main guzaar kar bahir niklna koi asan nahi hota ...is taraha woh dosroun ki muhtaaj rehti hai koi aye to us ka kaam karwa day :)

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Aanchal
28th October 2007, 16:27
bilkul majburi ki halat me job zarur karni chaey lekin me ne yahan un khawateen ki baat ki he to mehez shok me ya wo chunke parhi likhi hen to job kar leti hen.un ke bare me likha he.:)
Anchal ab batao yahan ham kia karen???:blush:me ne to pehle bhi yehi kaha tha ka bila zarurat job nahi karni chaey ab jahan zarurat ko samne rakh kar behes ki jaey gi to ham team A me shamil ho jaen ge na:tauba

hamra point yeh hai kay agar pehlay hi say is taraf kushish ki jaye to majboori peda hi nahi hoo gee ...:D: ab majboori a gai to zahir hai karni hi parey gee jo kay hamra mozoo nahi hai yeh ...

or shok ki baat kahi hai aap nay to is main boorai kia hai kisi ko job ka shok hoo to ?:D: jesa kay main nay pehlay kaha kay pesa kamana , taleem ka istamal yeh sari cheezian hasil karnay ka haq to aurat ko bhi hona chaye ...or shok hai to tab bhi koi boorai nahi ...

deekhian aik aurat ghar main reh kay kaam kaaj karti hai bachoun kideekh bhaal karti hai ..or bakis ara waqat tv, parties,or shopping in cheezoun main guzar daiti hai .....or dosri aurat ghar/bachoun kay bas apna waqat jobs main guzartyi hai to kia boorai hai ?

aurtoun ki zindagi may bhi stages hotay hian ...parhai kay bad shadi say pehlay kafi waqat hota hai us waqat bhi job kar sakti hain ...us waqat kuch khas zimmdarian bhi nahi hoti ..

continue .....:D:

Gul
28th October 2007, 17:57
aaj ka door itna fast hoo chuka hai insaan aap apni kitni zarortian mehood rekh sakti hian ? :D:

Sweet definitions :) ...
anyway ....sab se pehlay I just want to know k rules mein Quote karnay se koi problem tu nahi agar aisa hai tu ....Plz do tell me ..RIGHT!

anyway ... :) hum har cheez mein time ko blame kartay hein k waqt hee aisa aa giya hai ....tu dear zaroortein tu har durr mein kahin na kahin kisi na kisi soorat moojood rahein, Har zamany mein oss k mutabiq zarooratoon k sawal othay ...magar hamari khawateen nay apnay aap ko oss se roka ..aur they lived happy life..hum kis tarah mehdood kar sakti hein apni zarooratoun ko yeh hum khud hee apnay ehtesaab karein tu jaan sakti hein ..:) yeh ek individual ko theek honay ki zaroorat hai ...and u know that k
ek fard se millat banti hai ...:) *har fard hai millat k muqaddar ka sitara*




jo jobs karti hain woh khawateen bhi kefayatshurai say kaam kar sakti hain :D:


Jee sahi kaha aap nay k wo kafayat-shoaari nahi kanjoosi k has tak ho jaati hein magar sirf oss money k liyay jo wo earn karti hein ...hubby ki kamaai ko be dregh kharch karti hein ....ya kuch adverse situations b create ho jaati hein ,,jo mein next posts mein yaqeenan quote karoon gee :)



ji sahi ..lekan kia jo khawateen jobs karti hain woh achi maaian sabit nahi hoti ?main nay aksar aurtian aisi deekhi hain jo jobs or ghar donoo ki sahi sanbhaal rahi hian ....bachoun ko bhi achi tarebat day rahi hain ...is leye mere khayal main to yeh sahi nahi lagta kay jobs na karnay wali khawateen hi bachoun ki achi parwrish kar sakti hai ...


Maan hona ....maan ki tarah hona mein bihat farq hai ...beshak maan apnay jazbaat apnay ehsasat ko kabhi b peechay nahi chorti chahay wo ek ghar mein rehnay wali maan ho ya ...ghar se bahir kaam karnay wali maaN....yeh jazba tu equally janwaroun mein b hai ..MAAN ki azmat se kisay inkar hai , but yes I have seen so many families jahan ..working mothers har waqt yehi rona daaliti hein k ..kia karoon kaam se wapic aao tu itnay thakay hotay hein ..ghar ko sahi se time nahi dey saktay ...bachay ignore ho rahay hein ....agar Mulazim hein tu jo haalat mein nay deykhay wo ...those are so ridiculous that...:(


yeh sab bhi to jobs main shumar hota hai na ?:D:


,,
Job but with out salary ..and we are talking about the JOB which Women DO for earning Money .....:)

Gul
28th October 2007, 17:59
orat ka asal mukam us ka ghar he jahan us ko bohat sara waqt dena hota he,bachon ki tarbeyat karna hoti he or ye aik full time job he is ke elawa phir mazeed kisi job ki kia zarurat he?:donno:ager wo ghar ko bhi dekhe or job bhi kare to wo phir double kaam kare gi or natija thakawat or zehni tension ho ga jo us ke ghar or bachon par bure asraat muratab kare ga.aj ke doar me insan me bardasht kam ho chuki he is leay k insan ne khud ko bilawaja hi dher saer bakheron me masroof kar lia he.purane waqton me khwateen gharon par rehne ko tarjeeh dia karti thein to ghar pursakoon raha karte the jab ke aaj dekh lein kese asaani se ghar toot jate hen.

Thanx ! for submitting a nice POST :) :salam:Very nice Points ..I am totally agree with U :roseThanx !

Gul
28th October 2007, 18:07
app nay bikul theek kaha hay laikin agr usi ghar main kuch khany ko na hoa or koi or kmany wala bhi na hoa to kia aurat moon daikhti rhay ge k koi aa'ay or mujhy kmaa kr day....mery khiyal say aurat ko zindagi k hr shobay main mharat hasil honie cha'he'ay....taan k woh hr mushkil ka samnaa ba'koobi kr saky or usay kisi ka mohtaaj na hona pary....agr koi khwaateen job kr bhi laiti hain to is main koi problem nahi hay.... job krna dossroon k aagy haath phailany say behtr hay:)
or agr koi auat job krti hay to is ka mtlb yeh nahi k woh apny bachoon ko nahi sanbhal skay ge...ajj kal k moashry main jo khwateen job krti hain woh poarni khwateen ke nisbat ziyada illam rakhti hain..or apni knowledge k hisaab say woh apny bachoon ke achi parwrish bhi kr sakti hain or job bhi kr sakti hain:)

deykhiya jia jee ...JAHAN ZAROORAT ka word ata hai na ...Tu we have No arguments for that ....that is obligatory for a WOMAN to help...her family out of BLACK TIME ..right!!!!!! V here are talking about the women who just do job tu b independed or to get more MONEY ...
but this is true that a woman who goes out for earning can NEVER EVER give equal attention to her family home ..Kids....other family activities ...problems...! she just have tensions which she brought from outside ..and ....:) that can make worst conditions at home.. when our hubby needs a relaxed atmosphere at home when he comes back from a hard long day....at work* ....a wife should b there to relax him not not create more tensions....aap soach sakti hein ghar ka kia naqsha ho ga :)

Gul
28th October 2007, 18:18
App nay bhi biklkul theek kaha hay....laikin aik trf aap keh rahi hain k khwateen ko job nahi krni cha'he'ay or dussri trf app keh rahi hain islaahi turr pr kaam krna theek hay to main app ko btati chalo k jisay hum log job ka name day chukky hain usay dossry lafzoon main kaam krna he kaha jata hay...or jisa k app nay kaha k aisi aurtoon tk illam pohancha'ain jo k kisi wjah say parh nahi sakeen to isay dussry lafzoon main teaching kehty hain or yeh bhi job he hay:)
aik trf app keh rahi hain k job nahi krni cha'he'ay or dussri trf job k zraya bata rahi hain ?:cc:


Oh Dear Oh dear :) ....WHY DO WE PPL always think of money....
JOB here we talk about is .....EARNING MONEY ....
jo kaam ISLAAHI TURR per kiyay jaatay nah Behnaa wo earn karnay k liyay nahi hotay...wo sirf Allah ko khush rakhnay aur ...Society ko behtar bana-nay k liyay hotay hein ..oss k liyay aap ko ghar se bahir janay ki zaroorat nahi...aap kuch time jo gupping shupping aur parties mein lagatay hein wo time aap onn tak apna mofeed elm deynay mein guzarein ..i think aik aurat jo gahr mein rehti hai oss k pass 2 se 3 ghantay tu rehaty hein hee k wo apni marzi se guzar sakay aap agar chahtay hein k aap k elm se koi fai-da othaa-ay tu .. iss k liyay aap onn 2 ya 3 hours mein kuch b acha kaam kar sakti hein ..but WITH OUT MONEY:)

Gul
28th October 2007, 18:29
poornay waqatoun main bhi aurtian kaam karti thein lekan gharoun main reh kay karti the usay job ka naam nahi dia jata tha ....ab vohi kaam bahir ja kay karnay lagi hain to usay job ka naam day kay is ki mukhalafat ki jati hai....aaj bhi aurtian gharoun main kaam kar rahi hain agar yehi bahir ja kay karian to mukhalafat aisa kio ?:donno: ....

aik aurat ko sirf apnay bachoun apnay ghar key leye nahi pooray mulk ki leye kaam karna chaye :)
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U R Right....MERA POINT YEHI tha ...K WHY WOMEN GO OUT FOR JOB,.....they can stay at home...and can do many things ...
.laikin is mein b ek point aur oth-ta hai ...
K ...ek khatoon hein and I KNOW HER VERY WELL...she is really dear to me ...wo ghar rehti hein ...magar ghar reh kar ..She live in another state and .NEW YORK city mein ek Medical institute hai oss se Connected hein computer k through wo Insurance and isi kisam ka kaam karti hein ...and U cant believe .. K wo chanay k bawajood waqt per apnay bachoun ko sahi se kahan nahi dey saktien ..wo Working hard wali conditions deyti hein ...magar onn k bachay kabhi cereal kah rahay hotay hein kabhi cookies ..though she wants to give them tiem in studies but she can not because onn ko ..har waqt Foen per infoz leyan hoti hein reporst likhan hoti hein forms fill karna hota hai i dont know kia kia karna hota hai so it is effecting on her health as well as on her family life...! so.......!:)

Gul
28th October 2007, 18:50
....mery khiyal say aurat ko zindagi k hr shobay main mharat hasil honie cha'he'ay....taan k woh hr mushkil ka samnaa ba'koobi kr saky or usay kisi ka mohtaaj na hona pary...

Beyshak AIK AURAT KO WO sab kuch maloom hona chhaiyay ..jo oss k liyay aagay chal kar kaam , aa-ay ....LIFE ki har problem ko face kar sakay ...she should b better than men by all means ....BUT ...oss k liyay b Jon karnay ki har giz zaroorat nahi ....AAP apni abilities ko mukhtalif tareeqoun se ....show kar sakti hein ....:) not only ..... being a WORKING WOMAN ..:)



sahi :thmbup: aksar loog yehi kehtay hian jab buhat zarorat hoo tab kaam kia jaye ..lekan mery nazdeek yehi hai kay aap pehlay hi say apnay aap ko set karoo ..takay bad main mushkil aye hi na ...
bad main kjab job karna chaaye gee to jobs us kay leye available houn gee ?:) itna fast zamana hai kisi bhi cheez key leye kafi hath paoun marnay partay hian ...bad main jo cheez usay chaye woh wesi mill jaye gee usay ?mazeed tension hoo gee usay job dhoundnay main bhi ...or ghar main reh reh kay aksar aurtian is taraf step utha bhi nahi sakti pher ...itna arsa ghar main guzaar kar bahir niklna koi asan nahi hota ...is taraha woh dosroun ki muhtaaj rehti hai koi aye to us ka kaam karwa day :)

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:) jee dear ! WE should b prepared for any situation ...zahir hai taleem haasil karna har mard o zan per farz hai ...aur iss se kisi ko inkar nahi...WO tallem iss had tak haasil karay jis had tak wo chahti hai ... But taleem haasil karnay yeh matlab har giz nahi k wo job karay ...zamanay k fast honay ka ap kehti hein dear tu zamany ko bana-nay walay b tu hum insan hee hein na....Hum kion nahi MEHDOOD hotay , hum kion nahi waqt ko mutthi mein leytay hum waqt k sath kion bhagtay hein hamein apna stamina ..itna strong karna chhaiay k ...waqt k sath bhagna na paray hum waqt k sath chalein ..:) ....hum yeh kion soachtay hein k ...waqt hamein yeh sab kuch karnay per majboor kar raha hai ....beyshak ek mushkil waqt mein jab KHATOON ko ghar se bahir nikalna prta hai tu wo khas mushkil hota ho ga ...beyshak magar ....AUARAT ki yehi tu salahiyat hai k wo har mushkil waqt mein mard se bahr k mushkil ka samna karti hai ..magar os k liyay yeh kehna lazim nahi lagta k sirf wahi aurta baahdur hai jo gahr se bahir nikal k job karti hai .:) Jin kamoun k muhtaaj honay ki aap baat kar rahi hein wo aurat JOB k binaa b kar sakti hein ....Koi b ghar mein erhnay wali khatoon ...i mean jo working woman nahi ho ..wo sari groceries , saray bank mein bills and other kaam kar sakti ...hai....IS K LIYAY WORKING WOMAN honay ki koi zaroorat nahi :)

Shakh-e-Tamana
28th October 2007, 20:19
hmmmmmmm


aurton ki job k baray main........well her insaan ki apni thoughts hoti hain..or me ap say apni kuch thoughts share karon gi ais baray main

jahan tak mera khayal hai keh...ager ap k paas itni qulification hai keh ap izat ki job ker saktay ho tu zaroor kerni chahiye.....per yeh nahi hai keh...ager kisi waja say ap zaiyda nahi perh saki tu ap ko job kerni he nahi chahiye...kerni chahiye..lakin apnay mutabik ki...or mera yeh b khayal hai keh...urat ko job shadi k pehlay tak he kerni chahiye.....haaan shadi k baad b ker sakti hai....but sirf ager zaroort ho tab....ager ap ko zaroort nahi hai tu...shadi k baad ap ko job nahi kerni chahiye...coz ik gahar hota hai ap ka...husband hota hai..buhat si responsibility's hoti hain....so un sab ko peechay chor ker ap ko job nahi kerni chaiye......
or after babies b mera yahi khayal hai keh uraat ko job nahi kerni chahiye....sara time apnay gahar ko or babies ko he dena chahiye...baat wohi keh ager zaroort ho tab tu zahri baat hai....ap ko her haal main kerni he paray gi.....


well in sari baaton k end main yahi kahon gi....keh uraat ko jab tak gahar say bahir poun nahi rakhna chahiye..jab tak wo majboor na ho.....us ko zaroort na ho.....meri tu yahi thoughts hain......

AbgeenA
29th October 2007, 07:10
hamra point yeh hai kay agar pehlay hi say is taraf kushish ki jaye to majboori peda hi nahi hoo gee ...:D: ab majboori a gai to zahir hai karni hi parey gee jo kay hamra mozoo nahi hai yeh ...

or shok ki baat kahi hai aap nay to is main boorai kia hai kisi ko job ka shok hoo to ?:D: jesa kay main nay pehlay kaha kay pesa kamana , taleem ka istamal yeh sari cheezian hasil karnay ka haq to aurat ko bhi hona chaye ...or shok hai to tab bhi koi boorai nahi ...

deekhian aik aurat ghar main reh kay kaam kaaj karti hai bachoun kideekh bhaal karti hai ..or bakis ara waqat tv, parties,or shopping in cheezoun main guzar daiti hai .....or dosri aurat ghar/bachoun kay bas apna waqat jobs main guzartyi hai to kia boorai hai ?

aurtoun ki zindagi may bhi stages hotay hian ...parhai kay bad shadi say pehlay kafi waqat hota hai us waqat bhi job kar sakti hain ...us waqat kuch khas zimmdarian bhi nahi hoti ..

continue .....:D:
shok me job karna burai nahi he lekin isi shok shok me aap janti hen k males ki job ke leay jobs ka aik masla ban chuka he.bohat sari jaghon par khawateen ne mardon ka haq ghasab kar rakha he or asal zarurat mand mard jinhon ne aik puri family chalani hoti he un ko jobs nahi mil paten.or bat he zarurat ki to mera point ye he k bila zarurat or khas tor par jab larki married he or us ke kids chote hen to us ko job nahi karni chaey.me aik family ko janti hon wife doctor hen un ke husband ki job bhi esi he k zeada time bahir rehna parta he or ab dono ki gher mojudgi me un ke 2 kids ghar par aik mulazim ke sath ghar par akele hote hen ab ye kahan ka insaf he ya kahan ka shok he k ap apni sab se qeemti cheez apni job par risk me rakh rahe hen.har insan ki aik infradi kahani ya kirdar he ager to wakai life style esa he k job asaani se ki ja sakti he to kare warna orat ko afeyat apne ghar me hi naseeb hoti he.or waqt na neya hota he na purana wohi rehta he.bachon ko aaj bhi wesi hi tawajo or piyar ki zarurat hoti he jese pehle thi.pehle bache ki tarbeyat maan karti thi ab taleem to zarur achi mil jati he lekin tarbeyat ka bohat fuqdaan he.ager esa nahi hota to apne moashre me barhti hui beycheni ko dekh lein.maon ke paas waqt nahi k bachon ko acha bura samjha saken.sara hafta parents apni apni job me bzy life bhaag rahi hoti he bas weekends par kuch time share kar lia jata he.
baki jab kids bare ho jaen or orat ke pas waqt ho to us waqt bhi wo koi kaam kar sakti he it depends on situation:)

AbgeenA
29th October 2007, 07:14
Thanx ! for submitting a nice POST :) :salam:Very nice Points ..I am totally agree with U :roseThanx !
thanxx:)aap ke points bhi aik dam:thmbup:

jia
29th October 2007, 10:13
Oh Dear Oh dear :) ....WHY DO WE PPL always think of money....
JOB here we talk about is .....EARNING MONEY ....
jo kaam ISLAAHI TURR per kiyay jaatay nah Behnaa wo earn karnay k liyay nahi hotay...wo sirf Allah ko khush rakhnay aur ...Society ko behtar bana-nay k liyay hotay hein ..oss k liyay aap ko ghar se bahir janay ki zaroorat nahi...aap kuch time jo gupping shupping aur parties mein lagatay hein wo time aap onn tak apna mofeed elm deynay mein guzarein ..i think aik aurat jo gahr mein rehti hai oss k pass 2 se 3 ghantay tu rehaty hein hee k wo apni marzi se guzar sakay aap agar chahtay hein k aap k elm se koi fai-da othaa-ay tu .. iss k liyay aap onn 2 ya 3 hours mein kuch b acha kaam kar sakti hein ..but WITH OUT MONEY:)
dear every one knows that job is only the way of earn MONEY.......jo bhi koi job krta hay woh paessy kmany k liay he krta hay ...koi koi hotty hain jo k sirf apna shoq poora krny k liay krty hain..laikin ziyada tr majboor log hoty hain jinhain apny bachoon ke behtr parwrish krni hoti hay or apny ghar ko theek treqay say snwaarna hota hay....mery khiyaal say is main koi harj nahi hay k khwaaten job kran .......or unhain zarorat k wqt he nahi bl k us k ilawa bhi job krni chahiay ...kion k woh apny future k bary main kuch nahi jateen k kaisa hoga..... kia pata usay whaan ja kr is ki zarorat bhi par sakti hay...or yeh sab khwateen ghar per baithy baithy nahi rk sakteen unhain ghar say bahir nikalna he parta hay or ajj kal k dor main koi aisi aurat hay jo k ghar main baithna cha'hti hay?

jia
29th October 2007, 10:29
U R Right....MERA POINT YEHI tha ...K WHY WOMEN GO OUT FOR JOB,.....they can stay at home...and can do many things ...
.laikin is mein b ek point aur oth-ta hai ...
K ...ek khatoon hein and I KNOW HER VERY WELL...she is really dear to me ...wo ghar rehti hein ...magar ghar reh kar ..She live in another state and .NEW YORK city mein ek Medical institute hai oss se Connected hein computer k through wo Insurance and isi kisam ka kaam karti hein ...and U cant believe .. K wo chanay k bawajood waqt per apnay bachoun ko sahi se kahan nahi dey saktien ..wo Working hard wali conditions deyti hein ...magar onn k bachay kabhi cereal kah rahay hotay hein kabhi cookies ..though she wants to give them tiem in studies but she can not because onn ko ..har waqt Foen per infoz leyan hoti hein reporst likhan hoti hein forms fill karna hota hai i dont know kia kia karna hota hai so it is effecting on her health as well as on her family life...! so.......!:)
mery khiyal say zarori nahi hay k hr aurat (Working women)aisi hooon ge jo k apny bachoon ko time nahi day pati hoon ge ...infact kai aisi khwateen hai jo k job krti hain is k baawjood bhi woh apny gher waloon ko bhi time daiti hain apny bachon ko bhi sanbhalti hain or un k bachy bhi un say khush hoty hain....yeh ab job krny wali khwaaten per depend krta hay k woh kis hud tk apny ghar ko bhi or apni job ko bhi sanbhal sakti hain.:)agr woh yeh sab theek trhaan say nnahi kr sakteen to is say acha hay k woh job na krain laikin is ka mtlb yeh nahi hay k koi bhi aurat job na kary.......aurtoon ko khudkafeel hony k liay ghar say nikalna he parta hay....ghar per baithy kuch nahi hota...ghar say bahir nikal kr he bahir k halat ka or apny gird-o-nwaah ka pata chalta hay.....
porany zmany main bhi aurtain job krti theen....to ab kion nahi kr sakteen?

Aanchal
29th October 2007, 16:22
[COLOR=Indigo][I][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3] anyway ....sab se pehlay I just want to know k rules mein Quote karnay se koi problem tu nahi agar aisa hai tu ....Plz do tell me ..RIGHT!


ji aap quote kar sakti hain koi masla nahi hai :rose

Aanchal
29th October 2007, 16:31
anyway ... :) hum har cheez mein time ko blame kartay hein k waqt hee aisa aa giya hai ....tu dear zaroortein tu har durr mein kahin na kahin kisi na kisi soorat moojood rahein, Har zamany mein oss k mutabiq zarooratoon k sawal othay ...magar hamari khawateen nay apnay aap ko oss se roka ..aur they lived happy life..hum kis tarah mehdood kar sakti hein apni zarooratoun ko yeh hum khud hee apnay ehtesaab karein tu jaan sakti hein ..:) yeh ek individual ko theek honay ki zaroorat hai ...and u know that k
ek fard se millat banti hai ...:) *har fard hai millat k muqaddar ka sitara*
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ji zaroratian pehlay bhi the ab bhi hain ...ab facilities kafi a gai hian ladies ko job karnay main masla nahi hai ..peechlay zamnay ki taraf nazar dorraian to ladies ko facitilies hi nahi the job karnay ki jo karti .....ab waqat badal chuka hai ......zamnay kay sath sath chalna chaye ....
aurtian job nahi karian gee to school teachers kahan say aian gee ? sirf Males parhian gay ..or aksar waldenn Males teacher kay paas apni larkeoun ko nahi parhtay ..:)....aik aurat ghar main apnay bachoun ki sahi tarbeyat kar sakti hai to ghar say bahir woh mulk kay hazaroun Lakhoun bachoun ki tarbeyat kar sakti hai ...

ladies job na karian to lady doctors kahans ay aian gee ? nurses kahans ay aian gee ? kia female apni har beemari ka Ilaaj Male doc say karwaian gee ?
ladies ki job say ladies hi ko faida hoo ga na ? woh apni baat asani say agay pouncha sakti hian ..apna masla asani sai lady doc ko bata sakti hian ...


khawateen har mulk ki taqreban adhi abadi to zaror hoti hain ....agar adhi abadi baki adhi badi(Males) pay depend kar kay beath gai to mulk kahan say taraqqi karey ga ....

Aanchal
29th October 2007, 16:41
[COLOR=Indigo][I][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3]Jee sahi kaha aap nay k wo kafayat-shoaari nahi kanjoosi k has tak ho jaati hein magar sirf oss money k liyay jo wo earn karti hein ...hubby ki kamaai ko be dregh kharch karti hein ....ya kuch adverse situations b create ho jaati hein ,,jo mein next posts mein yaqeenan quote karoon gee :)

yeh to pher un aurtoun ka qasoor howa jo apni ya hubby ki kaamai ka khayal nahi reakhti is main job ka kahan qasoor ata hai ?:D: aisi batian un aurtoun main bhi paai jati hain jo job nahi karti ...jo sughhar aurtian nahi hoti , ghar nahi sanbhaal sakti ...is main sirf job karnay wali khawateen ko mulawis nahi kia ja sakta :D:

Maan hona ....maan ki tarah hona mein bihat farq hai ...beshak maan apnay jazbaat apnay ehsasat ko kabhi b peechay nahi chorti chahay wo ek ghar mein rehnay wali maan ho ya ...ghar se bahir kaam karnay wali maaN....yeh jazba tu equally janwaroun mein b hai ..MAAN ki azmat se kisay inkar hai , but yes I have seen so many families jahan ..working mothers har waqt yehi rona daaliti hein k ..kia karoon kaam se wapic aao tu itnay thakay hotay hein ..ghar ko sahi se time nahi dey saktay ...bachay ignore ho rahay hein ....agar Mulazim hein tu jo haalat mein nay deykhay wo ...those are so ridiculous that...:(

main jin ko janti houn woh ghar or bachoun ko sahi time daiti hain ...is leye har aurat aisi nahi hai ....bachoun ko time na deenay wali baat haito job na karnay wali female bhi kuch aisi hoti hain ......main aisi ladies ko janti houn ghar main theek thaak pesay hotay hian , job bhi nahi karti lekan ghar kay mamlay main dull hoti hian ...aisi aksar ladies ko kahana banana bhi nahi ata ......to yeh to aurt aurat pay hota hai ...job karnay wali aurat main ehleyat hai to wo ghar or job donoo ko sahi mangae kar sakti hai :rose


Job but with out salary ..and we are talking about the JOB which Women DO for earning Money .....:)

job without salary sahi or job with salary ghalat ?:D:
No dear hamra topic job ka hai is main sirf yeh nahi hai kay aurat kamnay kay leye job karey ya na karey .:rose

Aanchal
29th October 2007, 16:55
mery khiyal say zarori nahi hay k hr aurat (Working women)aisi hooon ge jo k apny bachoon ko time nahi day pati hoon ge ...infact kai aisi khwateen hai jo k job krti hain is k baawjood bhi woh apny gher waloon ko bhi time daiti hain apny bachon ko bhi sanbhalti hain or un k bachy bhi un say khush hoty hain....yeh ab job krny wali khwaaten per depend krta hay k woh kis hud tk apny ghar ko bhi or apni job ko bhi sanbhal sakti hain.:)agr woh yeh sab theek trhaan say nnahi kr sakteen to is say acha hay k woh job na krain laikin is ka mtlb yeh nahi hay k koi bhi aurat job na kary.......aurtoon ko khudkafeel hony k liay ghar say nikalna he parta hay....ghar per baithy kuch nahi hota...ghar say bahir nikal kr he bahir k halat ka or apny gird-o-nwaah ka pata chalta hay.....
porany zmany main bhi aurtain job krti theen....to ab kion nahi kr sakteen?


yep har aurat aisi nahi hoti :thmbup: main nay khud kai aurtian aisi deekhi hain jo ghar pay hoti hain job nahi karti pher bhi apnay bachoun ki sahi tarebeyat nahi kar pati ...is leye bachoun ki sahi tarbeyat na honay ka ilzam job pay lagana sahi nahi hai ......main pehlay bhi aik cheez keh chuki houn TIME MANAGEMENT ki kay jo aurtian is ka khyal karti hain woh job,ghar donoo ko sanbhal sakti hai :rose

Aanchal
29th October 2007, 16:59
main aik aisi aurat ko janti houn jis nay shadi kay bad husband kay leye apni aik buhat achi job jis main woh acha khasa kamati the woh choor di ....kuch saloun bad us kay husband nay hi usay choor dia :)

aik aurat ko pehlay hi say in sab cheezoun kay leye tayyar rehna chaye ...ab itnay saloun bad aik aurat kay leye ghar say bahir niklna , job hasil karna itna asan nahi hota ...job aisi cheez bhi nahi insaan jab chaye hath main a jaye ...aik sahi job kay leye kafi hath paoun marnay partay hian ...pher kuch saloun main banda set hota hai ....

Aanchal
29th October 2007, 17:02
aurat ko sirf zarorat kay leye hi kio istamal kia jata hai us ka apna koi shok nahi us ki apni koi zindagi nahi kay woh apni pasand say jab chaye job karey ?

Aanchal
29th October 2007, 17:04
abhi tak sirf bachoun or husband wali ladies ki baat ki ja rahi hai ...jin ki shadi nahi hovi hoti ya woh bari omer ki aurtian jin kay bachay shadi kar kay alag ja basye hotay hain ya parhai kay leye ghars ay door hotay hain woh aurtian kia karian ?:)

Gul
29th October 2007, 19:05
ji aap quote kar sakti hain koi masla nahi hai :rose



Nawazish aanchal jee :):yo:

Gul
29th October 2007, 19:15
ji zaroratian pehlay bhi the ab bhi hain ...ab facilities kafi a gai hian ladies ko job karnay main masla nahi hai ..peechlay zamnay ki taraf nazar dorraian to ladies ko facitilies hi nahi the job karnay ki jo karti .....ab waqat badal chuka hai ......zamnay kay sath sath chalna chaye ....
aurtian job nahi karian gee to school teachers kahan say aian gee ? sirf Males parhian gay ..or aksar waldenn Males teacher kay paas apni larkeoun ko nahi parhtay ..:)....aik aurat ghar main apnay bachoun ki sahi tarbeyat kar sakti hai to ghar say bahir woh mulk kay hazaroun Lakhoun bachoun ki tarbeyat kar sakti hai ...

ladies job na karian to lady doctors kahans ay aian gee ? nurses kahans ay aian gee ? kia female apni har beemari ka Ilaaj Male doc say karwaian gee ?
ladies ki job say ladies hi ko faida hoo ga na ? woh apni baat asani say agay pouncha sakti hian ..apna masla asani sai lady doc ko bata sakti hian ...


khawateen har mulk ki taqreban adhi abadi to zaror hoti hain ....agar adhi abadi baki adhi badi(Males) pay depend kar kay beath gai to mulk kahan say taraqqi karey ga ....


:comfort:

Gul
29th October 2007, 19:19
job without salary sahi or job with salary ghalat ?:D:
No dear hamra topic job ka hai is main sirf yeh nahi hai kay aurat kamnay kay leye job karey ya na karey .:rose

:D:

Gul
29th October 2007, 19:20
job without salary sahi or job with salary ghalat ?:D:
No dear hamra topic job ka hai is main sirf yeh nahi hai kay aurat kamnay kay leye job karey ya na karey .:rose

:eye:

Gul
29th October 2007, 19:21
Baqi jawabat ley ka Mein kuch deyr baad haazir hoon gee ..:) abhi kuch kaam hein so onhein niptaya ja-ay ....gupshup tu chalti rahay gee inshaAllah! !:)

Shakh-e-Tamana
29th October 2007, 22:10
aurat ko sirf zarorat kay leye hi kio istamal kia jata hai us ka apna koi shok nahi us ki apni koi zindagi nahi kay woh apni pasand say jab chaye job karey ?



hmmmm i think keh aurat majboor b hoti hai na.....ais liye us ko sab kerna parta hai sab k liye....wo apni marzi b ker sakti hai...but phir ya tu loog us ko acha nahi samhjtay ya phir.....us ko akila he chor detay hain keh jao ker lo apni marzi...so aurat ko yeh sab kerna he parta hai majboori main ya jesay b....

Shakh-e-Tamana
29th October 2007, 22:17
dear every one knows that job is only the way of earn MONEY.......jo bhi koi job krta hay woh paessy kmany k liay he krta hay ...koi koi hotty hain jo k sirf apna shoq poora krny k liay krty hain..laikin ziyada tr majboor log hoty hain jinhain apny bachoon ke behtr parwrish krni hoti hay or apny ghar ko theek treqay say snwaarna hota hay....mery khiyaal say is main koi harj nahi hay k khwaaten job kran .......or unhain zarorat k wqt he nahi bl k us k ilawa bhi job krni chahiay ...kion k woh apny future k bary main kuch nahi jateen k kaisa hoga..... kia pata usay whaan ja kr is ki zarorat bhi par sakti hay...or yeh sab khwateen ghar per baithy baithy nahi rk sakteen unhain ghar say bahir nikalna he parta hay or ajj kal k dor main koi aisi aurat hay jo k ghar main baithna cha'hti hay?



well aurat ko gahar say jesay b ya jis b halaat main nikalna parta hai....lakin hamara mashra aisa hai keh....jo b aurat beshaik wo majboor hai ye jesay b...koi b usay achi nigah say nahi dekhta...yeh tu ab sab jantay he hain..or mantay b hain....beshaik zamanay nay buhat taraqi ki hai...but still loog aisay he sochtay hain.....

or dosri baat....ik aurat....kisi ki maan,behan,beti,baho or biwi b hoti hai....so in main say koi b realation yeh sunana kabhi pasand nahi karay ga..keh haan ji ais ki behan,beti,baho,biwi ya maan...kaam kerti hai...ya koi b aisi waisi baat...koi b nahi sun sakta...so ais liye b loog aurton ka kaam kerna na pasand he kertay hain.....jab keh aurat ka kaam kerna koi itna bura kaam nahi hai....

Gul
30th October 2007, 04:49
dear every one knows that job is only the way of earn MONEY.......jo bhi koi job krta hay woh paessy kmany k liay he krta hay ...koi koi hotty hain jo k sirf apna shoq poora krny k liay krty hain..laikin ziyada tr majboor log hoty hain jinhain apny bachoon ke behtr parwrish krni hoti hay or apny ghar ko theek treqay say snwaarna hota hay....mery khiyaal say is main koi harj nahi hay k khwaaten job kran .......or unhain zarorat k wqt he nahi bl k us k ilawa bhi job krni chahiay ...kion k woh apny future k bary main kuch nahi jateen k kaisa hoga..... kia pata usay whaan ja kr is ki zarorat bhi par sakti hay...or yeh sab khwateen ghar per baithy baithy nahi rk sakteen unhain ghar say bahir nikalna he parta hay or ajj kal k dor main koi aisi aurat hay jo k ghar main baithna cha'hti hay?


mery khiyal say zarori nahi hay k hr aurat (Working women)aisi hooon ge jo k apny bachoon ko time nahi day pati hoon ge ...infact kai aisi khwateen hai jo k job krti hain is k baawjood bhi woh apny gher waloon ko bhi time daiti hain apny bachon ko bhi sanbhalti hain or un k bachy bhi un say khush hoty hain....yeh ab job krny wali khwaaten per depend krta hay k woh kis hud tk apny ghar ko bhi or apni job ko bhi sanbhal sakti hain.:)agr woh yeh sab theek trhaan say nnahi kr sakteen to is say acha hay k woh job na krain laikin is ka mtlb yeh nahi hay k koi bhi aurat job na kary.......aurtoon ko khudkafeel hony k liay ghar say nikalna he parta hay....ghar per baithy kuch nahi hota...ghar say bahir nikal kr he bahir k halat ka or apny gird-o-nwaah ka pata chalta hay.....
porany zmany main bhi aurtain job krti theen....to ab kion nahi kr sakteen?
:phool:

jia
30th October 2007, 10:36
:phool:
sis app nay attachment ke hay or jab quote kia hay to yhaan per woh wali posts saath nahi aa rahi is liay mujhy likhny main zra mushkil ho rahi hay...sari baat samny ho to likhny main bohat asaani hoti hay..hr baat ka asaaani say jwaab dia ja sakta hay..plz next time b careful about it:)



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mainy aisa to nahi kaha k hum log apni baitioon ko zbardasti job krwany pr tull ja'ain ...........yan aisi bhi koi baat nahi hay k hum apny bachoon ko istrhaan say srkoon per chod dain gay ...bl k hum logoon ka frz bnta hay k hum unhain un srkoon ko cross krnay ka treeqa btain kion k hum log sari zindagi to un logoon k saath saath nahi ghoomain gay k aoo tumhain road cross krwa doon..theek hay naa?...is k ilawa agr hum log is baat k liay sure nahi hain k future main khwateen ko job ki zarort par sakti hay to is baat ke kia guarenty hay k usay job ki zarort nahi pary ge...jab lrkian job k qabil ho jati hain tab he job krti hain i mean to say that tab unhain itni smajh to hoti he hay k unhain kia krna hay or kia nahi un k liay ia munasib ho ga or kia nahi or sab say bari yeh baat jo k app nay kahe hay usay road to cross krna he ata ho ga na....aisi baat nahi hay k khwateen ko job ke aadat honie chahiay baat to sirf experience ke hay jo k woh kisi bhi wqt use kr sakti hay:)

jia
30th October 2007, 10:50
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dear yeh sab ab us aurat per depend krta hay k woh kistrhaan apni family ko bhi sanbhally ge or job bhi kary ge...pehly zmany main aurtoon ko izzat de jati thi laikin is zmany main aurtoon ko izzat hasil krni parti hay:)...is main aurtoon ka koi qasoor nahi hay..is main halaat or moashry ka qasoor hay....ab agr koi aurtoon k haqooq ko peechay choday ga to phir aurtoon ko to yeh krna he pary ga na k woh apny haqooq k liay jad-o-jahad krain or apna moqaam qayem krain....or rahi mard hzraat ke baat to yeh un logoon ko cha'he'ay k aurtoon ko jgaah de ja'ay na k aurtain kehti pherain k woh un ke jgah per baithna chahti hain:(.....is main aurat ko he kion blam kia jaa raha hay kuch fra'ez mrdoon k bhi hoty hain jo k woh log ada nahi krty is ka mtlb yeh nahi aurat haath par haath dhar kr baithi rhay or apny paeroon per khari na ho..
main janti hoon k aurat or treeqon say bhi ghar say bahir nikal sakti hay laikin...is trhaan nikalny say woh apny ghar k akhrajaat to poory nahi kr sakti na... jab k job ghar k akhrajat poory krny k liay ke jati hay na k duniya ke sair-o-siyahat k liay ....

jia
30th October 2007, 11:01
yep har aurat aisi nahi hoti :thmbup: main nay khud kai aurtian aisi deekhi hain jo ghar pay hoti hain job nahi karti pher bhi apnay bachoun ki sahi tarebeyat nahi kar pati ...is leye bachoun ki sahi tarbeyat na honay ka ilzam job pay lagana sahi nahi hai ......main pehlay bhi aik cheez keh chuki houn TIME MANAGEMENT ki kay jo aurtian is ka khyal karti hain woh job,ghar donoo ko sanbhal sakti hai :rose
:)
ji Anchal app nay theek kaha hay k TIME MANAGMENT ka khiyal rakhty ho'ay khwateen hr kaam ba'khoobi or ba'aasani kr sakti hain...or agr woh nahi kr sakteen to is ka mtlb yeh nahi k koi bhi aurat nahi kr sakti...
hr wo aurat jo job krti hay usay itna to pata he hota hay k usay ghar k kaam bhi sanbhalny hain or job bhi krni hay phir agr yeh sab janty hoay woh job kary ge to mera nahi khiyal k woh apny ghar walon ko time nahi day pa'ay ge:)Yaan apny ghar ko theek trhaan say sanbhal nahi pa'ay ge......

Soulmate
30th October 2007, 13:01
app nay bikul theek kaha hay laikin agr usi ghar main kuch khany ko na hoa or koi or kmany wala bhi na hoa to kia aurat moon daikhti rhay ge k koi aa'ay or mujhy kmaa kr day....mery khiyal say aurat ko zindagi k hr shobay main mharat hasil honie cha'he'ay....taan k woh hr mushkil ka samnaa ba'koobi kr saky or usay kisi ka mohtaaj na hona pary....agr koi khwaateen job kr bhi laiti hain to is main koi problem nahi hay.... job krna dossroon k aagy haath phailany say behtr hay:)
or agr koi auat job krti hay to is ka mtlb yeh nahi k woh apny bachoon ko nahi sanbhal skay ge...ajj kal k moashry main jo khwateen job krti hain woh poarni khwateen ke nisbat ziyada illam rakhti hain..or apni knowledge k hisaab say woh apny bachoon ke achi parwrish bhi kr sakti hain or job bhi kr sakti hain:)


Asslam o Alycum All :salam:

Jia u r absolutely right, baaz jagah aisa hota hai ke kisi ghar mein koi mard he nehi hota, tu wahan ladies kia karein ge..... unhe majboran kaam kaj karna pare ga.

aur reh gaye baat ke jo aurtein job karti hain, wo apne bachoon ke tarbiat sahi nhi kar sakti tu ye totally ghalat hai, ham ne kai aise families dekhi hain ke jin ke aurtein well educated hain, job nehi karti laiken un ke bacha studies mein bilkul dull hote hain, jab ke aik aise aurat jis ke qualification bhi normal hoti hai wo job bhi karti hai and saath mein bache bhi sanbhalti hai tu us ke bache sab se laiq hote hain (agar aap kaho tu mein aise kai examples dikha sakta hoon, balke ap ne bhi kai aise examples dekhi hoon ge).


Khair baqi mein tafseel se apna Reply post karoon ga INshallah.

AbgeenA
30th October 2007, 14:44
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agreed Gul:thmbup::phool:or inpage me likh kar to kamal kar dia:)

Aanchal
30th October 2007, 15:57
jin logoo nay participate kia hai sirf vohi is thread main postings kar saktay hian .... Barah-e-mehrabni posting say pehlay zara rules parh lia karian ...:rose

Aanchal
30th October 2007, 16:05
:comfort:
#34

Medical field main baray baray operations males hi kartay hian no doubt ..or jis cheez ki aap baat kar rahi hain us main bhi Males hi hotay hain zaidatar (Daywalker mamoun bhi isi field main hain :D) ...lekan is say yeh baat kahan ati hai kay female ko is field main kaam nahi karna chaye kay Male to hai hi pehlay say :donno:
or jo bhi cases male handle kartyay hain un main kisi female ka sath hona must hai aisay kisi male ko female ka ilaaj karna allowed nahi hota ..:) ....

or jo Male doc hotay hian un main kitnay cases female say zaidaiti kay samnay atay hian ? ..ab female hi professional houn gee to aisay cases nahi houn gay ...

or dosri baat kay college /uni main bhi professor zaida male hi paye jatay hian ....is say inkaar nahi hai lekan female ki bhi buhat zarorat hai is field main .....loog co-education pay to buhat shoor machatay hian lekanis baray main koi khamosh hoo jatay hain kay in fields main female ko agay ana chaye ...:)

Aanchal
30th October 2007, 16:10
#35

yeh to jobs pay depend karta hai woh kis kisem ki job kar rahi hian ..har job aik hi taraha ki thori hoti hai :D:...or izzat say kaam karnay wali job lakhoun hain un main aian ....koi koi majboori kay thehat aisi jobs kar laiti hain jin ka tazkara aap nay kia hai ..or bad main apni life main set honay kay bad isay choor kay koi behtar job karti hian :rose

Aanchal
30th October 2007, 16:15
:eye:

#36
ghar pay rehnay wali khawateen beshak kaam karti hain ....lekan is main us ki apni khawaihsian dab jati hain :) ghar ghar or ghar kisi or cheez ka kuch pata nahi hota .....aap aisi female say ja kay poouchian un kay kai khawaab hotay hian jo woh pooray nahi kar pati ...kisi cheez ki khawish ho to pehlay ghar waloun ko poora karti hain pher kahi ja kay us ki bari ati hai bad main woh cheez millye na millye :donno: ..jab kay jobs karnay wali khawateen main aisi mayousi buhat kam pai jati hai woh apnay khawaab khud pooray kar sakti hain kisi ki muhtaaji kay bagheer :rose

Gul
30th October 2007, 18:53
sis app nay attachment ke hay or jab quote kia hay to yhaan per woh wali posts saath nahi aa rahi is liay mujhy likhny main zra mushkil ho rahi hay...sari baat samny ho to likhny main bohat asaani hoti hay..hr baat ka asaaani say jwaab dia ja sakta hay..plz next time b careful about it:)


Mein aap Ko upload kar k link dey doon kion mein har haal mein aap ki aasaani chati hoon :)

Gul
30th October 2007, 19:13
sis app nay attachment ke hay or jab quote kia hay to yhaan per woh wali posts saath nahi aa rahi is liay mujhy likhny main zra mushkil ho rahi hay...sari baat samny ho to likhny main bohat asaani hoti hay..hr baat ka asaaani say jwaab dia ja sakta hay..plz next time b careful about it:)



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mainy aisa to nahi kaha k hum log apni baitioon ko zbardasti job krwany pr tull ja'ain ...........yan aisi bhi koi baat nahi hay k hum apny bachoon ko istrhaan say srkoon per chod dain gay ...bl k hum logoon ka frz bnta hay k hum unhain un srkoon ko cross krnay ka treeqa btain kion k hum log sari zindagi to un logoon k saath saath nahi ghoomain gay k aoo tumhain road cross krwa doon..theek hay naa?...is k ilawa agr hum log is baat k liay sure nahi hain k future main khwateen ko job ki zarort par sakti hay to is baat ke kia guarenty hay k usay job ki zarort nahi pary ge...jab lrkian job k qabil ho jati hain tab he job krti hain i mean to say that tab unhain itni smajh to hoti he hay k unhain kia krna hay or kia nahi un k liay ia munasib ho ga or kia nahi or sab say bari yeh baat jo k app nay kahe hay usay road to cross krna he ata ho ga na....aisi baat nahi hay k khwateen ko job ke aadat honie chahiay baat to sirf experience ke hay jo k woh kisi bhi wqt use kr sakti hay:)

Aap ko waqi link deynay ki zaroorat hai kion k aap meri itni detail ko sahi se yaad nahi rakh paaein naturally wahi baat k wo atachment aap k samnay nahi thee....! kher mein oss detail mein tu har giz nahi jana chahOOn gee ! bass ek baat k ....Shadi k baad jo hona hai ya ..kal Jo hona hai oss k liyay hum amal mein tiyar rehnay k liyay ...oss ka knowledge hasil kartay hein ..right? Road cross karna meinn ay auratoun ko nahi kaha tha ....ek iste`ara use kia tha k ..:) kher Larkiyan beyshak oss age mein hoti hein jab wo job kar sakti hein jab wo SAMJHDAR hoti hein ...aur mein 100% ki baat nahi kar rahi magar MOST OF ki baat kar rahi hoon ..k wo wahi samjhdaar larkiyan ...ghar k halaat ko sudhaar nahi saktien ...magar JOB jo money making hoti hein BUHAT KHOOBSOORAT tareqay se nibha leyti hein.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:):donno:

Gul
30th October 2007, 19:16
:)
ji Anchal app nay theek kaha hay k TIME MANAGMENT ka khiyal rakhty ho'ay khwateen hr kaam ba'khoobi or ba'aasani kr sakti hain...or agr woh nahi kr sakteen to is ka mtlb yeh nahi k koi bhi aurat nahi kr sakti...
hr wo aurat jo job krti hay usay itna to pata he hota hay k usay ghar k kaam bhi sanbhalny hain or job bhi krni hay phir agr yeh sab janty hoay woh job kary ge to mera nahi khiyal k woh apny ghar walon ko time nahi day pa'ay ge:)Yaan apny ghar ko theek trhaan say sanbhal nahi pa'ay ge......


yehan khawateen k time mangment ki tu baat hee nahi na .. ( Khawateen ki Salahiyutun ko kisi aur debate mein discuss karein gay :) ) Yehan per ONN 20% khawteen ki baat ho rahi hai jo job karti hein..office tu waqt per puhanch jaati hai magar ghar k kaam k liyay onn k pass Time nahi hota ...KION K beychaari thak gaien hein na:)

Gul
30th October 2007, 19:23
#34

Medical field main baray baray operations males hi kartay hian no doubt ..or jis cheez ki aap baat kar rahi hain us main bhi Males hi hotay hain zaidatar (Daywalker mamoun bhi isi field main hain :D) ...lekan is say yeh baat kahan ati hai kay female ko is field main kaam nahi karna chaye kay Male to hai hi pehlay say :donno:

or jo bhi cases male handle kartyay hain un main kisi female ka sath hona must hai aisay kisi male ko female ka ilaaj karna allowed nahi hota ..:) ....

or jo Male doc hotay hian un main kitnay cases female say zaidaiti kay samnay atay hian ? ..ab female hi professional houn gee to aisay cases nahi houn gay ...

yehan aap baat ko doosri janib ley gaein...Aanchal jee yehan male aur femal ki discussion har giz nahi ..mera kehna jo tha wo maqsad yeh tha k ...Khawateen agar dr na b houn tu tu b kaam chal sakta hai ..iss ka matlab aap doosri jaanib lay gaein ... anyway ziyadti ki baat ko deykha ja-ay tu jo khawateen doctors ziyadti karti hein wo agar aap ko zikr karoon tu janay baat kahan se kahan puhanch ja-ay ...hamein yehan paisay ko discuss nahi karna job wali khawteen ko discuss karna hai !


or dosri baat kay college /uni main bhi professor zaida male hi paye jatay hian ....is say inkaar nahi hai lekan female ki bhi buhat zarorat hai is field main .....loog co-education pay to buhat shoor machatay hian lekanis baray main koi khamosh hoo jatay hain kay in fields main female ko agay ana chaye ...:)
JANAB AAP HE KA KEHNA K ZAMAAN BUHAT FAST HAI :) iss baray mein kia arz karoon aur !
jab aurat mard k sath offices mein kaam kar sakti hein tu college ya universities mein onn se parh kion nahi saktein?:D:

Gul
30th October 2007, 19:26
#35

yeh to jobs pay depend karta hai woh kis kisem ki job kar rahi hian ..har job aik hi taraha ki thori hoti hai :D:...or izzat say kaam karnay wali job lakhoun hain un main aian ....koi koi majboori kay thehat aisi jobs kar laiti hain jin ka tazkara aap nay kia hai ..or bad main apni life main set honay kay bad isay choor kay koi behtar job karti hian :rose
chalein aap nay yeh tu mana k JIA sahiba ki baat ! gahlat hoi k life mein set hoany k baad yani aftre shadi wo job chore sakti hein ..:) Fully MARD per depend kar k ..jab k wo ..tu shadi k baad mulazmat ki liyay tiyar honay ki baat kar rahi thee jaisay maan apni beyti ko ghar gharsti sikhaati hai ...wesay MULAZMAT B karna sikhana chahiyay yeh ONN ki posts se Zahir hota hai :)

Gul
30th October 2007, 19:53
#36
ghar pay rehnay wali khawateen beshak kaam karti hain ....lekan is main us ki apni khawaihsian dab jati hain :) ghar ghar or ghar kisi or cheez ka kuch pata nahi hota .....aap aisi female say ja kay poouchian un kay kai khawaab hotay hian jo woh pooray nahi kar pati ...kisi cheez ki khawish ho to pehlay ghar waloun ko poora karti hain pher kahi ja kay us ki bari ati hai bad main woh cheez millye na millye :donno: ..jab kay jobs karnay wali khawateen main aisi mayousi buhat kam pai jati hai woh apnay khawaab khud pooray kar sakti hain kisi ki muhtaaji kay bagheer :rose

mein ghar mein rehnay wali khatoon hoon :):):) meri koi khawhishaat nahi dabbi hoi:) Alhamdolillah ....My Life is A Loveliest one ... MashaAllah ! meray khawab kabhi mehdood nahi hein .mein apnay khawab kia, khiyal kia ..amal kia sab mein Allah k hadd ko qaim rakhay howay hoon ya atleast mein iss koshish mein tu hoon.. ..meray Hubby MashaAllah sab kuch mujhay provide kartay hein mein MIDDLE CLASS ki aik parhi likhi aurat hoon Chahoon tu ek achi job kar sakti hoon ....magar mein nay apnay ap Ko Khud Mehdood kia hai kion k mein iss baaray mein
ISLAM ko deykhti hoon ...Being a MUSLIM ....hamein yeh hidyata hai k ...DEEN mein jo loag aap se ooper hein ONN ko deykho ...aur DUNIYA mein jo loag AAP se neechay hein ONN ko deykho....hamarai personality tabhi improve kar sakti hai...jab hum apni hadoun mein rahein ..na k khawab poray karnay k liyay …umm!!!!!!!!!!
Alahmdolillah mein zindgee se kabhi MAYOOS nahi ...KION K mein nay SHUKAR ki RAAAH apnaai :) ..

Aap kahein gee k mein apni baat kar rahi hoon . yehan mein nay aap ko apni misal iss liyay dee k mein apnay baray mein achay se janti hoon aur apnay jaisi aur khawaten ko b ..jahan tak mayoosi ki baat hai …mein haqeeqatan aisia khawateen ko b janti hoon jo mulazmat karti hein magar mayoos hein iss liyay
k wo equally job karnay k ba-wajood ossi tarah se well paid nahi hein Kion aap saaari duniya mein deykh lein k …auratoun ko salary ossi post per kum milti hai,…jis post per agar mard ho tu wo ziyada salary hasil karta hai ..mein pakistan mein government k grades ki baat nahi karti..:) aal over the world ki baat hai !:)

...Laikin yeh haqeeqat hai jo khatoon ..ghar per hein wo Buhat mutmaein hein ..KIon k wo apnay shoahar ya bhai ya walid k provided secure dar o deewar mein safe hein ...WO bahir jaati hein Ghoomti hein magar apni hadd mein reh kar ...wo zindgee se lutf andoz hoti hein ...KION K Wo mehfooz hein ...


aap SHARAFT ko jaanch nahi saktien ..aaap ki niyat ek dum Clear hai aap JOB iss liyay karti hein k aap apnay waqt ka masraf ( jo aap k khiyal mein mulazmat karnay se hai) acha rakhein magar Jahan aap kam karti hein wahan parhay likhay EDUCATED MEN kia kia soachtay hein ……wo onn k mathay per tu nahi na likha!

Aanchal
30th October 2007, 21:02
yehan aap baat ko doosri janib ley gaein...Aanchal jee yehan male aur femal ki discussion har giz nahi ..mera kehna jo tha wo maqsad yeh tha k ...Khawateen agar dr na b houn tu tu b kaam chal sakta hai ..iss ka matlab aap doosri jaanib lay gaein ... anyway ziyadti ki baat ko deykha ja-ay tu jo khawateen doctors ziyadti karti hein wo agar aap ko zikr karoon tu janay baat kahan se kahan puhanch ja-ay ...hamein yehan paisay ko discuss nahi karna job wali khawteen ko discuss karna hai !

main baat ko kahi nahi lay ja rahi vohi main :D: aap ka point hai female kay doc honay say koi faraq nahi parta ..mera point of view hai beshak Male jitnay achay doc houn female ki jaga ab bhi khali hai woh female doc ki jaga nahi lay saktay :na:
ghar say bahir nikloo mard hi mard har jaga ....ab female ko bhi ana chaye ...or is main koi boori nahi hai :lpop:
JANAB AAP HE KA KEHNA K ZAMAAN BUHAT FAST HAI :) iss baray mein kia arz karoon aur !
jab aurat mard k sath offices mein kaam kar sakti hein tu college ya universities mein onn se parh kion nahi saktein?:D:

parhye parh kay pher job karey or khud parhaye :lpop:

Aanchal
30th October 2007, 21:05
shok me job karna burai nahi he lekin isi shok shok me aap janti hen k males ki job ke leay jobs ka aik masla ban chuka he.bohat sari jaghon par khawateen ne mardon ka haq ghasab kar rakha he or asal zarurat mand mard jinhon ne aik puri family chalani hoti he un ko jobs nahi mil paten.

yeh mehza mardoun ka aik bahana hota hai kay femal ki waja say un ko job nahi mill saktien ...jinhoo nay mehnat ki hoti hai unhay mehnat ka phal zaror milta hai female chaye lakh jobs main a jaian mardoun ki apni jaga hai woh unhay milti hain agar mehnat karian to ....parhai main deekhian khawateen mardoun say agay nikal rahi hain to ab jobs bhi usi hissab say unhay millian gee na :D:

Aanchal
30th October 2007, 21:06
hmmmm i think keh aurat majboor b hoti hai na.....ais liye us ko sab kerna parta hai sab k liye....wo apni marzi b ker sakti hai...but phir ya tu loog us ko acha nahi samhjtay ya phir.....us ko akila he chor detay hain keh jao ker lo apni marzi...so aurat ko yeh sab kerna he parta hai majboori main ya jesay b....

yeh pher zabardasti wali baat hoo jati hai na kay jesa husband chaye , mushara chaye wesay aurat ko banaoo ..aurat ki apni marzi ka khayal to nahi reakha jata na :donno:

Aanchal
30th October 2007, 21:42
well aurat ko gahar say jesay b ya jis b halaat main nikalna parta hai....lakin hamara mashra aisa hai keh....jo b aurat beshaik wo majboor hai ye jesay b...koi b usay achi nigah say nahi dekhta...yeh tu ab sab jantay he hain..or mantay b hain....beshaik zamanay nay buhat taraqi ki hai...but still loog aisay he sochtay hain.....

or dosri baat....ik aurat....kisi ki maan,behan,beti,baho or biwi b hoti hai....so in main say koi b realation yeh sunana kabhi pasand nahi karay ga..keh haan ji ais ki behan,beti,baho,biwi ya maan...kaam kerti hai...ya koi b aisi waisi baat...koi b nahi sun sakta...so ais liye b loog aurton ka kaam kerna na pasand he kertay hain.....jab keh aurat ka kaam kerna koi itna bura kaam nahi hai....


yeh jo loog kehtay hain aurat yeh na karay woh na karey koi job na karey ...majboori par jaye yehi loog sab say pehlay peachay hattay hian .....aik aurat ko khud hi shadi say pehlay hi apnay aap ko set karna chaye takay zindagi main agay chal kar kisi ki muhtaaji na hoo ..

Aanchal
30th October 2007, 21:48
mery institute main aik larki the ...bus main ati the kafi pedal bhi chalna parta tha ....3 saal bad mujhay aik shadi pay milli ..woh khud driving kar kay ai the..:) us nay job kar li the or apna life style theek thaak bana lia tha ..no tension ....

main yeh to nahi kehti zabardasti job karey ...job karian shok say pasand say or apni zindagi behtar banian kisi ki muhtaaj na reahian ...

Gul
30th October 2007, 21:52
yeh jo loog kehtay hain aurat yeh na karay woh na karey koi job na karey ...majboori par jaye yehi loog sab say pehlay peachay hattay hian .....aik aurat ko khud hi shadi say pehlay hi apnay aap ko set karna chaye takay zindagi main agay chal kar kisi ki muhtaaji na hoo ..
:) sirf ek muskarahat :) :rose :wk

Gul
30th October 2007, 21:53
mery institute main aik larki the ...bus main ati the kafi pedal bhi chalna parta tha ....3 saal bad mujhay aik shadi pay milli ..woh khud driving kar kay ai the..:) us nay job kar li the or apna life style theek thaak bana lia tha ..no tension ....

main yeh to nahi kehti zabardasti job karey ...job karian shok say pasand say or apni zindagi behtar banian kisi ki muhtaaj na reahian ...

OH dear ! :)
Claps and cheers for that lady jis nay jo chaha oss ko mil giya :)

Aanchal
30th October 2007, 21:54
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agr hum log is baat k liay sure nahi hain k future main khwateen ko job ki zarort par sakti hay to is baat ke kia guarenty hay k usay job ki zarort nahi pary ge...jab lrkian job k qabil ho jati hain tab he job krti hain i mean to say that tab unhain itni smajh to hoti he hay k unhain kia krna hay or kia nahi un k liay ia munasib ho ga or kia nahi or sab say bari yeh baat jo k app nay kahe hay usay road to cross krna he ata ho ga na....aisi baat nahi hay k khwateen ko job ke aadat honie chahiay baat to sirf experience ke hay jo k woh kisi bhi wqt use kr sakti hay:)

:thmbup:
agar larkoun ko achay boray ki tameez seekha di jaye to zindagi main koi ghalat kaam nahi karian gee ...or job bhi karian gee to humesha sahi rasta hi chunian gee ...pehlay say job karti houn gee to jab zarorat pari to koi masla nahi hoo ga unhay ....

Aanchal
30th October 2007, 22:09
Asslam o Alycum All :salam:

Jia u r absolutely right, baaz jagah aisa hota hai ke kisi ghar mein koi mard he nehi hota, tu wahan ladies kia karein ge..... unhe majboran kaam kaj karna pare ga.

aur reh gaye baat ke jo aurtein job karti hain, wo apne bachoon ke tarbiat sahi nhi kar sakti tu ye totally ghalat hai, ham ne kai aise families dekhi hain ke jin ke aurtein well educated hain, job nehi karti laiken un ke bacha studies mein bilkul dull hote hain, jab ke aik aise aurat jis ke qualification bhi normal hoti hai wo job bhi karti hai and saath mein bache bhi sanbhalti hai tu us ke bache sab se laiq hote hain (agar aap kaho tu mein aise kai examples dikha sakta hoon, balke ap ne bhi kai aise examples dekhi hoon ge).


Khair baqi mein tafseel se apna Reply post karoon ga INshallah.


:thmbup:

yeh jo aurtian majboori main ghar say niklati hain unhay jo jobs milti hain un say loog in ki majbooreoun ka faida utahtay hian ....unhay ilm nahi hota bahir ki dunia kasi hai loog us ka ghalat faida uthatay hian ....
jab kay pehlay say agar woh job kar rahi hoti to yeh majboori na ati or job kar kay andaza hoo jata hai koon si job ghalat hai koon si sahi ..or kis kisem kay logoo say kesay deal karna hai kin ko avoid karna hai ....or majboori main jo job ki jaye gee us main us aurat ko jo bhi job mill gai usay karni parti hoo gee ..


or dosri baat bhi aap ki sahi hai ghar main sab kuch honay kay bawajood , or aurtoun kay job na karnay kay bawajood bhi bachay parhai main dull nikal atay hain ...aisi ladies aksar Starplus kay dramoun main waqat guzarti hian :khi:..starplus main waqat zaya karnay ki bajye kisi achi job main yeh time laga dia jaye to zaida behtar hai :)

Soulmate
30th October 2007, 22:36
bilkul Aanchal sis i am totally agree with u

and aise aurtein ya tu Star Plus ke darame dekhte hai ye fer wo mashoor hai na ke Khali Dimagh shaitaan ka ghar hota hai tu ye phir dosri aurtoon ke khilaf sazishein karte rehte hain

Gul
30th October 2007, 22:59
:thmbup:
agar larkoun ko achay boray ki tameez seekha di jaye to zindagi main koi ghalat kaam nahi karian gee ...or job bhi karian gee to humesha sahi rasta hi chunian gee ...pehlay say job karti houn gee to jab zarorat pari to koi masla nahi hoo ga unhay ....

:) .....Kia kahoun ab mein :) .....
Larkon ki tarbiyat .....yehan kahan se aa gai baba!?:) hmm yeh zaroor ho sakta hai k jab aik MOTHER working ho tu wo olaad ko sahi se time nahi dey sakay gee tu .............!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:

Gul
30th October 2007, 23:16
Asslam o Alycum All

Jia u r absolutely right, baaz jagah aisa hota hai ke kisi ghar mein koi mard he nehi hota, tu wahan ladies kia karein ge..... unhe majboran kaam kaj karna pare ga.

aur reh gaye baat ke jo aurtein job karti hain, wo apne bachoon ke tarbiat sahi nhi kar sakti tu ye totally ghalat hai, ham ne kai aise families dekhi hain ke jin ke aurtein well educated hain, job nehi karti laiken un ke bacha studies mein bilkul dull hote hain, jab ke aik aise aurat jis ke qualification bhi normal hoti hai wo job bhi karti hai and saath mein bache bhi sanbhalti hai tu us ke bache sab se laiq hote hain (agar aap kaho tu mein aise kai examples dikha sakta hoon, balke ap ne bhi kai aise examples dekhi hoon ge).


Khair baqi mein tafseel se apna Reply post karoon ga INshallah.


:) Mujhay sachi mein hansi aa rahi hai ...:) ....Sorry i dont want to b rude but ..i am sorry i dont to hurt even ! ...
laikin kitnay mazay ki baat kahi na ...highly educated ....and bachay naalaik ..aur normall educated magar bachay la-eiq ....yeh tu charaagh talay andheray wali baat aa ga`i naa ......aur aap deykh lein chahragh jala kar aisa hee hota hai :)

ok ab serious ...! :blush:

yehan Brother SUPER COP nay kaha k ..highly educated khawateen ...Sahib yeh status k topic mein ataa hai .....High standard of lives spend karnay aur apany status ko aagay se aagay barhaanay mein ...WELL EDUCATED khawateen ..apnay gharoun per time nahi deyti KION K onn ko ghar mein rehna hee nahi na onn ko modern hona hai TIME SE agagy niklana hai ..WO WAQT AUR ZAMANAY ko jis had tak BIGAAR chuki hein aakhir oss ko nibhana b tu hai na onhein ..tu who cares k ghar mein bachay maids and helpers se kia seekh rahay hein ....
(yeh ek alag issue hai .........! iss per b AANchi jee kabhi koi debate rakhiyay ga :)..)

Misaalein tu bohat bhiyaa ...magar koi samjhay tu na ..:) hamary aaas passs kai masbat aur manfi misaalein moojood hein ....kai ek tu share ki meinn ay :)...
anyway ....hum ko TOPIC per behass karna hai ..K



KIA WOEMEN KO JOB KARNI CHAIYAY ..
yehan per iss ziman mein yeh zikr har giz nahi k ....jis ghar mein mard nahi wahan aurat ko mulazmat karni chhaiay ya nahi....KION k ..wahan tu valid reason hai na ..bhikari tu nahi banay gee aurat....kama k hee apnay behanoun ya maa ko khila-ay gee naa...
yeh b ek alag issue hai ..
baat yeh hai k ... @TOPIC k ....hum sawal kia kar rahay hein .....CHAHIYAY ? ya NAHI CHAHIYAY ...

hum yeh sawal tab kartay hein jab hamein khud maloom ho k yeh kam lazmi nahi ...karna chahiyay ya nahi ...
kia hum khanay k baray mein yeh soachtay hein k kahan chahiyay ya nahi ...jab tak hamein bhook hai hamein khana hai warna bad-hazmi ho sakti hay na !!!!!!!!!! jab Bhook ho tab khana kahan lazim hai ...haan hum ko yeh soachna hai aaj mujhay raat jaag k parhna chhaiyay k nahi ...kion k raat tu soany k liyay hai ..magar shyd mein raat mein ziyada sakoon se parh loon gee ..nisbatan DIN k ..halan k mein yeh janti hon k mein agar raat ko jagoon gee tu din ko university ya college mein mein itni attentive nahi reh sakti ..magar mein iss k baaray mein koi daliil doon gee khud ko ...bas yehi yehan per TOPIC hai .... I HOPE U GOT MY POINT :)

Gul
30th October 2007, 23:18
Thanx Shakh-e Tamnnah je ...!:) ...U R DOING WELL....aap ki kai points kafi masbat hein :)

Gul
30th October 2007, 23:19
agreed Gul:thmbup::phool:or inpage me likh kar to kamal kar dia:)


Thanx dear ! :) ....

Gul
30th October 2007, 23:27
:thmbup:

yeh jo aurtian majboori main ghar say niklati hain unhay jo jobs milti hain un say loog in ki majbooreoun ka faida utahtay hian ....unhay ilm nahi hota bahir ki dunia kasi hai loog us ka ghalat faida uthatay hian ....
jab kay pehlay say agar woh job kar rahi hoti to yeh majboori na ati or job kar kay andaza hoo jata hai koon si job ghalat hai koon si sahi ..or kis kisem kay logoo say kesay deal karna hai kin ko avoid karna hai ....or majboori main jo job ki jaye gee us main us aurat ko jo bhi job mill gai usay karni parti hoo gee ..


or dosri baat bhi aap ki sahi hai ghar main sab kuch honay kay bawajood , or aurtoun kay job na karnay kay bawajood bhi bachay parhai main dull nikal atay hain ...aisi ladies aksar Starplus kay dramoun main waqat guzarti hian :khi:..starplus main waqat zaya karnay ki bajye kisi achi job main yeh time laga dia jaye to zaida behtar hai :)


bilkul Aanchal sis i am totally agree with u

and aise aurtein ya tu Star Plus ke darame dekhte hai ye fer wo mashoor hai na ke Khali Dimagh shaitaan ka ghar hota hai tu ye phir dosri aurtoon ke khilaf sazishein karte rehte hain
very Sad story SUPER COP...::D: agar wo darama na deykhein tu shayd onn ka damagh khali ziyada rahay ga naa :khi:acha hai agar wo sabzi kat-tay ..ya karhaai kartay ...ya ...aap k liyay samosay banatay koi darama hee deykh lein :) aap ko b mazay k kahnay mil jaein gay na ..and onn ka b taym pass ::) ho ja-ay ga :D:

umm@topic ...siyasi..khel har jagah hein ..Offices mein tu had se ziyada siyasat hai......agar kisi boss nay kisi secretary per kuch mehrbaani dikha de kisi b wajh se niyat achi thee ya Buri ...tu baqi k sab ,,,loag aur specially koi doosri khatoon ..kia kia siysat karti houngee ...:) yeh siyasat ka khel tu hamaray moashray mein lahoo ban k dorta hai ...oss k bian hamari society na mukamal hai ...( iss ka yeh matlab nahi k I am in favor of this type of politics or of any kind...) but aisa hota hai so ..gahr mein rehnay wali khawateen hee sirf siyaasat ka shikar nahi ..office mein jaanay wali ....b iss se Mehfooz nahi aur phir oss mein jab ghair mard b shamil ho jaein tu ............! siyasat ka rang...........KIA HO GA!?:cc:

Shakh-e-Tamana
31st October 2007, 13:06
Thanx Shakh-e Tamnnah je ...!:) ...U R DOING WELL....aap ki kai points kafi masbat hein :)



thnx Gul ji:phool:

Shakh-e-Tamana
31st October 2007, 13:08
yeh pher zabardasti wali baat hoo jati hai na kay jesa husband chaye , mushara chaye wesay aurat ko banaoo ..aurat ki apni marzi ka khayal to nahi reakha jata na :donno:


well ap me ko ik baat bataien......ager urat apni marzi karay gi kisi ki nahi sunay go...us ko perwa nahi ho gi husband ki....musharay ki.....koi us ko izat day ga? bataien.......

Shakh-e-Tamana
31st October 2007, 13:11
yeh jo loog kehtay hain aurat yeh na karay woh na karey koi job na karey ...majboori par jaye yehi loog sab say pehlay peachay hattay hian .....aik aurat ko khud hi shadi say pehlay hi apnay aap ko set karna chaye takay zindagi main agay chal kar kisi ki muhtaaji na hoo ..



ya me yahi keh rahi hoon na keh....shadi say pehlay ager wo khud ko establish kerna chahti hai tu ker lay...job kerna chahaye tu ker lay....but after shadi......i dont think so keh.....us ko job kerni chahiye......jab tak us ko zaroort na ho....


her baat insaan apni marzi per nahi chor sakta na..keh us ki apni marzi kaya hai....jab ais duniya main rehna hai tu..apnay ird gird ka b khayal rakhna chahiye.....

Soulmate
31st October 2007, 13:14
:) Mujhay sachi mein hansi aa rahi hai ...:) ....Sorry i dont want to b rude but ..i am sorry i dont to hurt even ! ...
laikin kitnay mazay ki baat kahi na ...highly educated ....and bachay naalaik ..aur normall educated magar bachay la-eiq ....yeh tu charaagh talay andheray wali baat aa ga`i naa ......aur aap deykh lein chahragh jala kar aisa hee hota hai :)

ok ab serious ...! :blush:

yehan Brother SUPER COP nay kaha k ..highly educated khawateen ...Sahib yeh status k topic mein ataa hai .....High standard of lives spend karnay aur apany status ko aagay se aagay barhaanay mein ...WELL EDUCATED khawateen ..apnay gharoun per time nahi deyti KION K onn ko ghar mein rehna hee nahi na onn ko modern hona hai TIME SE agagy niklana hai ..WO WAQT AUR ZAMANAY ko jis had tak BIGAAR chuki hein aakhir oss ko nibhana b tu hai na onhein ..tu who cares k ghar mein bachay maids and helpers se kia seekh rahay hein ....
(yeh ek alag issue hai .........! iss per b AANchi jee kabhi koi debate rakhiyay ga :)..)

Misaalein tu bohat bhiyaa ...magar koi samjhay tu na ..:) hamary aaas passs kai masbat aur manfi misaalein moojood hein ....kai ek tu share ki meinn ay :)...
anyway ....hum ko TOPIC per behass karna hai ..K



KIA WOEMEN KO JOB KARNI CHAIYAY ..
yehan per iss ziman mein yeh zikr har giz nahi k ....jis ghar mein mard nahi wahan aurat ko mulazmat karni chhaiay ya nahi....KION k ..wahan tu valid reason hai na ..bhikari tu nahi banay gee aurat....kama k hee apnay behanoun ya maa ko khila-ay gee naa...
yeh b ek alag issue hai ..
baat yeh hai k ... @TOPIC k ....hum sawal kia kar rahay hein .....CHAHIYAY ? ya NAHI CHAHIYAY ...

hum yeh sawal tab kartay hein jab hamein khud maloom ho k yeh kam lazmi nahi ...karna chahiyay ya nahi ...
kia hum khanay k baray mein yeh soachtay hein k kahan chahiyay ya nahi ...jab tak hamein bhook hai hamein khana hai warna bad-hazmi ho sakti hay na !!!!!!!!!! jab Bhook ho tab khana kahan lazim hai ...haan hum ko yeh soachna hai aaj mujhay raat jaag k parhna chhaiyay k nahi ...kion k raat tu soany k liyay hai ..magar shyd mein raat mein ziyada sakoon se parh loon gee ..nisbatan DIN k ..halan k mein yeh janti hon k mein agar raat ko jagoon gee tu din ko university ya college mein mein itni attentive nahi reh sakti ..magar mein iss k baaray mein koi daliil doon gee khud ko ...bas yehi yehan per TOPIC hai .... I HOPE U GOT MY POINT :)



Gul Sister koi kaam ke baat bhi karein :khi:
ye ap kin chakroon mein par gayein hai :donno:

jia
31st October 2007, 13:18
Aap ko waqi link deynay ki zaroorat hai kion k aap meri itni detail ko sahi se yaad nahi rakh paaein naturally wahi baat k wo atachment aap k samnay nahi thee....! kher mein oss detail mein tu har giz nahi jana chahOOn gee ! bass ek baat k ....Shadi k baad jo hona hai ya ..kal Jo hona hai oss k liyay hum amal mein tiyar rehnay k liyay ...oss ka knowledge hasil kartay hein ..right? Road cross karna meinn ay auratoun ko nahi kaha tha ....ek iste`ara use kia tha k ..:) kher Larkiyan beyshak oss age mein hoti hein jab wo job kar sakti hein jab wo SAMJHDAR hoti hein ...aur mein 100% ki baat nahi kar rahi magar MOST OF ki baat kar rahi hoon ..k wo wahi samjhdaar larkiyan ...ghar k halaat ko sudhaar nahi saktien ...magar JOB jo money making hoti hein BUHAT KHOOBSOORAT tareqay se nibha leyti hein.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:):donno:
dear main janti hoon k app nay baat ko samjhany k liay yeh iste'ara ka istemal kia hay.....to mainy bhi app ko usi trhaan jwaab dia:)
or rahi job or ghar samnbhalny ki baat to jo lrkian apny ghar k liay job kr sakte hain woh apny gharoon ko bhi ba'khooobi sanbhal sakti hain...infact woh sanbhalti hain ...mery khiyal main jo smajhdaar lrkiaan hoon ge woh donoon kaam khobsoorti k saath anjaam day sakte hain otherwise unhain smajhdaar nahi kaha ja sakta....agr koi aurat job krti hay to woh money making k liay eh krti hay or usay apny ghar ka pata hota hay k woh araam say ghar jaa kr sab kuch handle kr lay ge kion k ghar wally us ki batoon ko asaani say smajh sakty hain ..laikin rahi baat job k time ke to jab koi job krta hay to whaan us ki mrzi nahi chalti k woh time say pehly ghar chali ja'ay yaan phir time say pehly job say chutti kr lay....or ghar wally to phir hr baat ko smajh sakty hain kion k un k ghar k halat un say chopy nahi hoty...unhain pata hota hay k jo job kary ga usay job k liay ziyada time nikalna ho ga.....agr unhaibn manzoor ho ga to woh un ko job krwa lain gay otherwise nahi....or jo job krti hain un k ghar waloon ko to automaticaly pata hota hay k job k roles bhi hoty hain jo k sab ko follow krny prty hain .....offfice ka kaam humain khud he krna hota hay jo k hr haal main hona cha'he'ay jab k ghar k bary main hum janty hain k kai or log bhi gahr per hain jo k us k hissay ka kaam kr sakty hain........kion k job woh apny ghar k liay kr rahi hay to ghar wally itna to kr he sakty hain????


yehan khawateen k time mangment ki tu baat hee nahi na .. ( Khawateen ki Salahiyutun ko kisi aur debate mein discuss karein gay :) ) Yehan per ONN 20% khawteen ki baat ho rahi hai jo job karti hein..office tu waqt per puhanch jaati hai magar ghar k kaam k liyay onn k pass Time nahi hota ...KION K beychaari thak gaien hein na:)
g haan main janti hoon k yeh khwaaten ke time menegment ke baat nai ho rahi laikin mainy sath he job ke bhi baat ke hay k agr khwateen time ka hissab rkhain geen to hr kaam main asaani ho ge or woh hr kaam kr skain geen:)....laikin kai bachari aisi bhi hain jo k job krny k baawjood apny gharoon ko sanbhalti hain:)...

Soulmate
31st October 2007, 13:19
very Sad story SUPER COP...::D: agar wo darama na deykhein tu shayd onn ka damagh khali ziyada rahay ga naa :khi:acha hai agar wo sabzi kat-tay ..ya karhaai kartay ...ya ...aap k liyay samosay banatay koi darama hee deykh lein :) aap ko b mazay k kahnay mil jaein gay na ..and onn ka b taym pass ::) ho ja-ay ga :D:


Gul jee ap mere baat nehi samjhi shaid :tauba

jia
31st October 2007, 13:25
khwateen ko job zaror krni cha'he'ay laikin is ka mtlb yeh nahi hay k woh sari zindagi job krty he guzar dain ....agr un ko thora bohat experience ho ga job k bary main to woh kisi bhi wqt job kr sakti hain or agr unhain aisa koi chance na milla to woh zarorat k wqt bhi job nahi kr sakain geen:(......

jia
31st October 2007, 13:37
umm@topic ...siyasi..khel har jagah hein ..Offices mein tu had se ziyada siyasat hai......agar kisi boss nay kisi secretary per kuch mehrbaani dikha de kisi b wajh se niyat achi thee ya Buri ...tu baqi k sab ,,,loag aur specially koi doosri khatoon ..kia kia siysat karti houngee ...:) yeh siyasat ka khel tu hamaray moashray mein lahoo ban k dorta hai ...oss k bian hamari society na mukamal hai ...( iss ka yeh matlab nahi k I am in favor of this type of politics or of any kind...) but aisa hota hai so ..gahr mein rehnay wali khawateen hee sirf siyaasat ka shikar nahi ..office mein jaanay wali ....b iss se Mehfooz nahi aur phir oss mein jab ghair mard b shamil ho jaein tu ............! siyasat ka rang...........KIA HO GA!?:cc:

:cc:mera khiyal hay k hum log siyasat ke baat nahi kr rahy hum log yeh baat kr rahy hain k khwateen ko job krni cha'he'ay yaan nahi:blush:...:)
khair us dusri khatoon ke wajahs ay hum log kmana chod dain?kia us aik khatoon ek wajah say saro khatoon kaam nahi kr sakteen?agr woh aik aurat eh aisi soch rakhny wali hay to is ka mtlb yeh nahi hay k baqe jo kaam krny wali khwateen hay wph gharoon main bhooki baithi rhain geen k us aurat nay us ko aisa kaha hay????....ho ga kuch nahi bas jo dr ja;ain geen or us aik aurat ko moon tor jwab nahi dain geen woh apny gharoon main bhooki marain geen or jo koi smajhdaar ho ge woh us ki baat ka jwaab bhi day ge or apni job bhi countinue rkhay ge:)...or job k liay sirf aik he company nahi hoti k agr yhaan par kisi nay kuch keh dia to kaheen or koi job nahi millay ge......:donno:...achi companies bhi hoti hain jhaan par aisa kuch nahi hota k khwateen ko kisi bhi trhaan ke baat sun'ni pary

Gul
31st October 2007, 13:50
Gul Sister koi kaam ke baat bhi karein :khi:
ye ap kin chakroon mein par gayein hai :donno:
KAAM KI BAAT HI TU SAMJH MEIN NAHI AATI NA AAP K COP BHAI SAHIB ...ab kia kiya ja-ay ! :)
Meray chakar ko chorein jo baat kahi gai`i hai na bhai Jee oss ko samjhiyay ....humble request hai k apnay quoted part ko b parhiyay jo aap nay jazbaati ho k likha magar shayd yaad nahi :):):):)


Gul jee ap mere baat nehi samjhi shaid :tauba

DONT WORRY ab aap ki samjh k aagay meri samjh kahan chalnay waali hai aap ziyada tension nahi lein plz..sehat per acha asar nahi paray gaa !:):):comfort:

Plz avoid to repeat one thing again and again ....!:rolleyes:

jia
31st October 2007, 13:59
chalein aap nay yeh tu mana k JIA sahiba ki baat ! gahlat hoi k life mein set hoany k baad yani aftre shadi wo job chore sakti hein ..:) Fully MARD per depend kar k ..jab k wo ..tu shadi k baad mulazmat ki liyay tiyar honay ki baat kar rahi thee jaisay maan apni beyti ko ghar gharsti sikhaati hai ...wesay MULAZMAT B karna sikhana chahiyay yeh ONN ki posts se Zahir hota hai :)
OoOh dear app to meri batoon ko dil per he lay gai hain:khi:.....mainy yeh nahi kaha k aurtoon ko job sikhani cha'he'ay ...oh dear sis yeh koi seekhany wali baat nahi hay mainy experience ke baat ke hay yeh nahi kaha k unhain job seekhani cha'he'ay ...or rahi shadi k bad job chodny ke baat to mainy yeh kahan kaha hay k shadi k baad aurat ko zaroor job krni chahiay...infact mainy to kaha hay k aurtoon ko is mushkil wqt k liay tiyar rehna chaheay jis ke wajah say unhain job krni per sakte hay:(....meri posts say yeh zahir nahi hota k job seekhani chaheay bl k yeh zahir hota hay k aurtoon ko job krni cha'he'ay.....:eye:

Shakh-e-Tamana
31st October 2007, 14:07
khwateen ko job zaror krni cha'he'ay laikin is ka mtlb yeh nahi hay k woh sari zindagi job krty he guzar dain ....agr un ko thora bohat experience ho ga job k bary main to woh kisi bhi wqt job kr sakti hain or agr unhain aisa koi chance na milla to woh zarorat k wqt bhi job nahi kr sakain geen:(......



ya agree wid u jani:phool:...aqal baat ker he leti ho kabhi kabhi u b:eye:

jia
31st October 2007, 14:10
ya agree wid u jani:phool:...aqal baat ker he leti ho kabhi kabhi u b:eye:
Thanx dear:phool:

Gul
31st October 2007, 14:17
dear main janti hoon k app nay baat ko samjhany k liay yeh iste'ara ka istemal kia hay.....to mainy bhi app ko usi trhaan jwaab dia:)
or rahi job or ghar samnbhalny ki baat to jo lrkian apny ghar k liay job kr sakte hain woh apny gharoon ko bhi ba'khooobi sanbhal sakti hain.

:) SAKTI HEIN ki baat hai na janab tu mera b man-na hai k aurat sab kuch kar sakti hai ....magar baat yeh ho rahi hai k wo aisa karti nahi ..
kion k aisa mumikn nahi .....baat ki ghambeerta ko deykheiyay aur ek request hai k ..plz jo meri post ki gai urdu doc. hai ghur se parhiyay , oss mein kafi kuch samjhnay ko hai jo aap nay nahi parha! and then try to get my points ...:)




..infact woh sanbhalti hain ...mery khiyal main jo smajhdaar lrkiaan hoon ge woh donoon kaam khobsoorti k saath anjaam day sakte hain otherwise unhain smajhdaar nahi kaha ja sakta...Yehan per zara ghuor kijay har baat mein aap agar aur kar sakti hein ko use kar rahi hein ....agar hona chahya tu kia nahi ho sakta :) magar baat yeh k hota nahi na ...! :blush:



.agr koi aurat job krti hay to woh money making k liay eh krti hay or usay apny ghar ka pata hota hay k woh araam say ghar jaa kr sab kuch handle kr lay ge kion k ghar wally us ki batoon ko asaani say smajh sakty hain ..laikin rahi baat job k time ke to jab koi job krta hay to whaan us ki mrzi nahi chalti k woh time say pehly ghar chali ja'ay yaan phir time say pehly job say chutti kr lay....or ghar wally to phir hr baat ko smajh sakty hain kion k un k ghar k halat un say chopy nahi hoty...unhain pata hota hay k jo job kary ga usay job k liay ziyada time nikalna ho ga.....agr unhaibn manzoor ho ga to woh un ko job krwa lain gay otherwise nahi....or jo job krti hain un k ghar waloon ko to automaticaly pata hota hay k job k roles bhi hoty hain jo k sab ko follow krny prty hain .....offfice ka kaam humain khud he krna hota hay jo k hr haal main hona cha'he'ay jab k ghar k bary main hum janty hain k kai or log bhi gahr per hain jo k us k hissay ka kaam kr sakty hain........kion k job woh apny ghar k liay kr rahi hay to ghar wally itna to kr he sakty hain????

Yehan tu baat ghar waloun k compromise aa gai na ....yehan oss aurat ka kia kirdar i mean amal howa jo JOB karti hai ..yeh qudrati baat hai k ghar walay hee suffer kartay hein aur compromise b ...har haal mein ...baat yeh dear SISTER k WO AURAT MANAGE karay jo nokri kar rahi hai ...ghar walay tu karein gee heeeeeeeeeeeeee! :eye:




g haan main janti hoon k yeh khwaaten ke time menegment ke baat nai ho rahi laikin mainy sath he job ke bhi baat ke hay k agr khwateen time ka hissab rkhain geen to hr kaam main asaani ho ge or woh hr kaam kr skain geen:)....laikin kai bachari aisi bhi hain jo k job krny k baawjood apny gharoon ko sanbhalti hain:)...

What To say about all these agars and kar sakti ....!


khwateen ko job zaror krni cha'he'ay laikin is ka mtlb yeh nahi hay k woh sari zindagi job krty he guzar dain ....agr un ko thora bohat experience ho ga job k bary main to woh kisi bhi wqt job kr sakti hain or agr unhain aisa koi chance na milla to woh zarorat k wqt bhi job nahi kr sakain geen:(......


Iss mein itna sad face bana-nay ki kia zaroorat hai ....Aap ko khawateen ki abilities per shak nahi karna chahiyay ...yaqeen hona chhaiyay ..k wo haar haalat ka saman har dum kar sakti hein oss k liyay practice k zarorrat nahi ...detail baad mein abhi meri fajar ki namaz qaza na ho ja-ay :) ... keep smiling jia jee and be strong ...!:stars:

jia
31st October 2007, 14:44
:) SAKTI HEIN ki baat hai na janab tu mera b man-na hai k aurat sab kuch kar sakti hai ....magar baat yeh ho rahi hai k wo aisa karti nahi ..
kion k aisa mumikn nahi .....baat ki ghambeerta ko deykheiyay aur ek request hai k ..plz jo meri post ki gai urdu doc. hai ghur se parhiyay , oss mein kafi kuch samjhnay ko hai jo aap nay nahi parha! and then try to get my points ...:)

to theek hay dear is main itna preshan hony ki kia baat hay app smajh lo k mainy kaheen per bhi sakti hain or ager use nahi kia:khi:
tab to koi problem nahi ho ge naaaaa:)
dear sis mainy app ki woh post bohat gaur say perhi hay or samjhi bhi hoon k us main kia hay or kia nahi hay:)



Yehan tu baat ghar waloun k compromise aa gai na ....yehan oss aurat ka kia kirdar i mean amal howa jo JOB karti hai ..yeh qudrati baat hai k ghar walay hee suffer kartay hein aur compromise b ...har haal mein ...baat yeh dear SISTER k WO AURAT MANAGE karay jo nokri kar rahi hai ...ghar walay tu karein gee heeeeeeeeeeeeee! :eye:




[quote]g haan main janti hoon k yeh khwaaten ke time menegment ke baat nai ho rahi laikin mainy sath he job ke bhi baat ke hay kjab khwateen time ka hissab rkhain geen to hr kaam main asaani ho ge or woh hr kaam ba'asaani kr lain geen:)....laikin kai bachari aisi bhi hain jo k job krny k baawjood apny gharoon ko sanbhalti hain:)...
ab theek hay ab to main kisi qisam ka shaq nahi kr rahi na:)

jia
31st October 2007, 14:49
Iss mein itna sad face bana-nay ki kia zaroorat hai ....Aap ko khawateen ki abilities per shak nahi karna chahiyay ...yaqeen hona chhaiyay ..k wo haar haalat ka saman har dum kar sakti hein oss k liyay practice k zarorrat nahi ...detail baad mein abhi meri fajar ki namaz qaza na ho ja-ay :) ... keep smiling jia jee and be strong ...!:stars:
sad isliay hoon k app meri baat nahi maan raheen:wk..k aurtoon ko job krni cha'se'ay:eye:
or rahi baat khwateen ke abilities per shaq ke to dear sahi lafzoon main app un ki abilities ko aik limit tk mehdood kr rahi hain....g haan woh hr haal main hr halat ka samnaa kr sakti hay mainy kab kaha k woh nahi kr sati:cc:laikin us ko kal k liay kuch samaan to kr k rakhna cha'he'ay na...jo k app keh rahi hain k nahi hona cha'he'ay to main sad face he bnaoo ge or kia karoon ge:(

Gul
31st October 2007, 14:57
bilkul Aanchal sis i am totally agree with u

and aise aurtein ya tu Star Plus ke darame dekhte hai ye fer wo mashoor hai na ke Khali Dimagh shaitaan ka ghar hota hai tu ye phir dosri aurtoon ke khilaf sazishein karte rehte hain


:cc:mera khiyal hay k hum log siyasat ke baat nahi kr rahy hum log yeh baat kr rahy hain k khwateen ko job krni cha'he'ay yaan nahi:blush:...:)



Sazish aur Siyasat ek hee baat hoi naa..!:rose


khair us dusri khatoon ke wajahs ay hum log kmana chod dain?kia us aik khatoon ek wajah say saro khatoon kaam nahi kr sakteen?agr woh aik aurat eh aisi soch rakhny wali hay to is ka mtlb yeh nahi hay k baqe jo kaam krny wali khwateen hay wph gharoon main bhooki baithi rhain geen k us aurat nay us ko aisa kaha hay????


Kuch samjh nahi kis aurat ki kia baat ho rahi hai ? AIK AURAT koansi ?


....ho ga kuch nahi bas jo dr ja;ain geen or us aik aurat ko moon tor jwab nahi dain geen woh apny gharoon main bhooki marain geen or jo koi smajhdaar ho ge woh us ki baat ka jwaab bhi day ge or apni job bhi countinue rkhay ge:).


Aap Behna Kuch confused lag rahi hein ....Janay kia kehna tha ur kia keh gaein ....anyway ....ZAROORAT k waqt kaam karna NA GUZEER hai ...oss waqt hum yeh kabhi nahi saochtay ki kia hona CHAIYAY ....oss waqt hum kar guzartay hein Allah aur khud apni zaat per bharosa rakh k ...aap mujhay JOB karnay wali 20% khawateen...mein se 80% k baaray mein baat karein
Jo SIRF LIFE STANDARD High karnay ko ...JOB karti hein ya yeh keh lein apni zarooriyaat ko iss qadar barhaa leyti hein k ONN HEE zarooriyat (FAZOOLIYAT) ki MUhtaaj ho k reh jaati hein ..WO bhooki nahi mar rahi hotein .wo apni zarooratoun jo k fazool hoti hein oss ki ghulami mein job ko nikalti hein ...! just dhiyan dijay iss baat per ..! Zaroorat ....aur lazim mein buhat farq hai dear ! jia jee! :rose



..or job k liay sirf aik he company nahi hoti k agr yhaan par kisi nay kuch keh dia to kaheen or koi job nahi millay ge......:donno:...achi companies bhi hoti hain jhaan par aisa kuch nahi hota k khwateen ko kisi bhi trhaan ke baat sun'ni pary

:) sirf aik muskarahat ! ....
iss jawab k sath k jo b mard hazraat b jobs baar baar change karein onn ki kisi ability per ksi b company ko confidence nahi rehta ....KioN k koi b new EMPLOYERS yeh nahi deykhtay k EMPLOYEE nay pichli itni dher saari jobs kion CHORIEN ....kia wo khatoon yeh kahein gee k jee wahan sab laog oss ko buri nazar se deykhtay thay iss liya job chorna pari....iss per ..Wahan ki admin...... k zehan per kia image banay gaa! :) yeh b zehan mein rakhein naa! :comfort:

Gul
31st October 2007, 15:07
sad isliay hoon k app meri baat nahi maan raheen:wk..k aurtoon ko job krni cha'se'ay:eye:
or rahi baat khwateen ke abilities per shaq ke to dear sahi lafzoon main app un ki abilities ko aik limit tk mehdood kr rahi hain....g haan woh hr haal main hr halat ka samnaa kr sakti hay mainy kab kaha k woh nahi kr sati:cc:laikin us ko kal k liay kuch samaan to kr k rakhna cha'he'ay na...jo k app keh rahi hain k nahi hona cha'he'ay to main sad face he bnaoo ge or kia karoon ge:(


Saaaman OH GOD ...Jia jee koi new baat la-ein naa aap kitni baar iss baat ko dhuraa chuki hein ....and mein kai baar iss baat ko apni daleel k zariyay ..deny kar chuki hoon :) ...
...yeh koi breakfast nahi k subah k liyay bread and egss aaj hee store se la k rakhnay hein ..yeh poori LIFE ki baat hai...
aik khatoon jo u can say 21 ki age se jon karti rahien ..24 years ki age mein shadi hoi yani oss nay qareban 3 saal job ki...oss ko aadat ho gai independed honay ki in the meanings of KHUD KAFEEL....oss k hubby ko ya ghar waloun ko oss ki job se problems hein ...ab wo kia karay ...oss ki life ka ek hissa oss nay khud apni marzi se guzara ..ab wo shadi k baad apnay khawand ak munh deykhay ..gee har cheez k liyay ...oss ko COP karna mushkil ho ga k nahi ....oss k bad hallat kisi b extreme per ja saktay hein ....... haan agar khuda na khwasta ...aisay haalat ban jaaein k oss khatoon ko shadi k bad job karna par ja-ay ....tu oss k liyay sab haalat sazgaar hein aur tab wo job kar sakti hein ...!
aap ka sad face mujhay har giz acha nahi lagta :) kion k that makes me sad too....magar ...........karoon mein kia meri aadat hai muskaranay ki :rose
take it easy ...and try to understand my point ...DONT MAKE UR BEAUTIFUL face SAD .kion k iss face se mein tu raazi honay wali nahi :khi:..Keep smiling....:rose

Gul
31st October 2007, 15:11
ya agree wid u jani:phool:...aqal baat ker he leti ho kabhi kabhi u b:eye:

AQAL KI BAT ! :):) YEH AAP AWAAM hein :eye: ya.............! :rose

Shaim
31st October 2007, 18:02
M Really Sorry I ve joined v late but actually my PC was suffering 4m viral infection :(

but now INSHALLAH Me Here :dua

Shaim
31st October 2007, 18:33
Starting In The Name Of ALLAH :rose

Aj ka topic Aurat or uska mulazmat krna hai......kiya Aurat ko mulazmat krni chahye ya nahi???
Main "NAHI" k haqq mai jaoon gi.......or main apny topic ko kuch is tarah defend krna chaahon gi k......Aurat ka tasawwur hamesha se hamary muas'ry mai "Ghar Ki Zimmedar" ka hi raha hai.....q k Aurat apny ghar k lye buhat ziada caring or zimmydaar hooti hai baat ye nahi k mardon mai ye khoobyan nahi.......mardoon ko bhi ALLAH TAALA ny in tamam senses n feelings se nawaza hai pr mard or Aurat ki zimmedaryon mai buhat fark hai.....
ik Aurat apny ghar ki nighibaan tasawwur ki jaati hai........jab wo student ho tab uski saari tawajju apni studies pr or jb studies complete to usy ik nae ghar ki zimmydaari somp di jaati hai jahan nae ghar k sabhi logon or apny Husband ki zimmydaari us pr hooti hai.

Ab hum us zimmydaari ko zer-e-behes laaaty hain jo k ik Aurat pr hooti hain.
ghar k sabhi kaam waghera.....let suppose apk paas ik full time servent bhi hai even then kuch cheezin aise hooti hain jo ik Aurat jis se sb rishty mansoob hain usy sar-anjaam deni hooti hain......or ager usky paas ik bhi servenmt nahi to sab usy khud hi krna hai isky ilawa sab se ziada xpect ik Aurat se usky Bacchy krty hain jinka poora haqq hoota hai apni Maa'n pr k wo unki nighidasht kary or unhy poori tawajju de specially initial yrs mai........

So in tamaam zimmydaarion k bais ik Aurat job nahi kr sakti........or ager kary to sab hi rishty sab hi zimmydarian buri tarah se mutaa'sir hooti hain....jiski wajah se mera Opinion Khawateen k job NA KARNY k haqq mai jaata hai.....!

Abhi k lye Itna hi.....
baaqi main mazeed justifications k sath aon gi taaky apny topic ko defend kr sakoon

KHUSH RAHYYE
Ma'ASSALAM!

Gul
31st October 2007, 18:48
ab theek hay ab to main kisi qisam ka shaq nahi kr rahi na:)



SHAQ aap per tu har giz nahi ...:)..magar shak aur wehmoun ki shikar aap zarro hein :eye:k agar aaj job na ki aur kal karni par gai tu ...koi problem na ho ja-ay iss liyay abhi se practice .. karein

ek saaf baat kahoon!!!!!!!!!!
Mein B ek aurat hoon .. MAA hoon ..iss ki mujhay ko tarbiyat nahi mili thee jaisay self grooming k courses hotay hein khud ko khoobsoorat tareen bana-nay k ya Cooking ki classes ya ..Computer courses .....yeh jab waqt aata hai na itnay kathin time se aurat khud ba khud qudarati tur per tiyaar ho jaati hai ..hai koi iss kathin kaam? :phool:

Gul
31st October 2007, 18:49
M Really Sorry I ve joined v late but actually my PC was suffering 4m viral infection :(

but now INSHALLAH Me Here :dua

No Problem dear WORRY NOT :) ..bulkeh FIKAR NOT ! :)
aap sahi time per aai hein mujhay b fresh mind ki zaroorat thee ...:) WELCOME :):rose:salam:

Gul
31st October 2007, 18:54
Starting In The Name Of ALLAH :rose

Aj ka topic Aurat or uska mulazmat krna hai......kiya Aurat ko mulazmat krni chahye ya nahi???
Main "NAHI" k haqq mai jaoon gi.......or main apny topic ko kuch is tarah defend krna chaahon gi k......Aurat ka tasawwur hamesha se hamary muas'ry mai "Ghar Ki Zimmedar" ka hi raha hai.....q k Aurat apny ghar k lye buhat ziada caring or zimmydaar hooti hai baat ye nahi k mardon mai ye khoobyan nahi.......mardoon ko bhi ALLAH TAALA ny in tamam senses n feelings se nawaza hai pr mard or Aurat ki zimmedaryon mai buhat fark hai.....
ik Aurat apny ghar ki nighibaan tasawwur ki jaati hai........jab wo student ho tab uski saari tawajju apni studies pr or jb studies complete to usy ik nae ghar ki zimmydaari somp di jaati hai jahan nae ghar k sabhi logon or apny Husband ki zimmydaari us pr hooti hai.

Ab hum us zimmydaari ko zer-e-behes laaaty hain jo k ik Aurat pr hooti hain.
ghar k sabhi kaam waghera.....let suppose apk paas ik full time servent bhi hai even then kuch cheezin aise hooti hain jo ik Aurat jis se sb rishty mansoob hain usy sar-anjaam deni hooti hain......or ager usky paas ik bhi servenmt nahi to sab usy khud hi krna hai isky ilawa sab se ziada xpect ik Aurat se usky Bacchy krty hain jinka poora haqq hoota hai apni Maa'n pr k wo unki nighidasht kary or unhy poori tawajju de specially initial yrs mai........

So in tamaam zimmydaarion k bais ik Aurat job nahi kr sakti........or ager kary to sab hi rishty sab hi zimmydarian buri tarah se mutaa'sir hooti hain....jiski wajah se mera Opinion Khawateen k job NA KARNY k haqq mai jaata hai.....!

Abhi k lye Itna hi.....
baaqi main mazeed justifications k sath aon gi taaky apny topic ko defend kr sakoon

KHUSH RAHYYE
Ma'ASSALAM!

Nice Participation Shaim jee ! :thmbup::yo: Thanx ! for adding more ! :)

Shaim
31st October 2007, 18:59
No Problem dear WORRY NOT :) ..bulkeh FIKAR NOT ! :)

aap sahi time per aai hein mujhay b fresh mind ki zaroorat thee ...:) WELCOME :):rose:salam:



Shukran 4 Ur Warm Welcome sis!
hopefully ab i ll share sum warm n crispy stuff :D

Shaim
31st October 2007, 19:00
Nice Participation Shaim jee ! :thmbup::yo: Thanx ! for adding more ! :)


m going through all stuff shared by u n all
i must say
every 1 iz going v nice :clap:

Aanchal
1st November 2007, 08:51
:) sirf ek muskarahat :) :rose :wk

main nay yehi deekha hai yeh reality hai :blush:

Aanchal
1st November 2007, 08:53
OH dear ! :)
Claps and cheers for that lady jis nay jo chaha oss ko mil giya :)

yep or jo usay mila us ki job say mila warna aaj vohi ki vohi hoti :donno:

Aanchal
1st November 2007, 08:56
:) .....Kia kahoun ab mein :) .....
Larkon ki tarbiyat .....yehan kahan se aa gai baba!?:) hmm yeh zaroor ho sakta hai k jab aik MOTHER working ho tu wo olaad ko sahi se time nahi dey sakay gee tu .............!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:

yeh bhi debate ka hissa hai na :D deekhian main kehna chah rahi houn kay aikaurat ghar main beath kay apna time fazool zaya karey fashion, dramye main khoo kay bachoun ko sahi time pay khana kheelana hi bhool jaye kay akay drama khutem hoo pher uthoun gee ....to yeh sab sahi mana jata hai ...agar woha urat bahir ja kay yeh waqat apni kisi achi job main guzarey or bachoun ko bhi sab kuch time pay day to is ko bora kio samjha jata hai :donno:.......
yeh to vohi baat hovi bad acha badnaam bora :khi:

Aanchal
1st November 2007, 09:03
(yeh ek alag issue hai .........! iss per b AANchi jee kabhi koi debate rakhiyay ga :)..)


ok ji :eye:


yehan per iss ziman mein yeh zikr har giz nahi k ....jis ghar mein mard nahi wahan aurat ko mulazmat karni chhaiay ya nahi....KION k ..wahan tu valid reason hai na ..bhikari tu nahi banay gee aurat....kama k hee apnay behanoun ya maa ko khila-ay gee naa...

mera aiksawal hai aik majboori ki halat main job karey or job main jo maslaye masaailyl houn woh bhi sab theek manye jatay hain kay majboori hai bas ...agar shok say job wali main maslye masayil a jaian to yeh ghalat ,,,job karey hi na aurat ..aisa kio ?:mm:


)
...

Aanchal
1st November 2007, 09:07
well ap me ko ik baat bataien......ager urat apni marzi karay gi kisi ki nahi sunay go...us ko perwa nahi ho gi husband ki....musharay ki.....koi us ko izat day ga? bataien.......

har cheez ki aik limit hoti hai larki ..had say zaida sirf apni khawaishat ko deekhna bhi to ghalat hai ...or kisi ki khawaishat ko daba kay reakhna bhi to sahi nahi :)


tum team A ki hoo ya team B ki ?:hehe:

Aanchal
1st November 2007, 09:11
ya me yahi keh rahi hoon na keh....shadi say pehlay ager wo khud ko establish kerna chahti hai tu ker lay...job kerna chahaye tu ker lay....but after shadi......i dont think so keh.....us ko job kerni chahiye......jab tak us ko zaroort na ho....



vohi to main keh rahi houn kay jab time hai sab kuch hai ghar ko bhi manage kar sakti hai pher kio na karay job ?:tauba
her baat insaan apni marzi per nahi chor sakta na..keh us ki apni marzi kaya hai....jab ais duniya main rehna hai tu..apnay ird gird ka b khayal rakhna chahiye.....

dosroun ko bhi to khayal reakhna chaye :mm:
husband wife sab ko balance hoo kay chalna chaye :rose

Aanchal
1st November 2007, 09:18
or rahi job or ghar samnbhalny ki baat to jo lrkian apny ghar k liay job kr sakte hain woh apny gharoon ko bhi ba'khooobi sanbhal sakti hain...infact woh sanbhalti hain ...mery khiyal main jo smajhdaar lrkiaan hoon ge woh donoon kaam khobsoorti k saath anjaam day sakte hain otherwise unhain smajhdaar nahi kaha ja sakta

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:thmbup:
main nay yeh note kia hai job karnay wali zaida tar larkiyan ghar or bahir donoo ko theek taraha say chala rahi hoti hai or ghar pay rehnay wali zaida tar sirf aik side ki hoo jati hai ..ghar main beshak sab kuch ata hai lekan bahir ki dunia ka unhay kuch nahi pata hota :)

mere aik friend hai job karti hai, ghar ka sara kaam usay ata hai ...job kar kay apnay behan bahoun ko khud hi set kia ..parhai main help karti hai ,..bahir kay saray kaam kar daiti hai .......un kay parents yehi kehtay hian yeh mere sirf beeti nahi beeta bhi hai :D:

:rose

Aanchal
1st November 2007, 09:23
aik baat yeh bhi samnay ai hai survey say kay aurtian apni amdni ka zaidatar hissa apnay ghar pay lagati hain ....

Aanchal
1st November 2007, 09:28
agr koi aurat job krti hay to woh money making k liay eh krti hay or usay apny ghar ka pata hota hay k woh araam say ghar jaa kr sab kuch handle kr lay ge kion k ghar wally us ki batoon ko asaani say smajh sakty hain ..laikin rahi baat job k time ke to jab koi job krta hay to whaan us ki mrzi nahi chalti k woh time say pehly ghar chali ja'ay yaan phir time say pehly job say chutti kr lay....or ghar wally to phir hr baat ko smajh sakty hain kion k un k ghar k halat un say chopy nahi hoty...unhain pata hota hay k jo job kary ga usay job k liay ziyada time nikalna ho ga.....agr unhaibn manzoor ho ga to woh un ko job krwa lain gay otherwise nahi....or jo job krti hain un k ghar waloon ko to automaticaly pata hota hay k job k roles bhi hoty hain jo k sab ko follow krny prty hain .....offfice ka kaam humain khud he krna hota hay jo k hr haal main hona cha'he'ay jab k ghar k bary main hum janty hain k kai or log bhi gahr per hain jo k us k hissay ka kaam kr sakty hain........kion k job woh apny ghar k liay kr rahi hay to ghar wally itna to kr he sakty hain????
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yehi to sab say bara masla hai kay yehi samjha jata hai kay sirf khawateen hi compromise karian ...agar miyan biwi main sahi understanding hai to usay apni wife ki job say kabhi koi masla nahi hoo sakta ....or jab bachay sanbhlnay ki baat ati hai to sirf aurat ko nahi mard ki bhi zimmdari hoti hai bachay ki parwirish :D:

Aanchal
1st November 2007, 09:33
khwateen ko job zaror krni cha'he'ay laikin is ka mtlb yeh nahi hay k woh sari zindagi job krty he guzar dain ....agr un ko thora bohat experience ho ga job k bary main to woh kisi bhi wqt job kr sakti hain or agr unhain aisa koi chance na milla to woh zarorat k wqt bhi job nahi kr sakain geen:(......

:thmbup:
yep main bhi yehi keh rahi houn job karnay ka matlab yeh nahi kay sari zindagi is main lagay rehian ...zindagi ki buhat si stages hoti hai jesay jesay aurat samjah sakti hai kay woh ab job or ghar donoo ko manage kar lay gee zaror karay ...........yeh nahi zarorat sar pay aan parey pher karay ...........zarorat aan pari to pher zaida maslaye hotay hian job karnay main ,...sab say bari baat job dhoudnna ...itna confidence hi nahi rehta un main ...

Aanchal
1st November 2007, 09:35
baki replies bad main :D:

welcome shaim :p bari dair say ai hoo :p chaloo dair aid durst aaid :phool:

AbgeenA
1st November 2007, 13:30
bohat achi behes chal rahi he gud:thmbup:carry on:D:

jia
1st November 2007, 14:26
Saaaman OH GOD ...Jia jee koi new baat la-ein naa aap kitni baar iss baat ko dhuraa chuki hein ....and mein kai baar iss baat ko apni daleel k zariyay ..deny kar chuki hoon :) ...
...yeh koi breakfast nahi k subah k liyay bread and egss aaj hee store se la k rakhnay hein ..yeh poori LIFE ki baat hai...
aik khatoon jo u can say 21 ki age se jon karti rahien ..24 years ki age mein shadi hoi yani oss nay qareban 3 saal job ki...oss ko aadat ho gai independed honay ki in the meanings of KHUD KAFEEL....oss k hubby ko ya ghar waloun ko oss ki job se problems hein ...ab wo kia karay ...oss ki life ka ek hissa oss nay khud apni marzi se guzara ..ab wo shadi k baad apnay khawand ak munh deykhay ..gee har cheez k liyay ...oss ko COP karna mushkil ho ga k nahi ....oss k bad hallat kisi b extreme per ja saktay hein ....... haan agar khuda na khwasta ...aisay haalat ban jaaein k oss khatoon ko shadi k bad job karna par ja-ay ....tu oss k liyay sab haalat sazgaar hein aur tab wo job kar sakti hein ...!
aap ka sad face mujhay har giz acha nahi lagta :) kion k that makes me sad too....magar ...........karoon mein kia meri aadat hai muskaranay ki :rose
take it easy ...and try to understand my point ...DONT MAKE UR BEAUTIFUL face SAD .kion k iss face se mein tu raazi honay wali nahi :khi:..Keep smiling....:rose
Oh GOD dear sis mainy to abhi 2 3 baar aik he baat ko dohraya hay to app us aik eh baat sy ukta gai hain ....kia khwateen apni aik he qisam ke zndagi say nahi ukta sakteen??kia un ka dil nahi krta apny ghar say nikalny ko ???kia us ka dil nahi krta k us ki ruki c zindagi main koi change aa ja'ay ....kia woh apny app ko khud mukhtaar nahi bnana chahteen kia woh nahi chahteen k hum log bhi apny paeroon per khari ho sakeen ?????
main bhi yehi baat app ko samjhana chahti hoon k yeh koi breakfast nahi hay jis k liay hum log raat ko he eggs or milk etc laa kr rakh sakty hain...yeh poori zindagi hay jis main humain koi bhi cheez itni asaani say nahi millti...agr app is aat ke bhi favour main hain k zrorat k wqt krni chaheay to app he btain k jab kisi jo job ke zaroorat ho ge to kia usay un eggs etc ke trhaan aik din pehly he mill ja'ay ge??kia app aik raat main job talash kr sakti hain??????yaan agr app ko job mill bhi ja'ay to app nay sari zindagi job na ke ho or app ko achanak kisi office ka moon daikhna apry ga to app whaan per logoon ak moon daikhain geen...job nahi kr pa'ain geen.....
jab us k ghar waloon ko problem ho to woh job chod day usay kisi hakeem nay to nahi btaya k tum nay sari zindagi job nahi krni:khi:...

agr khwateen job kr bhi lain to kia hrj hay ??????????kia hum apny moashry ke aurtoon per itna bhi trust nahi kr sakteen k woh job kr sakte hain........or is k sath sath woh baqe actinities ko bhi poora kr lain geen?
mujhy to un khwateen per poora yaqeen hay k woh job bhi kr lain geen or apny ghar ko bhi sanbhal lain geen...or rahi baat aik hee baat krny ke to dear sister yhaan per aik he topic dia gia hay debate ka.. jis per humain behas krni hay so woh main kr rahi hoon:)
or main kisi bhi baat say confuse nahi hoti dont u worry and keep smile 2:)

Aanchal
1st November 2007, 16:47
[FONT=Georgia][SIZE=4][COLOR=Indigo][I][FONT=Georgia]aap SHARAFT ko jaanch nahi saktien ..aaap ki niyat ek dum Clear hai aap JOB iss liyay karti hein k aap apnay waqt ka masraf ( jo aap k khiyal mein mulazmat karnay se hai) acha rakhein magar Jahan aap kam karti hein wahan parhay likhay EDUCATED MEN kia kia soachtay hein ……wo onn k mathay per tu nahi na likha!


ok right main aap ki is baat say agree karti houn kay job karnay wali female ko Males say parishnian hoo sakti hain ....lekan yeh maslaye job na karnay wali khawateen ki sath bhi hotay hian :D: bas cheezoun ko handle karna ana chaye ....aik post main aap nay kaha tha aisi ladies ko bus main mard bhi jaga nahi daytay hian ......yeh mardoun ki ghalat tarbeyat hovi na ? unhay jaga nahi deeni to kisi ko bhi nahi daian gay ...ab unhay kia pata yeh aurat job kay leye ja rahi hai ya ghar kay kisi kaam say :)
jis male nay cheerna hota hai kisi female ko woh modern khawateen ko bhi cheer sakta hai or naqaab wali ko bhi ..usay bas larki chaye hoti hai :khi:
job karnay say atleast yeh to pata chal jata hai na kay bahir ki dunia main kis kisem kay loog rehtay hian or aap ko apnay aap ko kesay bacha kay reakhna hai ....:thmbup:

Aanchal
1st November 2007, 16:50
aurtoon ko is mushkil wqt k liay tiyar rehna chaheay jis ke wajah say unhain job krni per sakte hay


:victory:

Gul
1st November 2007, 19:13
yeh bhi debate ka hissa hai na :D deekhian main kehna chah rahi houn kay aik aurat ghar main beath kay apna time fazool zaya karey fashion, dramye main khoo kay bachoun ko sahi time pay khana kheelana hi bhool jaye kay akay drama khutem hoo pher uthoun gee

janab aap k kehan hai k zaman fast hai ::D: tu AAJ KAL tu darmay 4. 4 baar repeat hotay hein is liyay i think kis b khatoon ko yeh problem nahi k darama khatam ho ga tu oth kar kahan dey gee....:lpop:...aur agar aisa nahi ho tu b VCR's ki sahoolat tu ho gee na oss khatoon k pass jo KHAWAND ki kamai per fashion karna afford kar sakti hai to 3ya 4000 pak rupess ka VCR kai maani rakhta hai ..:khi:aanchal jee kuch solid baat karein dear ! :khi:



....to yeh sab sahi mana jata hai ...agar woha urat bahir ja kay yeh waqat apni kisi achi job main guzarey or bachoun ko bhi sab kuch time pay day to is ko bora kio samjha jata hai :donno:.......
yeh to vohi baat hovi bad acha badnaam bora :khi:

BURAAI tab buraaai hoti hai jab oss ko samjha ja-ay ...pehla ghalt kaam hamysha bharii hota hai oss k baad ..... sab aasaan ho jata hai yehan tak k .....BURA hee nahi lagta wo kaam phir..:) hamari society ka yeh problem hee tu hai .....K BURAAI AUR ACHAAI ko panay panay paimaany dey rakhay hein ....! aur yeh b aam baat hai k ek shakhs buraa kaam karay tu wo GUNAAH hai magar jab sara moashra hee wo karnay lagay tu ...zamany aur waqt ki zaroorat keh diya jaata hai ....( i am not taling only about the discussion's issue theer are so many other things , in our society ..) anyway
I AM AMAZED really :eye:
kitna tazaad hai na ....ek aur5at ghar mein daramay deykhnay mein i tna tiem zaya kar deyti hai k wo bachoun ko khana nahi khila saktiiiiiiiiiii
and aik aur jo job kar k oss waqt wapic aati hai jab k oss ka bachay school se wapic aa k ..home work kar rahay hotay ....tu wo bachoun ka buhat khiyal rakh sakti ....hai ! OH MY GOD SO AMAZING ! ........!
NOW AGAIN just a Comfortable smile :) :comfort:

Shaim
1st November 2007, 19:33
Team A ki taraf say main apni debate start karti houn
Bismillah kar kay baat shuru kartay hian :D:

hamara topic hai kia khawateen ko mulazamat karni chaye ? to sab say pehlay humye yeh deekhna chaye kay jo mulazamat ki jati hai us kay kia hasil hota hai ? pesay or apni taleem ka acha istamal ....na pesay kamnay main kio boorai hai na taleem kay istamaal main to pher khawateen jobs kio nahi kar sakti ?:)


pesy ki daur mai bhagty bhagty hi hum ny rishtoon ko faramoosh krna seekha hai.....dekhin Mard n Aurat ager duties divide kr lain to ziada faeda hoota hai e.g Mard job ki responsibility ly n ik Aurat ghar sambhaaly to life mai balance rehta hai....:)

2ndly, taleem ka istimaal wo bachoon ki parwarish or even self developement ki soorat mai utha sakti hai :)
ik illeterate person to khud ko sambhal sakta to babies ko kese sambhaaly gi :)

Gul
1st November 2007, 19:34
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mera aiksawal hai aik majboori ki halat main job karey or job main jo maslaye masaailyl houn woh bhi sab theek manye jatay hain kay majboori hai bas ...agar shok say job wali main maslye masayil a jaian to yeh ghalat ,,,job karey hi na aurat ..aisa kio ?:mm:
.


:)

Deykehin DEAR ! jab sar par parti hai na tu ...insan kia karta wo masal k *gdahay ko b bap *( Lahol wala :drama: ) b man-na parta hai ....
PROBLEMS se khelna aurat ki agar majboori hai tu oss mein tu deen nay b choot dee na aurat ko kai muqamaat per jo fraa-iz hein wo b adaa karnay ki choot...majboori mein koi olti harkat karna se behtar hai k ek idaray mein nokri karay ...phir wo massa-il se b iss liyay niptay gee k oss k pass aur koi way out nahi hai ..magar aik aurat jo mazay mein apnay parents k sath ya apnay hubby k sath reh rahai hai aur Aallah rakhay wo kama k b laa rahay hein tu ..koi tukkk nahi ban-ti k wo .....Phir b kamanay k liyay ja-ay ...aur apnay liyay aur doosroun k liyay problems kahri karya ..bul-keh iss tarah jo haqdaar hein , wo beychaari job ko dhoondhti reh jaaein gee aur yeh khawateen apnay huubyz k asar O rasookh se ..sifarshein laraa k job karein gee aur ................Oh GOD !..........

anyway I hopr u got my point and ur answer ..:)

Gul
1st November 2007, 19:38
har cheez ki aik limit hoti hai larki ..had say zaida sirf apni khawaishat ko deekhna bhi to ghalat hai ...or kisi ki khawaishat ko daba kay reakhna bhi to sahi nahi :)


Aanchal jee ! Khawhishaat ko ki baat ..bari ghambeer hai .....:wk jee hamein apni desires ko dabana chahiyay magar wishes ko zaroor poora karna chahiyay wo b ek Hadd mein reh kar ..aur wo hadd hamein hamaar deen deyta hai ...yeh hum aap sab hee jantay hein agar zaroorat pari tu I will quote them here too :)


tum team A ki hoo ya team B ki ?:hehe:

Yeh sawal nah karein ...yeh wo awaam hein jo momlay ko KOOL down karti hein magar khud Pistti jati hai beychaari :(

:)

Gul
1st November 2007, 19:52
dosroun ko bhi to khayal reakhna chaye :mm:
husband wife sab ko balance hoo kay chalna chaye :rose


:thmbup:
main nay yeh note kia hai job karnay wali zaida tar larkiyan ghar or bahir donoo ko theek taraha say chala rahi hoti hai or ghar pay rehnay wali zaida tar sirf aik side ki hoo jati hai ..ghar main beshak sab kuch ata hai lekan bahir ki dunia ka unhay kuch nahi pata hota :)

mere aik friend hai job karti hai, ghar ka sara kaam usay ata hai ...job kar kay apnay behan bahoun ko khud hi set kia ..parhai main help karti hai ,..bahir kay saray kaam kar daiti hai .......un kay parents yehi kehtay hian yeh mere sirf beeti nahi beeta bhi hai :D:

:rose

Kam karana aata hai NOTE IT DOWN ..::) karti hein ka koi zikar nahi :kr::rose


yehi to sab say bara masla hai kay yehi samjha jata hai kay sirf khawateen hi compromise karian ...agar miyan biwi main sahi understanding hai to usay apni wife ki job say kabhi koi masla nahi hoo sakta ....or jab bachay sanbhlnay ki baat ati hai to sirf aurat ko nahi mard ki bhi zimmdari hoti hai bachay ki parwirish :D:

Aap b Agar use karnay lagein ...agar aisa ho tu na...magar aisa hota nahi na :):lpop:

Mard ki zimadaari bey-shak ...equal hai .magar bachoun ki tarbiyat mein na k ghar k kamoun mein wo alag baat k agar wo kar lein tu onn ko barrAI hai nahi karein tu yeh ziamdaari tu sirf aurat ki hee hai na ... MARD manage kar sakta hai kion k oss ko Job se 7 bajay chutti hoti hai tu oss ko koi aur zimadaari nahi hoti magar ...aurat jab 7 bajay MARDOUN ki tarah gahr mein daakhil ho gee tu oss k jab sab ghar k kamoun ka ambaaar nazar --aa-ay gaa tu kia wo sab kuch sahi tareeqay se kar sakay gee ??NEVER

Gul
1st November 2007, 19:56
pesy ki daur mai bhagty bhagty hi hum ny rishtoon ko faramoosh krna seekha hai.....dekhin Mard n Aurat ager duties divide kr lain to ziada faeda hoota hai e.g Mard job ki responsibility ly n ik Aurat ghar sambhaaly to life mai balance rehta hai....:)

2ndly, taleem ka istimaal wo bachoon ki parwarish or even self developement ki soorat mai utha sakti hai :)
ik illeterate person to khud ko sambhal sakta to babies ko kese sambhaaly gi :)

JEE JEE buhat sahi kaha :) Fully Agreed ...itni se baat inn ki samjh mein nahi aa rahai deykhein na .............:tauba

Aanchal
1st November 2007, 21:20
janab aap k kehan hai k zaman fast hai ::D: tu AAJ KAL tu darmay 4. 4 baar repeat hotay hein is liyay i think kis b khatoon ko yeh problem nahi k darama khatam ho ga tu oth kar kahan dey gee....:lpop:...aur agar aisa nahi ho tu b VCR's ki sahoolat tu ho gee na oss khatoon k pass jo KHAWAND ki kamai per fashion karna afford kar sakti hai to 3ya 4000 pak rupess ka VCR kai maani rakhta hai ..:khi:aanchal jee kuch solid baat karein dear ! :khi:


yeh solid baat hi hai ,,,aap na manian to main kia kar sakti houn :)
main nay khud deekha hai yehs ab :na:


BURAAI tab buraaai hoti hai jab oss ko samjha ja-ay ...pehla ghalt kaam hamysha bharii hota hai oss k baad ..... sab aasaan ho jata hai yehan tak k .....BURA hee nahi lagta wo kaam phir..:) hamari society ka yeh problem hee tu hai .....K BURAAI AUR ACHAAI ko panay panay paimaany dey rakhay hein ....! aur yeh b aam baat hai k ek shakhs buraa kaam karay tu wo GUNAAH hai magar jab sara moashra hee wo karnay lagay tu ...zamany aur waqt ki zaroorat keh diya jaata hai ....( i am not taling only about the discussion's issue theer are so many other things , in our society ..) anyway


borai or achai kay beach main aik bareek si line zaror hoti hai ...yeh to banday pay hai woh koon si raah chunta hai ?:) ...us ki taleem kia usay itna bhi nahi seekhati kay kia sahi hai or kia ghalat ?
I AM AMAZED really :eye:
kitna tazaad hai na ....ek aur5at ghar mein daramay deykhnay mein i tna tiem zaya kar deyti hai k wo bachoun ko khana nahi khila saktiiiiiiiiiii
and aik aur jo job kar k oss waqt wapic aati hai jab k oss ka bachay school se wapic aa k ..home work kar rahay hotay ....tu wo bachoun ka buhat khiyal rakh sakti ....hai ! OH MY GOD SO AMAZING ! ........!
NOW AGAIN just a Comfortable smile :) :comfort:


jinhay zimmdari ka ehsas hota hai woh aurtian in sab batoun ka bhi khayaal reakahti hian :lpop: aap nay jinhay deekha hai woh na kaeti houn ..jinhay main janti houn woh sab theek thaak kaam karti hian ....jab zarorat parey to job ko kuch waqat key leye choor kar pher doobara say start kar laiti hain ....insaani akal bhi koi cheez hoti hai jis ka istamaal woh karti hain :D:

Aanchal
1st November 2007, 21:23
pesy ki daur mai bhagty bhagty hi hum ny rishtoon ko faramoosh krna seekha hai.....dekhin Mard n Aurat ager duties divide kr lain to ziada faeda hoota hai e.g Mard job ki responsibility ly n ik Aurat ghar sambhaaly to life mai balance rehta hai....:)

2ndly, taleem ka istimaal wo bachoon ki parwarish or even self developement ki soorat mai utha sakti hai :)
ik illeterate person to khud ko sambhal sakta to babies ko kese sambhaaly gi :)




JEE JEE buhat sahi kaha :) Fully Agreed ...itni se baat inn ki samjh mein nahi aa rahai deykhein na .............:tauba


agar woh donoo zimdaaroeoun ko sahi sanbhaal sakti hai ..apna talent donoo jaghoun pay sahi istamal kar sakti hai pher kia masla hai ?:lpop:

Aanchal
1st November 2007, 21:28
Kam karana aata hai NOTE IT DOWN ..::) karti hein ka koi zikar nahi :kr::rose


ghar ja kay kahana vohi pakati hai :lpop: main nay kaha na un kay parents kehtay hain yeh hamri beeti bhi hai or beeta bhi :bb:

Aap b Agar use karnay lagein ...agar aisa ho tu na...magar aisa hota nahi na :):lpop:

Mard ki zimadaari bey-shak ...equal hai .magar bachoun ki tarbiyat mein na k ghar k kamoun mein wo alag baat k agar wo kar lein tu onn ko barrAI hai nahi karein tu yeh ziamdaari tu sirf aurat ki hee hai na ... MARD manage kar sakta hai kion k oss ko Job se 7 bajay chutti hoti hai tu oss ko koi aur zimadaari nahi hoti magar ...aurat jab 7 bajay MARDOUN ki tarah gahr mein daakhil ho gee tu oss k jab sab ghar k kamoun ka ambaaar nazar --aa-ay gaa tu kia wo sab kuch sahi tareeqay se kar sakay gee ??NEVER


:na:bachoun ki zimmdari donoo ki hai ..ham yeh nahi kehs aktay mard kar laian to barapan hai or na karay to un pay yeh zimmdari nahi hai ......

woh aisi job karey jis say woh sab theek waqat pay kar lay to ? 7 bajye na to kam waqat key leye job karey pher ?

Aanchal
1st November 2007, 21:32
Aanchal jee ! Khawhishaat ko ki baat ..bari ghambeer hai .....:wk jee hamein apni desires ko dabana chahiyay magar wishes ko zaroor poora karna chahiyay wo b ek Hadd mein reh kar ..aur wo hadd hamein hamaar deen deyta hai ...yeh hum aap sab hee jantay hein agar zaroorat pari tu I will quote them here too :)





khawaishat or wishes aik hi kheet ki mooli hai na :lol
yeh dabian woh dabaian har cheez daba daba kay aik din khud zameen main dab jaian ...yehi hai zindagi ?:donno:

Aanchal
1st November 2007, 21:38
Oh GOD dear sis mainy to abhi 2 3 baar aik he baat ko dohraya hay to app us aik eh baat sy ukta gai hain ....kia khwateen apni aik he qisam ke zndagi say nahi ukta sakteen??kia un ka dil nahi krta apny ghar say nikalny ko ???kia us ka dil nahi krta k us ki ruki c zindagi main koi change aa ja'ay ....kia woh apny app ko khud mukhtaar nahi bnana chahteen kia woh nahi chahteen k hum log bhi apny paeroon per khari ho sakeen ?????
main bhi yehi baat app ko samjhana chahti hoon k yeh koi breakfast nahi hay jis k liay hum log raat ko he eggs or milk etc laa kr rakh sakty hain...yeh poori zindagi hay jis main humain koi bhi cheez itni asaani say nahi millti...agr app is aat ke bhi favour main hain k zrorat k wqt krni chaheay to app he btain k jab kisi jo job ke zaroorat ho ge to kia usay un eggs etc ke trhaan aik din pehly he mill ja'ay ge??kia app aik raat main job talash kr sakti hain??????yaan agr app ko job mill bhi ja'ay to app nay sari zindagi job na ke ho or app ko achanak kisi office ka moon daikhna apry ga to app whaan per logoon ak moon daikhain geen...job nahi kr pa'ain geen.....
jab us k ghar waloon ko problem ho to woh job chod day usay kisi hakeem nay to nahi btaya k tum nay sari zindagi job nahi krni:khi:...

agr khwateen job kr bhi lain to kia hrj hay ??????????kia hum apny moashry ke aurtoon per itna bhi trust nahi kr sakteen k woh job kr sakte hain........or is k sath sath woh baqe actinities ko bhi poora kr lain geen?
mujhy to un khwateen per poora yaqeen hay k woh job bhi kr lain geen or apny ghar ko bhi sanbhal lain geen...or rahi baat aik hee baat krny ke to dear sister yhaan per aik he topic dia gia hay debate ka.. jis per humain behas krni hay so woh main kr rahi hoon:)
or main kisi bhi baat say confuse nahi hoti dont u worry and keep smile 2:)

:victory:

Aanchal
1st November 2007, 21:42
:)

Deykehin DEAR ! jab sar par parti hai na tu ...insan kia karta wo masal k *gdahay ko b bap *( Lahol wala :drama: ) b man-na parta hai ....
PROBLEMS se khelna aurat ki agar majboori hai tu oss mein tu deen nay b choot dee na aurat ko kai muqamaat per jo fraa-iz hein wo b adaa karnay ki choot...majboori mein koi olti harkat karna se behtar hai k ek idaray mein nokri karay ...phir wo massa-il se b iss liyay niptay gee k oss k pass aur koi way out nahi hai ..magar aik aurat jo mazay mein apnay parents k sath ya apnay hubby k sath reh rahai hai aur Aallah rakhay wo kama k b laa rahay hein tu ..koi tukkk nahi ban-ti k wo .....Phir b kamanay k liyay ja-ay ...aur apnay liyay aur doosroun k liyay problems kahri karya ..bul-keh iss tarah jo haqdaar hein , wo beychaari job ko dhoondhti reh jaaein gee aur yeh khawateen apnay huubyz k asar O rasookh se ..sifarshein laraa k job karein gee aur ................Oh GOD !..........

anyway I hopr u got my point and ur answer ..:)




agar husband ki jeeb main itna maal hai :lol to kisi dosri jaga kaam karwanay main baqool aap kay kay dosray ka haq mara jata hai ...to usay apnnay sarmaey say apna koi kaam start karwa day ...:D: usay woh kaam karnay day jis main timming bhi in ki pasand ki hoo kay ghar ko bhi time day sakye or apnay kaam ko bhi ...is baray main kia khayal hai ?:wk

Aanchal
1st November 2007, 21:46
main team B kay point of view janna chahoun gee unmarried or old ladies ki job kay baray main ?

Gul
1st November 2007, 22:01
agar woh donoo zimdaaroeoun ko sahi sanbhaal sakti hai ..apna talent donoo jaghoun pay sahi istamal kar sakti hai pher kia masla hai ?:lpop:

jab insan agar ki baat karta hai na tu agar .......k nbuhat se meanings nikaltay hein dear aanchal jee .....ZINDGEE agar magar se nahi POSITIVE way se sahi guzarti hai .....and sahi istemaal ......jo aap keh rahi hein oss ka sahi istemaal ho tu naaaaaaaaaaaaa! yehi tu problem hai k aisa hota nahi na...!


:na:bachoun ki zimmdari donoo ki hai ..ham yeh nahi keh saktay mard kar laian to barapan hai or na karay to un pay yeh zimmdari nahi hai ......


bachoun ki tarbiyat hee sirf ghar daari nahi My DEAR .....ghar ko sambhalna and ghar se respective kamoun ko sambhalna yeh aurat hee kaam hai .....aap ek baat leyti hein...:) aur doosri ko pechay chore deyti hein ....mard ya baap equally responsible hai bachoun ki tarbiyat mein bul keh deykha ja-ay tu aur b kai aspects samnay aatay hein bachoun ki tarbiyat k liyay magar AURAT ka kam sirf yeh nahi k wo bachoun ki negehdaasht karay oss ko ghar se mutaliqaa aur b kaam karnay hein wo ..agar oss ka hubby karay tu yeh oss ka bara pan hai janab! ...mein nay itni see araz ki thee aap plz sara stuff parha kijay :)


woh aisi job karey jis say woh sab theek waqat pay kar lay to ? 7 bajye na to kam waqat key leye job karey pher ?

SIRF AIK nahi bulkeh 3 3 MUSKAAN :):):) yehan phir agar ki situation hoi na :)


khawaishat or wishes aik hi kheet ki mooli hai na :lol
yeh dabian woh dabaian har cheez daba daba kay aik din khud zameen main dab jaian ...yehi hai zindagi ?:donno:

yeh zindgee ki nahi samjhnay ki baat hai ....aap nay DESIRES and WISHES ko ek muqam dey diya...
meri best wishes aap k sath hein ...:) kion k mein apni desires per control karna janti hoon ! :)

Aanchal
1st November 2007, 22:03
Main "NAHI" k haqq mai jaoon gi.......or main apny topic ko kuch is tarah defend krna chaahon gi k......Aurat ka tasawwur hamesha se hamary muas'ry mai "Ghar Ki Zimmedar" ka hi raha hai.....q k Aurat apny ghar k lye buhat ziada caring or zimmydaar hooti hai baat ye nahi k mardon mai ye khoobyan nahi.......mardoon ko bhi ALLAH TAALA ny in tamam senses n feelings se nawaza hai pr mard or Aurat ki zimmedaryon mai buhat fark hai.....

Auray beshak ghar ki bhi Rani hai lekan usay Allah Tala nay buhat si khobeoun say nazawa hai woh pooray ghar kay elawa bahir kay kaam bhi achay kar sakti hai :D: ..aurtian to Razia sultna or Clepatra bhi thein ..itna naam kamaya :lpop:


ik Aurat apny ghar ki nighibaan tasawwur ki jaati hai..

to is main yeh baat kahan ati hai kay job karnay wali aurat nighiban nahi hoo sakti ?


......jab wo student ho tab uski saari tawajju apni studies pr


is say aik sawal zehan main a raha hai kay aap loog pher science or technology ki taleem kay baray main kia kehtay hoo ? jab us nay job hi nahi karni to ghar main is ka kia istamal karay gee ?:cc:


or jb studies complete to usy ik nae ghar ki zimmydaari somp di jaati hai jahan nae ghar k sabhi logon or apny Husband ki zimmydaari us pr hooti hai.
ghar kay sab afraad ko zimmdarian bantni chaye sab kuch us pay daal deena bhi to sahi nahi hai na




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Aanchal
1st November 2007, 22:08
jab insan agar ki baat karta hai na tu agar .......k nbuhat se meanings nikaltay hein dear aanchal jee .....ZINDGEE agar magar se nahi POSITIVE way se sahi guzarti hai .....and sahi istemaal ......jo aap keh rahi hein oss ka sahi istemaal ho tu naaaaaaaaaaaaa! yehi tu problem hai k aisa hota nahi na...!

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woh to main aap ko pehlay examples say day chuki houn jin ko main nay deekha hai jo job bhi karti hain or ghar bhi sanbhlati hian .....
ankhoun deekha haal hai koi suni sunaai batian to nahi na kay banda yakeen na karay ....i m 100% sure woh donoo kaam sahi kar sakti hai :thmbup:


kuch ladies apnay husband say zaida parhi likhi hoti hain zaida talented hoti hian ...un kay husband unhay is leye bhi job nahi karnay daytay kay un say agay na nikal jaian .:a stick:...yeh bhi aik ankhoun deekha waqia hai :)

Aanchal
1st November 2007, 22:15
bachoun ki tarbiyat hee sirf ghar daari nahi My DEAR .....ghar ko sambhalna and ghar se respective kamoun ko sambhalna yeh aurat hee kaam hai .....aap ek baat leyti hein...:) aur doosri ko pechay chore deyti hein ....mard ya baap equally responsible hai bachoun ki tarbiyat mein bul keh deykha ja-ay tu aur b kai aspects samnay aatay hein bachoun ki tarbiyat k liyay magar AURAT ka kam sirf yeh nahi k wo bachoun ki negehdaasht karay oss ko ghar se mutaliqaa aur b kaam karnay hein wo ..agar oss ka hubby karay tu yeh oss ka bara pan hai janab! ...mein nay itni see araz ki thee aap plz sara stuff parha kijay :)




ji main nay post parh kay jawan dia hai ...aap ghooma pheera kay pher vohi baat karti hai :lol


SIRF AIK nahi bulkeh 3 3 MUSKAAN :):):) yehan phir agar ki situation hoi na :)

aap agar magar ko pakrti rehti hian :khi: agar magar na lagian to sawaal kesay complete hoo ga ?:D:
chalian agar magar ko hata kay main yeh sawal pher say pouchti houn :D: Khawateen aisi job kaaian jis say un ki timmings aisi hoo kay ghar kay kaam ko bhi sahi time day sakian to ?

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Aanchal
1st November 2007, 22:23
Starting In The Name Of ALLAH :rose
Ab hum us zimmydaari ko zer-e-behes laaaty hain jo k ik Aurat pr hooti hain.
ghar k sabhi kaam waghera.....let suppose apk paas ik full time servent bhi hai even then kuch cheezin aise hooti hain jo ik Aurat jis se sb rishty mansoob hain usy sar-anjaam deni hooti hain......or ager usky paas ik bhi servenmt nahi to sab usy khud hi krna hai isky ilawa sab se ziada xpect ik Aurat se usky Bacchy krty hain jinka poora haqq hoota hai apni Maa'n pr k wo unki nighidasht kary or unhy poori tawajju de specially initial yrs mai........



So in tamaam zimmydaarion k bais ik Aurat job nahi kr sakti........or ager kary to sab hi rishty sab hi zimmydarian buri tarah se mutaa'sir hooti hain....jiski wajah se mera Opinion Khawateen k job NA KARNY k haqq mai jaata hai.....!

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gaoun main bhi aksar aurtian baray gharoun main ja kay kaam karti hain lekan un kay ghar main koi noukar nahi hoti woh sara kaam khud hi karti hain ...gaoun ki aurtian kheetoun main bhi kaam karti hain or bachay bhi sanbhalti hian ......to 2 ,2 zimmdadiran sanbhal rahi hai na ?


job ki baat hai to job kai taraha ki hoti hai zaori hai wohi job ki jaye jis say ghar ko time na millye ? aik samjhdar aurat yakeenan in sab batoun ka khayal reakhti hai :rose

aap loog husband or bachoun tak mehdood hoo kay baat kar rehaye hoo is say agay peachay ki khawateen ki life main bhi to kuch likhian na :lpop:

Gul
1st November 2007, 22:53
Oh GOD dear sis mainy to abhi 2 3 baar aik he baat ko dohraya hay to app us aik eh baat sy ukta gai hain ....kia khwateen apni aik he qisam ke zndagi say nahi ukta sakteen??kia un ka dil nahi krta apny ghar say nikalny ko ???kia us ka dil nahi krta k us ki ruki c zindagi main koi change aa ja'ay ....kia woh apny app ko khud mukhtaar nahi bnana chahteen kia woh nahi chahteen k hum log bhi apny paeroon per khari ho sakeen ?????


Jia jee ...! ab ..iss moamlay mein ...kia kahain k aurat nahi har insan hee apnay ek jaisay life style se oktaa jaat ahai ek jaisi routine, aik jaisay timings per othna sona subah office k liyay jaja wahi ek jaisay chehray wahi buk buk jhak jhak ...wahi kursi wahi maiz wahi....BOSS ka bulana wahi falouN k jhanjhat ! ......insan tu oss b oktaa jata hai ..leikn jab wahin insan ( both genders ) ghar mein aatay hein tu sofay per beyth kar kehtay hein ufffffffffffff thak gai ghar mein kitna sakoon hai ..:) isnt it ?:)


main bhi yehi baat app ko samjhana chahti hoon k yeh koi breakfast nahi hay jis k liay hum log raat ko he eggs or milk etc laa kr rakh sakty hain...yeh poori zindagi hay jis main humain koi bhi cheez itni asaani say nahi millti...agr app is baat ke bhi favour main hain k zrorat k wqt krni chaheay to app he btain k jab kisi jo job ke zaroorat ho ge to kia usay un eggs etc ke trhaan aik din pehly he mill ja'ay ge??kia app aik raat main job talash kr sakti hain??????yaan agr app ko job mill bhi ja'ay to app nay sari zindagi job na ke ho or app ko achanak kisi office ka moon daikhna apry ga to app whaan per logoon ak moon daikhain geen...job nahi kr pa'ain geen.....

ap yeh meri abilities per shak kar rahi :wk hein mein kuch arsa pehlay jab mein UAE mein thee pakistani 30,000 tak ki job ko rudd kar chuki hoon jo sirf urdu language parhanay k liyay thee :) :) ..Anyway Allah Taalah apna reham karay Mujh per aap per hum sab per,
Koi kaam ratoun raat aasan nahi hota ...magar Jab waqt Aan parta hai tu sab marhalay insan tay karta jata hai ..yeh insan ki zindgee mein qudrat nay kuch aisay *HARMONIES* rakhay hein jo khud ba khud active ho jatay hein ..anyway ....rahi baat MILK BREAD AND EGGS ki mein nay yeh tu kahin b nahi kah k wo aap ek din pehlay nahi la k rakh saktay ..bulkeh ..hum tu yehan weekly grocery kartay hein kion k jaghein khasi door door hoti hein tu ...fridge mein la k anday dhoodh rakh leytay hein albta bread sirf 2 ya 3 din tak ki aati hai baqi mein hoon na ..Allah k fazal se ghar per roti banan-na janti hoon :):):):)




jab us k ghar waloon ko problem ho to woh job chod day usay kisi hakeem nay to nahi btaya k tum nay sari zindagi job nahi krni...

agr khwateen job kr bhi lain to kia hrj hay ??????????kia hum apny moashry ke aurtoon per itna bhi trust nahi kr sakteen k woh job kr sakte hain........or is k sath sath woh baqe actinities ko bhi poora kr lain geen?
mujhy to un khwateen per poora yaqeen hay k woh job bhi kr lain geen or apny ghar ko bhi sanbhal lain geen..

jo brown mein bold kia hai na ..!aisa nahi hota ...baray Conflicts paida ho jaatay hein .....! Kion k larkiyan ya khawateen job karnay ki itni aadi ho chuki hoti hein ...wo ghar par nahi beyth sakti onn ka life style ek dum .....:pagal: anyway ....iss k liyay b meray pass misaalein hein ..my sis in pakistan ..Doctor hein ....and mashaAllah ...achay khatay peetay gharanay mein shadi hoi ..khoob jagerein etc ..bla bla ...onnhoun nay abhi ghar banaya hai jo qareeban 70. 80 lakh ya aik caror ka tu ho ga hee mashaAllah Allah Onhein naseeb kary wahan rehna, khushiyan manan-na ..ameen sum ameen.magar wo job karti hein kion k wo kehti hein k mein ghar beyth kar kia karoon ek maah ki chutti li tu hOL othnay lagay ...sab se mil mila liya....seyrein b ho gaein magar mein ab baqi waqt kia karoon, itni boriyat hai ....ghar per, mujhay kehnay lagi tum kaisay waqt guzaar leyti ho mein sirf muskara dee :) Onhoun nay apni chutti ..ko ...shorten kia aur wapic JOIN kar liya..ab mujhay yeh batatein kia koi aurat jo pichlay kuch saloun se job kar rahi hoon onn ko hubby kahein tu bhee kia wo jobs chorein gee ...kabhi nahi ..! .aur han aap ka yaqeen hee tu nahi thek na janab Jia jee ! :):) :comfort:



.or rahi baat aik hee baat krny ke to dear sister yhaan per aik he topic dia gia hay debate ka.. jis per humain behas krni hay so woh main kr rahi hoon
or main kisi bhi baat say confuse nahi hoti dont u worry and keep smile 2

DEAR SISTER sahiba :):) TOPIC AIK HAI magar aap ki taraf se points sahi nahi aa rahay aap ek hee topic per 1000z or more points laa kar hee Koi debate kartay hein ya ek hee ...? :) wesay working women ki lives jaisi ek routine ki aadi hoti hai aap nay b tu ossi tarah baat ki na :) ..THEY HAVE NO CHOICES ..:):)

LOTS OF LUV dear ! :) :phool:

Gul
1st November 2007, 22:58
agar husband ki jeeb main itna maal hai :lol to kisi dosri jaga kaam karwanay main baqool aap kay kay dosray ka haq mara jata hai ...to usay apnnay sarmaey say apna koi kaam start karwa day ...:D: usay woh kaam karnay day jis main timming bhi in ki pasand ki hoo kay ghar ko bhi time day sakye or apnay kaam ko bhi ...is baray main kia khayal hai ?:wk

YEH TU JEE ONN MIAN BIVI ka moamla hai na aap ziada behtar janti hein ONN khawateen ko ...hum nahi jantay :wk ab Aap ko kia btaaON ap KHASI samjhdar dikhti hein ....:cc: K aisia khawateen agar husband k under hee kam karan chhati tu wo ghar per rehna b prefer kar sakti theen asal mein wo husband k under nahi rehna chahti nahi ....wo KHUD KAFEEL honay ki koshish mein ...
JANAY KIA KIA soort-e haalat paida kar deyti hein ..:yo:

Gul
1st November 2007, 23:02
:tauba
woh to main aap ko pehlay examples say day chuki houn jin ko main nay deekha hai jo job bhi karti hain or ghar bhi sanbhlati hian .....
ankhoun deekha haal hai koi suni sunaai batian to nahi na kay banda yakeen na karay ....i m 100% sure woh donoo kaam sahi kar sakti hai :thmbup:


kuch ladies apnay husband say zaida parhi likhi hoti hain zaida talented hoti hian ...un kay husband unhay is leye bhi job nahi karnay daytay kay un say agay na nikal jaian .:a stick:...yeh bhi aik ankhoun deekha waqia hai :)

:) TU AURAT KI ALLA ZARFI HAI K WO PHIR ZIADA ELM HONAY K BAWAJOOD APNAY HUSBAND Ki bat maan leyti hai ....aur ghar per reh kar apnay bachoun ko ek acha mahole deyti hai ....KION K wo FARMAN BARDAR hai KioN k WO AIK ACHI muslimah hai jis ko pata hai k oss ko apnay husband ki baat man-na hai yehi oss ki zindgee hai yehi oss ki zimadari...! iss mein Koi muqabla nahi ....:):) LOTS OF SMILES :):):lpop:

Gul
1st November 2007, 23:16
ji main nay post parh kay jawan dia hai ...aap ghooma pheera kay pher vohi baat karti hai

:)
aap deykh lijay k mein aap hee ghuma-ay phiraa-ay howay mukalmoun ka jawab dey rahi hoon mein nay abhi tak koi aat apnay se add nahi ki :) iss liya jab aap hee ghomaa phira kar wahi baat karein gee tu wahin jawab milay ga na ..U CAN Not change my replies :) unless U will not change ur questions :)



aap agar magar ko pakrti rehti hian agar magar na lagian to sawaal kesay complete hoo ga ?
chalian agar magar ko hata kay main yeh sawal pher say pouchti houn Khawateen aisi job kaaian jis say un ki timmings aisi hoo kay ghar kay kaam ko bhi sahi time day sakian to ?



nahi sach manein kai sawal KIA KION KAISAY KAB se b shoro hotay hein ..:):):)

Agar ki situation ya saktay hein ki situation ...wahan aati hai jahan par sirf dhons( sorry iss se ziada suitable word nahi mila :( ) jaama k baat ki ja-ay !

jaisay goya ,,

Koi JOB karnay ki KHAWAHISH rakhnay wali Khatoon apnay hubby se yeh kahay ...
agar aap Neck tie laga saktay hein tu mein nahi laga sakti ..hmm:nunu:

Ya yeh k agar Aap job kar saktay hein tu kia mein job nahi kar sakti :sad1: kar k dikah doon gee ....:khi: ::D

Gul
1st November 2007, 23:48
gaoun main bhi aksar aurtian baray gharoun main ja kay kaam karti hain lekan un kay ghar main koi noukar nahi hoti woh sara kaam khud hi karti hain ...gaoun ki aurtian kheetoun main bhi kaam karti hain or bachay bhi sanbhalti hian ......to 2 ,2 zimmdadiran sanbhal rahi hai na ?



:SubhanAllhaa: kitni achi misaal dee aap nay ...Khawateen khaitoun mein kaam karti hein ....aur ghar k kaam b....ONN khawateen k liyay khaitoun mein kam karna goya ghar ka kaam hai , secondly onn khawateen k wo family probs nahi hotay ..jo hamari shehar ki khawateen k hotay hein ....yeh khud parhi likhi nahi hotien onn k bachay schools ki hadd tak jo parthay hotay hein, wahi elm onn tak rehta hai bulkeh onn k tu bachy b khaitoun mein kaam kartay hein aur sath sath parhtay hein ...onn ka setup ek dum differnt hota hai ..u can not match them wid aik gharailo woman of city... aap jis FAST zamany aur waqt ki baat kar rati hein oss mein inn khawateen ki baat jo Gaooun mein hoti hein ek dum contrast hai ..mein onn KHAWATEEN ko wesay SALAM :salam: karti hoon ..magar yehan per JOB FOR PAY ki baat hai na k JOB wid out pay ki baat ?




job ki baat hai to job kai taraha ki hoti hai zaori hai wohi job ki jaye jis say ghar ko time na millye ? aik samjhdar aurat yakeenan in sab batoun ka khayal reakhti hai :rose

aap loog husband or bachoun tak mehdood hoo kay baat kar rehaye hoo is say agay peachay ki khawateen ki life main bhi to kuch likhian na :lpop:

:) KION K ABHI AAP NAY HAMEIN SUNAA hee kahaan hai :) .....
AIK samjhdaaar aur saleeqa shoaa`r aurat ki zindgee ka mehwar oss ka ghar ....oss k bachay oss ka khawand hota hai ...iss liyay oss ki zindgee k ek ek pal ...ossi k gird ghoomta hai wo zindgee k saray Khoobsoorat lmahay apni family k sath taswar karti hai ...iss liyay WO aurat baat b yehi karti hai :) .....Samjh gaein houn gee OMEED -e_WASIQ hai :):):stars:

Aanchal
2nd November 2007, 09:09
:)
aap deykh lijay k mein aap hee ghuma-ay phiraa-ay howay mukalmoun ka jawab dey rahi hoon mein nay abhi tak koi aat apnay se add nahi ki :) iss liya jab aap hee ghomaa phira kar wahi baat karein gee tu wahin jawab milay ga na ..U CAN Not change my replies :) unless U will not change ur questions :)

sawal to kafi aap say poouchye gay hian aap ghooma pheera kay pher vohi a jati hain ...or pher ham say shikwa kay ham hi aisay sawaal kartay hian :lol

nahi sach manein kai sawal KIA KION KAISAY KAB se b shoro hotay hein ..:):):)

Agar ki situation ya saktay hein ki situation ...wahan aati hai jahan par sirf dhons( sorry iss se ziada suitable word nahi mila :( ) jaama k baat ki ja-ay !

jaisay goya ,,

Koi JOB karnay ki KHAWAHISH rakhnay wali Khatoon apnay hubby se yeh kahay ...
agar aap Neck tie laga saktay hein tu mein nahi laga sakti ..hmm:nunu:

Ya yeh k agar Aap job kar saktay hein tu kia mein job nahi kar sakti :sad1: kar k dikah doon gee ....:khi: ::D


yeh mery sawal ka jawaab nahi hai :) mujhay zara wazeha jawaab chaye :roseor team B ki taraf say #123 post main keye gay sawal ka jawab bhi koi day me waiting :thmbup:

Aanchal
2nd November 2007, 09:12
Jia jee ...! ab ..iss moamlay mein ...kia kahain k aurat nahi har insan hee apnay ek jaisay life style se oktaa jaat ahai ek jaisi routine, aik jaisay timings per othna sona subah office k liyay jaja wahi ek jaisay chehray wahi buk buk jhak jhak ...wahi kursi wahi maiz wahi....BOSS ka bulana wahi falouN k jhanjhat ! ......insan tu oss b oktaa jata hai ..leikn jab wahin insan ( both genders ) ghar mein aatay hein tu sofay per beyth kar kehtay hein ufffffffffffff thak gai ghar mein kitna sakoon hai ..:) isnt it ?:)
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or yehi baat ghar walye jab bahir jatay hain to kehtay hain kay uffff kitna acha lag raha hai ghar main aik hi jaga beath beath kay thak gay they ..hai na ?:wk

Aanchal
2nd November 2007, 09:20
YEH TU JEE ONN MIAN BIVI ka moamla hai na aap ziada behtar janti hein ONN khawateen ko ...hum nahi jantay :wk ab Aap ko kia btaaON ap KHASI samjhdar dikhti hein ....:cc: K aisia khawateen agar husband k under hee kam karan chhati tu wo ghar per rehna b prefer kar sakti theen asal mein wo husband k under nahi rehna chahti nahi ....wo KHUD KAFEEL honay ki koshish mein ...
JANAY KIA KIA soort-e haalat paida kar deyti hein ..:yo:

sirf miyan biwi ka mamla kio howa yeh sari khawateen ki baat kar rehay hain ham na kay jinhay itraaz hai khawateen ki job pay agar aisa kuch hoo to pher kia hona chaye ????/

sawal ka wazeha jawab dia karian na kay aisi situation ho to pher job kar sakti hain ????


or husband kay under reh kar kaam karna or ghar kar kaam donoo kamoun main faraq hota hai...:rose

Aanchal
2nd November 2007, 09:24
:) TU AURAT KI ALLA ZARFI HAI K WO PHIR ZIADA ELM HONAY K BAWAJOOD APNAY HUSBAND Ki bat maan leyti hai ....aur ghar per reh kar apnay bachoun ko ek acha mahole deyti hai ....KION K wo FARMAN BARDAR hai KioN k WO AIK ACHI muslimah hai jis ko pata hai k oss ko apnay husband ki baat man-na hai yehi oss ki zindgee hai yehi oss ki zimadari...! iss mein Koi muqabla nahi ....:):) LOTS OF SMILES :):):lpop:
Aurat compromise karay to yeh us ki Alazarfi ..or mard compromise na karay to usay kia kahiaan gay ?:cc:
yeh un kay husband ki jealousy hai ....
bachay un kay baray hain or mashallha say sab theek thaak hain parhai main or har cheez main ...sab baray hain ....woh lady bhi teaching main kafi experience reakhti hain ....to un ko kaam na karnay dia jealousy hi hai husband ki ...

Aanchal
2nd November 2007, 09:26
[SIZE=4][I][FONT=Georgia]yeh zindgee ki nahi samjhnay ki baat hai ....aap nay DESIRES and WISHES ko ek muqam dey diya...
meri best wishes aap k sath hein ...:) kion k mein apni desires per control karna janti hoon ! :)

philosphy sirf sunnay main achi lagti hai lekan practical life main yeh buhat kam hi use ki jati hai :)

Aanchal
2nd November 2007, 09:29
baki replies bad main ..
or baki team members kahan gay ?:rolleyes:
ham 2,3 loog hi boltay ja rehay hain :nunu:

Masood
2nd November 2007, 09:55
baki replies bad main ..
or baki team members kahan gay ?:rolleyes:
ham 2,3 loog hi boltay ja rehay hain :nunu:


:tauba aur tum 2 - 3 log hi kitna boltey ho keh 7 page bhar diyey :lol

Aanchal
2nd November 2007, 11:22
:tauba aur tum 2 - 3 log hi kitna boltey ho keh 7 page bhar diyey :lol

aap kis khushi main andar aye ?:hathora
shabash jaoo or sunday ko ana :zuban:

Aanchal
2nd November 2007, 11:33
:SubhanAllhaa: kitni achi misaal dee aap nay ...Khawateen khaitoun mein kaam karti hein ....aur ghar k kaam b....ONN khawateen k liyay khaitoun mein kam karna goya ghar ka kaam hai , secondly onn khawateen k wo family probs nahi hotay ..jo hamari shehar ki khawateen k hotay hein ....yeh khud parhi likhi nahi hotien onn k bachay schools ki hadd tak jo parthay hotay hein, wahi elm onn tak rehta hai bulkeh onn k tu bachy b khaitoun mein kaam kartay hein aur sath sath parhtay hein ...onn ka setup ek dum differnt hota hai ..u can not match them wid aik gharailo woman of city... aap jis FAST zamany aur waqt ki baat kar rati hein oss mein inn khawateen ki baat jo Gaooun mein hoti hein ek dum contrast hai ..mein onn KHAWATEEN ko wesay SALAM :salam: karti hoon ..magar yehan per JOB FOR PAY ki baat hai na k JOB wid out pay ki baat ?


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sari dunia jahan ki gaoun ki aurtoun kay apnay kheet hotay hian kia ?:lol jo aap keh rahi hain un khawateen kay leye kaam karna ghoya ghar ka kaam hai ..aap reality say hat kar baat kar rahi hain :)
gaoun ki aurtian dosroun kay kheet main kaam nahi karti ? vohan ki aurtoun baray gharoun main ja kay kaam nahi kartein? in say unhay pesa nahi milta ?


aap nay kaha kay woh parhi likhi nahi hoti or bachay bhi zaida nahi parh payaty ....lekan un ki soouch hoti hai kay ham bachoun ko parhian ..un kay paas pesa ki kami hoti hai jis ki waja say yeh maslaye hotay hian ..



yeh main aap say pehlay bhi araz kar chuki houn kay yaha sirf job ki baat hoo rahi hain without pay ya with pay isay ham nay alag alag nahi reakha .....

agar gaoun ki khawateen ka apna kheet bhi howa jahan woh kaam kar rahi hain to woh un ka apna alag kaam hoo gia na bahir ka ?gharoun ka bhi karti hian bahir ka bhi :)



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Aanchal
2nd November 2007, 11:35
aaj ki aurat khila ki bhi sair kar chuki hai woh ghar say bahir nikli hai to usay yeh maqaam mila na ? us nay taleem hasil ki pher usi taleem ko practical life main use kia pher usay woh maqaam mila ...ghar main rehnay wali aurat kabhi ghar beathay beathay chaand par pounch sakti hai?

Aanchal
2nd November 2007, 11:39
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:) KION K ABHI AAP NAY HAMEIN SUNAA hee kahaan hai :) .....
AIK samjhdaaar aur saleeqa shoaa`r aurat ki zindgee ka mehwar oss ka ghar ....oss k bachay oss ka khawand hota hai ...iss liyay oss ki zindgee k ek ek pal ...ossi k gird ghoomta hai wo zindgee k saray Khoobsoorat lmahay apni family k sath taswar karti hai ...iss liyay WO aurat baat b yehi karti hai :) .....Samjh gaein houn gee OMEED -e_WASIQ hai :):):stars:


to app sunian na :khi: deekhtay hain aap ka baki khawateen kay baray main kia point of view hai :)
job karnay wali khawateen bhi in cheezoun ko ehmeyat daiti hain sirf ghar main rehnay wali hi zaida saleeqa shouwaar nahi hotien :lpop:

Aanchal
2nd November 2007, 11:44
student life main jo larkiyan job karti hain woh apni fees kay pesay bhi khud daiti hain or ghar waloun pay bhoujh bhi nahi banti :thmbup:


acha aap loog keh rehay hoo kay taleem hasil karian lekan job nahi to aksar institute main yeh requirements hoti hai kay aap ka itnay month/year ka working experience hoo pher aap ko admission mill sakta hai is baray main kia khayal hai ?

Aanchal
2nd November 2007, 11:46
aik aurat ko main janti houn apnay husband ka kaam sanbhalti hai computer ka un ka apna business hai ...sham ko kuch waqat us kaam ko daiti hai ...ghar kay kaam bhi saray khud karti hai or husband ka sath bhi day rahi hai ...jo taleem us nay hasil ki usay bhi istamal kar rahi hai or ghar ko bhi deekh rahi hai ....aisi aurtoun kay baray main kia kehtay hian aap loog?

Aanchal
2nd November 2007, 11:48
kuch husband khud bhi to apni bewoeun ko allow kar daytay hian job karna ?:D:

Shakh-e-Tamana
2nd November 2007, 13:49
dosroun ko bhi to khayal reakhna chaye :mm:
husband wife sab ko balance hoo kay chalna chaye :rose




well 100 main say 2 loog he aisa kuch sochtay hoon gaye..jahan tak mera khayal hai.....jahan tak khayal rakhnay ki baat hai tu......i think keh yeh ik haath day or ik haath lay wali baat hai..keh ap kisi ka karo gaye tu koi ap ka karay ga.....kaya khayal hai...

Shakh-e-Tamana
2nd November 2007, 13:52
AQAL KI BAT ! :):) YEH AAP AWAAM hein :eye: ya.............! :rose



she is my jani....i m jus kidding wid her..n she knowz....n i m not awaam

Shakh-e-Tamana
2nd November 2007, 13:58
Starting In The Name Of ALLAH :rose

Aj ka topic Aurat or uska mulazmat krna hai......kiya Aurat ko mulazmat krni chahye ya nahi???
Main "NAHI" k haqq mai jaoon gi.......or main apny topic ko kuch is tarah defend krna chaahon gi k......Aurat ka tasawwur hamesha se hamary muas'ry mai "Ghar Ki Zimmedar" ka hi raha hai.....q k Aurat apny ghar k lye buhat ziada caring or zimmydaar hooti hai baat ye nahi k mardon mai ye khoobyan nahi.......mardoon ko bhi ALLAH TAALA ny in tamam senses n feelings se nawaza hai pr mard or Aurat ki zimmedaryon mai buhat fark hai.....
ik Aurat apny ghar ki nighibaan tasawwur ki jaati hai........jab wo student ho tab uski saari tawajju apni studies pr or jb studies complete to usy ik nae ghar ki zimmydaari somp di jaati hai jahan nae ghar k sabhi logon or apny Husband ki zimmydaari us pr hooti hai.

Ab hum us zimmydaari ko zer-e-behes laaaty hain jo k ik Aurat pr hooti hain.
ghar k sabhi kaam waghera.....let suppose apk paas ik full time servent bhi hai even then kuch cheezin aise hooti hain jo ik Aurat jis se sb rishty mansoob hain usy sar-anjaam deni hooti hain......or ager usky paas ik bhi servenmt nahi to sab usy khud hi krna hai isky ilawa sab se ziada xpect ik Aurat se usky Bacchy krty hain jinka poora haqq hoota hai apni Maa'n pr k wo unki nighidasht kary or unhy poori tawajju de specially initial yrs mai........

So in tamaam zimmydaarion k bais ik Aurat job nahi kr sakti........or ager kary to sab hi rishty sab hi zimmydarian buri tarah se mutaa'sir hooti hain....jiski wajah se mera Opinion Khawateen k job NA KARNY k haqq mai jaata hai.....!

Abhi k lye Itna hi.....
baaqi main mazeed justifications k sath aon gi taaky apny topic ko defend kr sakoon

KHUSH RAHYYE
Ma'ASSALAM!


i m agree wid u....

but ap ko yeh nahi lagta keh....shadi say pehlay urat ager chahye tu job ker sakti hai....jo us nay perha hai..itni mehnat ki hai..us ko kuch tu use kerna chaiye na us ka...keh Allah na karay keh life main agay chal keh us ko koi prob ho.....tu wo eaisly kuch ker sakti hai apnay liye apnay gahar walon k liye.....ager us main confidence ho ga....himmat ho gi......


main b ais baat main ap say agree hoon keh..shadi k baad urat ko job nahi kerni chahiye......

Shakh-e-Tamana
2nd November 2007, 14:02
har cheez ki aik limit hoti hai larki ..had say zaida sirf apni khawaishat ko deekhna bhi to ghalat hai ...or kisi ki khawaishat ko daba kay reakhna bhi to sahi nahi :)


tum team A ki hoo ya team B ki ?:hehe:


agree...but i m still there.....jo start say hamaray mashray main urat ki place hai na..or jo loog us k baray main sochtay hain...ya start say he jo zumdariyan us ko soonp di gayi hain...wo un say haat ker kuch nahi ker sakti....ager karay gi...tu ap janti he hain.....


n team A say he hoon....kio :cc:

AbgeenA
2nd November 2007, 14:19
pesy ki daur mai bhagty bhagty hi hum ny rishtoon ko faramoosh krna seekha hai.....dekhin Mard n Aurat ager duties divide kr lain to ziada faeda hoota hai e.g Mard job ki responsibility ly n ik Aurat ghar sambhaaly to life mai balance rehta hai....:)

2ndly, taleem ka istimaal wo bachoon ki parwarish or even self developement ki soorat mai utha sakti hai :)
ik illeterate person to khud ko sambhal sakta to babies ko kese sambhaaly gi :)
bilkul theek kaha shaim:thmbup:or Allah ne orat or mard ko alag alag duties de kar dunya me bheja he mard par orat or bachon ki kafalat farz he jab ke orat par esi koi zimadari nahi.us par apne bachon ki tarbeyat or parwarsih ki zimadari daal kar dono ki duties ko banta gya he pata nahi orat kion ehsas-e-kamtari ka shikar he jo mard ki braberi karne ki dor me lag gai he jab ke us ka apna aik mukam he:donno:me en akser oraton ko ye kehte suna he k ham koi mardon se kam hen ya peeche hen jo ham ye kaam nahi kar sate jab ke dekha jaey to Allah ne orat mard ka mukabla to dala hi nahi.dono ki alag alag field he to mukabla kesa?:donno:jo kaam orat karti he wo mard nahi kar sakta.aik baby ko sambhalna serf orat hi kar sakti he.jo wo kahin se nahi seekhti ye Allah ne us ko salaheyat ata ki he:)

AbgeenA
2nd November 2007, 14:26
aaj ki aurat khila ki bhi sair kar chuki hai woh ghar say bahir nikli hai to usay yeh maqaam mila na ? us nay taleem hasil ki pher usi taleem ko practical life main use kia pher usay woh maqaam mila ...ghar main rehnay wali aurat kabhi ghar beathay beathay chaand par pounch sakti hai?
konsa mukam mila?:)mujhe lagta he hamara moashra maghribi moashre se mutaser he life stantard buland karne ke leay madi doar me shareek log..kia ye taraki he?ager yehi taraki ka mayaar he to batao maghribi orat aaj taraki ke kis buland mukam par he??wahan to sabhi gharon se nikal kar mard ke baraber pohanch chuki hen?:)

jia
2nd November 2007, 15:52
SIRF AIK nahi bulkeh 3 3 MUSKAAN :):):) yehan phir agar ki situation hoi na :)

g sis app nay bilkul theek kaha hay k yhaan phir say agr wali he situation hay ...or jab khwateen ko zaroorat parti hay aisy kamoon ke to us k dil main or us ki zuban per yehi hota hay k agr woh thora bohat job ka experience rakhti to woh ajj zaroorat k wqt job kr sakti thi....abhi to app easly is agr or sakte hain to ignor kr rahi hain laikin is agr or sakte main bohat kuch ho jata hay jis ka illam khwateen ko baad main hota hay or woh apny app say he bohat swaal krti reh jati hain...to acha nahi k hum log un swaloon k liay intezar na krain or apny app main khud ko tiyar rkhain.......main yeh nahi kehti k future main job ke he zarorat per sakti hay ...or bhi bohat sari zaroriyat hoti hain...agr woh khud job nahi kary ge or mushkil wqt main agr or sakte hain ka swaal un ki zubaan per ho ga to wohi next generation ki zuban per bhi ho ga k agr hum log yeh kr laiti to yeh sab bhi kr sakte theen:):rose

jia
2nd November 2007, 15:56
:victory:
:yo:
:stars:

jia
2nd November 2007, 16:03
:)

Deykehin DEAR ! jab sar par parti hai na tu ...insan kia karta wo masal k *gdahay ko b bap *( Lahol wala :drama: ) b man-na parta hai ....
PROBLEMS se khelna aurat ki agar majboori hai tu oss mein tu deen nay b choot dee na aurat ko kai muqamaat per jo fraa-iz hein wo b adaa karnay ki choot...majboori mein koi olti harkat karna se behtar hai k ek idaray mein nokri karay ...phir wo massa-il se b iss liyay niptay gee k oss k pass aur koi way out nahi hai ..magar aik aurat jo mazay mein apnay parents k sath ya apnay hubby k sath reh rahai hai aur Aallah rakhay wo kama k b laa rahay hein tu ..koi tukkk nahi ban-ti k wo .....Phir b kamanay k liyay ja-ay ...aur apnay liyay aur doosroun k liyay problems kahri karya ..bul-keh iss tarah jo haqdaar hein , wo beychaari job ko dhoondhti reh jaaein gee aur yeh khawateen apnay huubyz k asar O rasookh se ..sifarshein laraa k job karein gee aur ................Oh GOD !..........

anyway I hopr u got my point and ur answer ..:)


to app ka kia khiyal hay dear k mushkil wqt main apna kaam kr laina behtr hay yaan gadhy ko baap bnana behtr hy...........is ka mtlb hay k zarorat k wqt sirf haath he phaila'ay ja'ain..na k khud apny liay koi kaam kr lain or na to humain muhtaji ho or na he kisi ko gadhy ko baap bnana pary:)
agr koi aurat mushkil wqt main hoti hay to us ka mushkiloon main aik mushkil yeh bhi aa sakti hay k usay kmaana par jata hay to is ka mtlb yeh to nahi hay k woh job krny ki bja'ay dosroon k agy haath phail'ay aik to dusroon ki mohtaj ho or ooper say logoon ke batain sunay...

jia
2nd November 2007, 17:48
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Jia jee ...! ab ..iss moamlay mein ...kia kahain k aurat nahi har insan hee apnay ek jaisay life style se oktaa jaat ahai ek jaisi routine, aik jaisay timings per othna sona subah office k liyay jaja wahi ek jaisay chehray wahi buk buk jhak jhak ...wahi kursi wahi maiz wahi....BOSS ka bulana wahi falouN k jhanjhat ! ......insan tu oss b oktaa jata hai ..leikn jab wahin insan ( both genders ) ghar mein aatay hein tu sofay per beyth kar kehtay hein ufffffffffffff thak gai ghar mein kitna sakoon hai ..:) isnt it ?:)
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g haan hr koi apny life style say ukta jata hay or us main koi chaneg chahta hay ...laikin agr woh during job change chay to usay ba'assani rest mill sakta hay...kion k yeh humian sari zindagi nahi krni hoti...
or jis aurat ko apny ghar per aa ker sakoon milly ga woh usi sakoon ki base per ghar k baqe kaam bhi kr lay ge:)

jia
2nd November 2007, 17:57
ap yeh meri abilities per shak kar rahi :wk hein mein kuch arsa pehlay jab mein UAE mein thee pakistani 30,000 tak ki job ko rudd kar chuki hoon jo sirf urdu language parhanay k liyay thee :) :) ..Anyway Allah Taalah apna reham karay Mujh per aap per hum sab per,
Koi kaam ratoun raat aasan nahi hota ...magar Jab waqt Aan parta hai tu sab marhalay insan tay karta jata hai ..yeh insan ki zindgee mein qudrat nay kuch aisay *HARMONIES* rakhay hein jo khud ba khud active ho jatay hein ..anyway ....rahi baat MILK BREAD AND EGGS ki mein nay yeh tu kahin b nahi kah k wo aap ek din pehlay nahi la k rakh saktay ..bulkeh ..hum tu yehan weekly grocery kartay hein kion k jaghein khasi door door hoti hein tu ...fridge mein la k anday dhoodh rakh leytay hein albta bread sirf 2 ya 3 din tak ki aati hai baqi mein hoon na ..Allah k fazal se ghar per roti banan-na janti hoon :):):):)

no dear hum log yhaan per kisi ki abilities per shaq krny nahi aa'en..hum log to bohat achi freinds hain to yeh sab humain nahi krna ok...b happy:rose
main ajnti hoon k jab insan per mushkil aati hay to woh hr marhly ka samna kr laita ahy laikin is ka mtlb yeh to nahi k hum log mushkilaat ka intezar krain k jab mushkil sr per aan pary ge tabhi hum log hath pair marain gay otherwise kuch nahi krna...
or rahi MILK etc ke baat to app plz zra dubara us reply ko prhain jis ke base per app nay yeh kaha hay k yeh sab chezain raato raat mill sakte hain laikin job itni aasani say nahi milti or agr mill ja'ay to bghair kisi experience k hum say kuch nahi ho pa'ay ga....mainy yeh nahi kaha k yeh sab chezain raat-oraat nahi mill sakteen yaan store nahi ho sakteen...

jia
2nd November 2007, 18:03
DEAR SISTER sahiba :):) TOPIC AIK HAI magar aap ki taraf se points sahi nahi aa rahay aap ek hee topic per 1000z or more points laa kar hee Koi debate kartay hein ya ek hee ...? :) wesay working women ki lives jaisi ek routine ki aadi hoti hai aap nay b tu ossi tarah baat ki na :) ..THEY HAVE NO CHOICES ..:):)

LOTS OF LUV dear ! :):phool:
dear mery points aik dam theek thay laikin jo mery against hoon gay ager unhe ko mery points achy lgny lag gay to phir woh to ga'ay na apny kaam say:hehe:
or jo red colocur main hay woh mujhay smajh main nahi aya k app nay kia kaha hay yaan kia poocha hay:cc:
LUV u 2 dear b happy:rose:stars:

jia
2nd November 2007, 18:11
aik aurat ko main janti houn apnay husband ka kaam sanbhalti hai computer ka un ka apna business hai ...sham ko kuch waqat us kaam ko daiti hai ...ghar kay kaam bhi saray khud karti hai or husband ka sath bhi day rahi hai ...jo taleem us nay hasil ki usay bhi istamal kar rahi hai or ghar ko bhi deekh rahi hai ....aisi aurtoun kay baray main kia kehtay hian aap loog?


kuch husband khud bhi to apni bewoeun ko allow kar daytay hian job karna ?:D:
:thmbup:g Anchal app nay bilkul theek kaha ahy k kuch aurtoon ko un k husband khud allow kr daity hain k woh job kr lain ...
jo aurtain bhi job krti hain un main say asri aik jaisi he nahi hoteen jo k apny gahr waloon ko bhi sath sath wqt na day skay...yhaan per compromise ke baat ati hay jitna compromise hoga problems utni he km hoon geen:)

Gul
3rd November 2007, 02:37
yeh mery sawal ka jawaab nahi hai :) mujhay zara wazeha jawaab chaye :roseor team B ki taraf say #123 post main keye gay sawal ka jawab bhi koi day me waiting :thmbup:

Baat KO WAziya andaz mein kijay plz.!

Gul
3rd November 2007, 02:41
or yehi baat ghar walye jab bahir jatay hain to kehtay hain kay uffff kitna acha lag raha hai ghar main aik hi jaga beath beath kay thak gay they ..hai na ?:wk

JEE BEYSHAK MAGAR SIRF WEEKEND PER ...warna jo roaz bahir niklay wo tu ...Ghar ak He chain se beyth-ta hai ....!

Gul
3rd November 2007, 02:49
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agar husband ki jeeb main itna maal hai :lol to kisi dosri jaga kaam karwanay main baqool aap kay kay dosray ka haq mara jata hai ...to usay apnnay sarmaey say apna koi kaam start karwa day ...:D: usay woh kaam karnay day jis main timming bhi in ki pasand ki hoo kay ghar ko bhi time day sakye or apnay kaam ko bhi ...is baray main kia khayal hai ?:wk

:rose

sirf miyan biwi ka mamla kio howa yeh sari khawateen ki baat kar rehay hain ham na kay jinhay itraaz hai khawateen ki job pay agar aisa kuch hoo to pher kia hona chaye ????/

sawal ka wazeha jawab dia karian na kay aisi situation ho to pher job kar sakti hain ????
or husband kay under reh kar kaam karna or ghar kar kaam donoo kamoun main faraq hota hai...:rose

SAhiba ek AADMi agar Buisness shoro kar k BIVI ko alag se oss mein fit nahi karta ...tu yeh oss ki marzi ..

Baqi Jo aur aurtoun ka moamla hai ....

TU ZAROORAT ki baat tu aap khud hee topic se nikal chuki hein ....Baqi Jo khawateen Sirf TIME PASS karany ya apnay QEEMTI ELM ko job k zariyay cash karna chahti hein hum oss k favor mein har giz nahi hein ....
beyshak ...husband k under reh kar kaam karna aur ghar mein kam karna laga hota ho gaa ...Magar wo kisi tur per jab ko pabandi nahi bardasht karti tu wo job b tu apni hee marzi se kisi aur company mein karay gee na ...warana wo ghar per reh kar apnay bachoun ka intezar karay , wo gahr jo os k hubby nay oss ko apni mehnat ki kamai se saja k diya hai ...aur jis mein oss ko kisis tarah ki koi kami nahi ..! ?

Gul
3rd November 2007, 02:57
Aurat compromise karay to yeh us ki Alazarfi ..or mard compromise na karay to usay kia kahiaan gay ?:cc:


Yehan debate mard aur aurat k mizajoun ka taqaza nahi sirf topic per baat kijay ! Kion k yeh baat ek alag taraf baat ko lay ja-ay gee ! :)


yeh un kay husband ki jealousy hai ....
bachay un kay baray hain or mashallha say sab theek thaak hain parhai main or har cheez main ...sab baray hain ....woh lady bhi teaching main kafi experience reakhti hain ....to un ko kaam na karnay dia jealousy hi hai husband ki ...

:) ..........SHyd aap iss waqt ek taraf ho k soach rahi hain ....actually basaa oqaat hum kisi k baaray mein ek ngah rakh lein tu janay bina hee oss k baray mein ek raviyay ( aptitude) zehan mein dil mein rakh leytay hein ..
Agar oss khaton ko oss k mian nay job karnay se roka...awal tu yeh waqi onn ka zaati momala hai :wk dosri baat yeh k ....jab bachay b baray ho gay ..aur onn ko kamanay ki koi khas wajh b tu honi chahiyay ...mard ki ghairat yeh gawara nahi kar rahi ho gee k oss ki BIVI daftroun mein ya kisi b tarah ki nokri mein dhakay kha-ay ..kion k wo duniya ....ki gandi nazroun se oss ko door rakhna chahta hai !!!!!!!!!!!!!! SIMPLE............aur aurat jo hama waqt yeh saochti hai k wo mard se behtar hai wo oss k apnay baray baray bachoun k aba k decision ko Jealousy keh rahi hai ....ufff be- chari AURAT:rolleyes:

Gul
3rd November 2007, 03:00
philosphy sirf sunnay main achi lagti hai lekan practical life main yeh buhat kam hi use ki jati hai :)

Kash Aanchal .bibi! aap PHILOSOPHY ko kabhi samjh k ghalat b sabit kar sakein ...! :yo:

Gul
3rd November 2007, 03:04
baki replies bad main ..
or baki team members kahan gay ?:rolleyes:
ham 2,3 loog hi boltay ja rehay hain :nunu:

WO beycharay shayd kisi ek baat per mutafiq ho gay houngay ....:):wk:D:


:tauba aur tum 2 - 3 log hi kitna boltey ho keh 7 page bhar diyey :lol

Aap shamil ho jatay tu shyd 14 safhay ho ja-at DOST! :) ... ab aap kijay nazaraa door dooor se :)

aap kis khushi main andar aye ?:hathora
shabash jaoo or sunday ko ana :zuban:

:) Chalein inn beycharay ghareeb maskeen awaam ko b kuch kehnay dein na ! :)

Gul
3rd November 2007, 03:13
aaj ki aurat khila ki bhi sair kar chuki hai woh ghar say bahir nikli hai to usay yeh maqaam mila na ? us nay taleem hasil ki pher usi taleem ko practical life main use kia pher usay woh maqaam mila ...ghar main rehnay wali aurat kabhi ghar beathay beathay chaand par pounch sakti hai?




:rose Kia manaa giya aurat ko ? ek aurat,,,bass ..JAB WO GAHR MEIN REH KAR APNAY AAP KO NA MANWAA SAKI jo muqamaat oss ko Qudrati tur per diyay gay hein...... tu bahir wo kia sabit karna chahti sab per? K wo BUHAT MODERN HAI BUHAT PARHI LIKHI HAI >>>> awaful situation ..aray baab apnay GHAR ko tu deykhein kidher ja raha hai ...!!!!!!!!!!

Gul
3rd November 2007, 03:17
bilkul theek kaha shaimor Allah ne orat or mard ko alag alag duties de kar dunya me bheja he mard par orat or bachon ki kafalat farz he jab ke orat par esi koi zimadari nahi.us par apne bachon ki tarbeyat or parwarsih ki zimadari daal kar dono ki duties ko banta gya he pata nahi orat kion ehsas-e-kamtari ka shikar he jo mard ki braberi karne ki dor me lag gai he jab ke us ka apna aik mukam heme en akser oraton ko ye kehte suna he k ham koi mardon se kam hen ya peeche hen jo ham ye kaam nahi kar sate jab ke dekha jaey to Allah ne orat mard ka mukabla to dala hi nahi.dono ki alag alag field he to mukabla kesa?jo kaam orat karti he wo mard nahi kar sakta.aik baby ko sambhalna serf orat hi kar sakti he.jo wo kahin se nahi seekhti ye Allah ne us ko salaheyat ata ki he


konsa mukam mila?mujhe lagta he hamara moashra maghribi moashre se mutaser he life stantard buland karne ke leay madi doar me shareek log..kia ye taraki he?ager yehi taraki ka mayaar he to batao maghribi orat aaj taraki ke kis buland mukam par he??wahan to sabhi gharon se nikal kar mard ke baraber pohanch chuki hen?

:welcome:Aap nay sahi kaha ! :thmbup: Hamara Moashraa ! Kis taraf ja raah hai andha dhundh behr chaal mein K hamari khawateen iss ka anjaam kabhi soach b nahi sakti ..chand per janay ka soachnay wali paksitan mein chand gariyun mein hee ...................! beychaari idher se odher khwar hoti hein , JO MUKAN KO GHAR nahi ...banati bul keh NIA MUQAM ban-nay ka saochti hein ..! Oh GOD :dua

Gul
3rd November 2007, 03:20
g sis app nay bilkul theek kaha hay k yhaan phir say agr wali he situation hay ...or jab khwateen ko zaroorat parti hay aisy kamoon ke to us k dil main or us ki zuban per yehi hota hay k agr woh thora bohat job ka experience rakhti to woh ajj zaroorat k wqt job kr sakti thi....abhi to app easly is agr or sakte hain to ignor kr rahi hain laikin is agr or sakte main bohat kuch ho jata hay jis ka illam khwateen ko baad main hota hay or woh apny app say he bohat swaal krti reh jati hain...to acha nahi k hum log un swaloon k liay intezar na krain or apny app main khud ko tiyar rkhain.......main yeh nahi kehti k future main job ke he zarorat per sakti hay ...or bhi bohat sari zaroriyat hoti hain...agr woh khud job nahi kary ge or mushkil wqt main agr or sakte hain ka swaal un ki zubaan per ho ga to wohi next generation ki zuban per bhi ho ga k agr hum log yeh kr laiti to yeh sab bhi kr sakte theen:):rose

ap ko apni salahiyutun per kion yaqeen nahi JIA jee ! k aap ksii b mushkil waqt mein sab Kuch kar sakti hein :)
Oh GOD aap aaj mein zinda rehan sikhiyay pehlay ! kal jab aaj banay gee na Tu khud ba khud ....aasaani rahay gee kion k aap AAJ mein rehna janti houn gee ! PLZ LIVE IN PRESENT ..:) LOTS OF MUSKANZ :):):):):):):)

Gul
3rd November 2007, 03:24
to app ka kia khiyal hay dear k mushkil wqt main apna kaam kr laina behtr hay yaan gadhy ko baap bnana behtr hy...........is ka mtlb hay k zarorat k wqt sirf haath he phaila'ay ja'ain..na k khud apny liay koi kaam kr lain or na to humain muhtaji ho or na he kisi ko gadhy ko baap bnana pary:)
agr koi aurat mushkil wqt main hoti hay to us ka mushkiloon main aik mushkil yeh bhi aa sakti hay k usay kmaana par jata hay to is ka mtlb yeh to nahi hay k woh job krny ki bja'ay dosroon k agy haath phail'ay aik to dusroon ki mohtaj ho or ooper say logoon ke batain sunay...

App zarrorat k waqt hath KION phailaein ...haan magar haath mila-ein ..bhar kar glaya lagaein PROBLEMS ko Face karein aur MAAT dein ...KION K AAP EK AURAT HEIN ..aap ko fakhar hoan chahiay k AAP AIK AURAT HEIN J:victory:O HARMUSHKIL MEIN APNI BAQAA K LIYAY SAB KUCH FACE KAR SAKTI HAI ..............! :victory:

Gul
3rd November 2007, 03:27
g haan hr koi apny life style say ukta jata hay or us main koi chaneg chahta hay ...laikin agr woh during job change chay to usay ba'assani rest mill sakta hay...kion k yeh humian sari zindagi nahi krni hoti...
or jis aurat ko apny ghar per aa ker sakoon milly ga woh usi sakoon ki base per ghar k baqe kaam bhi kr lay ge:)




JIS GHAR MEIN AURAT KHUD hee na Ho gee wo KAISY JANNAT BAN SAKTA HAI ....! :duh:

Gul
3rd November 2007, 04:20
no dear hum log yhaan per kisi ki abilities per shaq krny nahi aa'en..hum log to bohat achi freinds hain to yeh sab humain nahi krna ok...b happy:rose
main ajnti hoon k jab insan per mushkil aati hay to woh hr marhly ka samna kr laita ahy laikin is ka mtlb yeh to nahi k hum log mushkilaat ka intezar krain k jab mushkil sr per aan pary ge tabhi hum log hath pair marain gay otherwise kuch nahi krna...
or rahi MILK etc ke baat to app plz zra dubara us reply ko prhain jis ke base per app nay yeh kaha hay k yeh sab chezain raato raat mill sakte hain laikin job itni aasani say nahi milti or agr mill ja'ay to bghair kisi experience k hum say kuch nahi ho pa'ay ga....mainy yeh nahi kaha k yeh sab chezain raat-oraat nahi mill sakteen yaan store nahi ho sakteen...

Sirf ek Msukarahat! :)
ratoun rat ki baat tu hoi hee nahi !

AbgeenA
3rd November 2007, 07:06
:welcome:Aap nay sahi kaha ! :thmbup: Hamara Moashraa ! Kis taraf ja raah hai andha dhundh behr chaal mein K hamari khawateen iss ka anjaam kabhi soach b nahi sakti ..chand per janay ka soachnay wali paksitan mein chand gariyun mein hee ...................! beychaari idher se odher khwar hoti hein , JO MUKAN KO GHAR nahi ...banati bul keh NIA MUQAM ban-nay ka saochti hein ..! Oh GOD :dua
Allah ham par rehem kare:dua

Aanchal
3rd November 2007, 14:17
well 100 main say 2 loog he aisa kuch sochtay hoon gaye..jahan tak mera khayal hai.....jahan tak khayal rakhnay ki baat hai tu......i think keh yeh ik haath day or ik haath lay wali baat hai..keh ap kisi ka karo gaye tu koi ap ka karay ga.....kaya khayal hai...

main nay kab kaha kay sirf aik side say baat mani jaye ? :khi:donoo sides say compromise hona chaye ....:thmbup: tabhi sab kuch balance hoo kay chal sakta hai :thmbup:

Aanchal
3rd November 2007, 14:20
i m agree wid u....

but ap ko yeh nahi lagta keh....shadi say pehlay urat ager chahye tu job ker sakti hai....jo us nay perha hai..itni mehnat ki hai..us ko kuch tu use kerna chaiye na us ka...keh Allah na karay keh life main agay chal keh us ko koi prob ho.....tu wo eaisly kuch ker sakti hai apnay liye apnay gahar walon k liye.....ager us main confidence ho ga....himmat ho gi......




:thmbup: is sawal ka jawaab humye Team B ki taraf say abhi tak nahi mila :)

Aanchal
3rd November 2007, 14:27
bilkul theek kaha shaim:thmbup:or Allah ne orat or mard ko alag alag duties de kar dunya me bheja he mard par orat or bachon ki kafalat farz he jab ke orat par esi koi zimadari nahi.us par apne bachon ki tarbeyat or parwarsih ki zimadari daal kar dono ki duties ko banta gya he pata nahi orat kion ehsas-e-kamtari ka shikar he jo mard ki braberi karne ki dor me lag gai he jab ke us ka apna aik mukam he:donno:me en akser oraton ko ye kehte suna he k ham koi mardon se kam hen ya peeche hen jo ham ye kaam nahi kar sate jab ke dekha jaey to Allah ne orat mard ka mukabla to dala hi nahi.dono ki alag alag field he to mukabla kesa?:donno:jo kaam orat karti he wo mard nahi kar sakta.aik baby ko sambhalna serf orat hi kar sakti he.jo wo kahin se nahi seekhti ye Allah ne us ko salaheyat ata ki he:)
ham nay yeh kab kaha kay jo aurat ghars ay bahir jati hai woh bahir ki hi zimmdareoun ko poora karay ghar ko choor daye?:)

or ham nay yeh bhi nahi kaha kay aurat kay ghar main kaam paray hain to zabradsti bahir jaye :khi: ham nay kaha aurat ko job karni chaye shadi say pehlay kar sakti hai , shadi kay theek hai baby chotay houn us waqat time nahi to baby nay bara to hona hai na bad main pher start kar sakti hia :rose

AbgeenA
3rd November 2007, 14:38
ham nay yeh kab kaha kay jo aurat ghars ay bahir jati hai woh bahir ki hi zimmdareoun ko poora karay ghar ko choor daye?:)

or ham nay yeh bhi nahi kaha kay aurat kay ghar main kaam paray hain to zabradsti bahir jaye :khi: ham nay kaha aurat ko job karni chaye shadi say pehlay kar sakti hai , shadi kay theek hai baby chotay houn us waqat time nahi to baby nay bara to hona hai na bad main pher start kar sakti hia :rose
to ham bhi to yehi keh rahe hen na k ager zarurat nahi he job ki to na kare na esi bhi kia majburi khwar hone ki:taubaab parh likh lia or digree le li he to nokri bhi zarur karni he ye kis hakeem ne kaha he:khi:

Shaim
3rd November 2007, 14:43
agar woh donoo zimdaaroeoun ko sahi sanbhaal sakti hai ..apna talent donoo jaghoun pay sahi istamal kar sakti hai pher kia masla hai ?:lpop:


sisso......peir ager do alag alag kishtion mai hoon........to kesy balance rahy ga.......:lpop:

Aanchal
3rd November 2007, 14:43
to ham bhi to yehi keh rahe hen na k ager zarurat nahi he job ki to na kare na esi bhi kia majburi khwar hone ki:taubaab parh likh lia or digree le li he to nokri bhi zarur karni he ye kis hakeem ne kaha he:khi:

:na:aap loog yeh keh rehay hoo kay woh job karay hi na :lpop:
ham keh rehay hain woh job karey ....yeh nahi keh rehay sari zindagi hi karni hai ...:khi: bas parh likh lia or baat khutem ?:D


pehlay main pechli post ka jawab day doun pher yaha ati houn :D:

Aanchal
3rd November 2007, 14:45
konsa mukam mila?:)mujhe lagta he hamara moashra maghribi moashre se mutaser he life stantard buland karne ke leay madi doar me shareek log..kia ye taraki he?ager yehi taraki ka mayaar he to batao maghribi orat aaj taraki ke kis buland mukam par he??wahan to sabhi gharon se nikal kar mard ke baraber pohanch chuki hen?:)

science ki taraqqi koi taraqqi nahi aap ki nazar main ? pher ham is sadi main yaha kia kar rehay hian :tauba ham pechli sadi hi main sahi they pher :khi:

aap nay maghrabi mushray ki baat ki hai woh un ka apna zamhab bhi unhay allowed karta hai sab kuch or society bhi tab hi to woh aisi hain :khi: is main science or techonology ka koi qasoor nahi hai :D:

Aanchal
3rd November 2007, 14:47
g sis app nay bilkul theek kaha hay k yhaan phir say agr wali he situation hay ...or jab khwateen ko zaroorat parti hay aisy kamoon ke to us k dil main or us ki zuban per yehi hota hay k agr woh thora bohat job ka experience rakhti to woh ajj zaroorat k wqt job kr sakti thi....abhi to app easly is agr or sakte hain to ignor kr rahi hain laikin is agr or sakte main bohat kuch ho jata hay jis ka illam khwateen ko baad main hota hay or woh apny app say he bohat swaal krti reh jati hain...to acha nahi k hum log un swaloon k liay intezar na krain or apny app main khud ko tiyar rkhain.......main yeh nahi kehti k future main job ke he zarorat per sakti hay ...or bhi bohat sari zaroriyat hoti hain...agr woh khud job nahi kary ge or mushkil wqt main agr or sakte hain ka swaal un ki zubaan per ho ga to wohi next generation ki zuban per bhi ho ga k agr hum log yeh kr laiti to yeh sab bhi kr sakte theen:):rose
:clap::clap:

Aanchal
3rd November 2007, 14:55
to app ka kia khiyal hay dear k mushkil wqt main apna kaam kr laina behtr hay yaan gadhy ko baap bnana behtr hy...........is ka mtlb hay k zarorat k wqt sirf haath he phaila'ay ja'ain..na k khud apny liay koi kaam kr lain or na to humain muhtaji ho or na he kisi ko gadhy ko baap bnana pary:)
agr koi aurat mushkil wqt main hoti hay to us ka mushkiloon main aik mushkil yeh bhi aa sakti hay k usay kmaana par jata hay to is ka mtlb yeh to nahi hay k woh job krny ki bja'ay dosroon k agy haath phail'ay aik to dusroon ki mohtaj ho or ooper say logoon ke batain sunay...

:thmbup:

main do families ki misaal deena chahoun gee kay aik aurat ko main janti houn apni life main kush the Mashallha say kafi saray bachay hian they un kay beetiyan bari or beetay chotay they un ka hubby foot hoo gia ...us ki kisi nay help nahi ki woh ab zakaat liti hai :) ..yeh keh deena kay zarorat paray tab karay to zarorat parnay pay aksar auqaat halat buhat ajeeb hoo jatay hian banda kuch nahi kar sakta ..

or dosri misaal yeh kay aik lady larkeoun ki job kay kheelaf the ..apni beetoun ko bhi job nahi karnay di or shadi kar di ...abhi us aurat say mulaqaat hovi to herayat hove un ki donoo beetiyan job kar rahi hian or is lady nay khud job dilwai hai :) in larkeoun kay parents zinda they to in ki help say unhay asani hoo gai ...warna to zindagi main aisi stages a jati hain kay buhat mushkil hoo jata hai yeh sab karna ......
agar pehlay say in sab batoun kay leye tayaar hoo jaya jaye to yeh maslaye to nahi aian gay na :)

Shaim
3rd November 2007, 15:00
My Observation:


jo women job krti hain......kiya apny soocha k unky babies jo kaafi chooti age k hooty hain wo kitna suffer krty hain?
mainy khud dekha hai newly born babies day care centres mai hooty hain jahan pr unki proper care krny wala koi nahi hoota
jo Ayas wahan hooti hain......unky zimmy itny bacchy hooty hain k wo proper kisy ko nahi dekh saktiin...

+ bachoon ka bunyaadi haqq unhy nahi mil paata......q k unki Moms chahy jitna bhi manage krny ki koshish karin 9 to 5 normal timings hain job k jab adhy se ziada din beet chuka hoota hai to phr babies to zahir hai suffer krty hain

similarly ik or factor k un bachon ki attachement apni Moms se ziada hooti hai jin ki parwarish Maa'n k hathon se or poori tawajju se hoi ho.......wo bachy jo day care centres mai rahy hoon khud ko ignored feel krty hain n so jese jese bary hooty jaty hain complexed hooty jaty hain.

so this is the major factor jo k clearly ye prove krta hai k Females ko job her giz nahi krti chahye q k or bhi kae priorities hooti hain :)

Coming with next factor soon INSHALLAH :salam:

Aanchal
3rd November 2007, 15:00
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right ...
larkiyan jab choti hoti hian to un say pooucha jaye aap baray hoo kay kia banian gee to woh humesha yehi kahian gee teacher , doctor wakeel waghera :D: koi larki yeh nahi kahye gee bari hoo kay bachay or khawanid ko paloun gee :khi: or yeh cheezian woh shuru say zehan main lay kar agay barhti hain ....or taleem bhi hasil kar kay jab woh us maqaam tak pounchti han kay unhay yeh sab karnay diajaye to jo yehi baat a jati hai kay shadi hoo gai ghar beathoo :bb: .... jab us ki yeh khawaishat poori nahi houn gee to woh ghar main kesay khushi or sakoon say kaam karay gee :) ..beshak ghar bhi us ki zimdari hai lekan woh apni khawaishaat or ghar donoo ko sahi lay kay chalye to pher koi masla nahi hona chaye kisi ko :)

job karnay kay leye us kay achay or booray asraat deekhian ...sirf yeh samajh kar inkaar na kar dia jaye kay bas ji yeh job main ata hai or job karni hi nahi ...

Aanchal
3rd November 2007, 15:04
Baat KO WAziya andaz mein kijay plz.!

mery sawaal kay jawab main mera jawaab :hehe:

ji baat yeh hai kay jo sawaal poucha tha us ka jawaab chaye mujhay :D:

or post #123 ka bahi :thmbup:


ab theek ?

Aanchal
3rd November 2007, 15:08
JEE BEYSHAK MAGAR SIRF WEEKEND PER ...warna jo roaz bahir niklay wo tu ...Ghar ak He chain se beyth-ta hai ....!

nop sirf weekend nahi jab koi masla a jaye tab bhi yehi kaha jata hai bahir kay kaam atay to yeh maslaye na hotay khud hi sab kuch kar laytay hum ...

ab zahir hai banda ka ghar usay sakoon daita hai lekan zaida sakoon say bhi uktahat hoo jati hai aksar :bb:

Aanchal
3rd November 2007, 15:11
acha aik cheez main nay note ki hai jo khawateen sirf gharoun main rehti hain to woh sirf ghar ki hi hoo jati hai aksar ko bahir kay kaam main buhat mushkelaat hoti hain ..or dosroun say kehna parta hai mujhay yeh karwa doo woh karwa doo or cheezoun ki info bhi kam hoo jati hai ..hubby kay paas itna time kaha jo woh yeh sab karay us kay leye .........bahir ki khawateen ko yeh maslaye kam hotay hian .... Muhtaaji wali baat in main kam paai jati hai apnay peeroun pay khari hoti hain ...kisi cheez ka dil chaye husband na day sakiay(jaiz zaroreyaat) to woh apni kamai say lay sakti hain ....husband ko taanay bhi nahi millian gay tum yeh yeh nahi la saktay mery leye :khi: ...zaida bari na sahi to choti moti khawaishat to poori kar sakti hain na apni ...

Shaim
3rd November 2007, 15:18
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right ...
larkiyan jab choti hoti hian to un say pooucha jaye aap baray hoo kay kia banian gee to woh humesha yehi kahian gee teacher , doctor wakeel waghera :D: koi larki yeh nahi kahye gee bari hoo kay bachay or khawanid ko paloun gee :khi: or yeh cheezian woh shuru say zehan main lay kar agay barhti hain ....or taleem bhi hasil kar kay jab woh us maqaam tak pounchti han kay unhay yeh sab karnay diajaye to jo yehi baat a jati hai kay shadi hoo gai ghar beathoo :bb: .... jab us ki yeh khawaishat poori nahi houn gee to woh ghar main kesay khushi or sakoon say kaam karay gee :) ..beshak ghar bhi us ki zimdari hai lekan woh apni khawaishaat or ghar donoo ko sahi lay kay chalye to pher koi masla nahi hona chaye kisi ko :)

job karnay kay leye us kay achay or booray asraat deekhian ...sirf yeh samajh kar inkaar na kar dia jaye kay bas ji yeh job main ata hai or job karni hi nahi ...

well mujeh acchi tarah yaad hai k jb me was kid :D main to her ik saal baad job badalti thi kabhi teacher kabhi doctor kabhi pilot kabhi engineer kabhi ye kabhi wo :D

sisso bachy to bachy hi hooty hain wo buhat kuch sochty hain but time or observation buhat kuch sikhaati hai k kiya sahee hai or kiya ghalt......mujeh after marriage saraaa jahan job k lye kahy tab bhi main nahi karoon gi......coz i know my Family n House ll surely suffer :)

itni chooti umer mai kahan babies n husband ka khyal hoota hai :D wo to bus masoom c sooch hooti hai lolzZ :D

m really laughing :D :D :D

Aanchal
3rd November 2007, 15:24
:rose


SAhiba ek AADMi agar Buisness shoro kar k BIVI ko alag se oss mein fit nahi karta ...tu yeh oss ki marzi ..

yeh kia baat hovi husband ko jo kaam pasand na hoo woh us ki marzi or biwi pay saray faraiz a jatay hian us ki marzi nahi chalnay daytay .....ajeeb baat hai ji :lpop:

no dear marzi warzi ki koi baat nahi hai jis nay nahi karna nahi karnay day ga ........jealousy :hehe:

Baqi Jo aur aurtoun ka moamla hai ....

TU ZAROORAT ki baat tu aap khud hee topic se nikal chuki hein ....

aap ko mere sahi batian topic say nikli hovi lagnay to main ab kia keh sakti houn :donno: ..
mera point sirf job hai usi say related batian hi main nay ki hain :thmbup:

Baqi Jo khawateen Sirf TIME PASS karany ya apnay QEEMTI ELM ko job k zariyay cash karna chahti hein hum oss k favor mein har giz nahi hein ....


acha aap khawateen ki kitni taleem kay haq main hain ? or kasi taleem ?
beyshak ...husband k under reh kar kaam karna aur ghar mein kam karna laga hota ho gaa ...Magar wo kisi tur per jab ko pabandi nahi bardasht karti tu wo job b tu apni hee marzi se kisi aur company mein karay gee na ...warana wo ghar per reh kar apnay bachoun ka intezar karay , wo gahr jo os k hubby nay oss ko apni mehnat ki kamai se saja k diya hai ...aur jis mein oss ko kisis tarah ki koi kami nahi ..! ?

yeh to aap sirf apna point of view keh rahi hian kay aia mumkin nahi ...to jo cheez aap ki nazroun say nahi guzri aap yeh keh doo gay kay aisa to mumkin hi nahi ?:mm: main is ki misaam day chuki houn kay aik aurta apnay husband kay computer business main hath batai hai ...:lpop:

Shaim
3rd November 2007, 15:25
JEE JEE buhat sahi kaha :) Fully Agreed ...itni se baat inn ki samjh mein nahi aa rahai deykhein na .............:tauba

Going Good Gul :cool: :salam:

Aanchal
3rd November 2007, 15:28
Yehan debate mard aur aurat k mizajoun ka taqaza nahi sirf topic per baat kijay ! Kion k yeh baat ek alag taraf baat ko lay ja-ay gee ! :)

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yeh kia baat hovi ham koi baat karian to aap kehti hain yeh to topic main hi nahi hai
:na:
kuch batian direct topic say milti hain kuch ka indirect link milk milta hai ...lekan link milta hai isi leye to ki hain :rose

Shaim
3rd November 2007, 15:31
khawaishat or wishes aik hi kheet ki mooli hai na :lol
yeh dabian woh dabaian har cheez daba daba kay aik din khud zameen main dab jaian ...yehi hai zindagi ?:donno:


:kr: kuch na dabain......:D

just compare k apki wish sirf apny tak hi mehdood hai ya ap sab k lye sochty hain?
kiya ap sirf apni hi wishes k lye soochin gy?
unky lye nahi jo apka time mangty hain or apki tawajju bhi.......or jinka haqq hai ap per? :)

Shaim
3rd November 2007, 15:35
:na:bachoun ki zimmdari donoo ki hai ..ham yeh nahi kehs aktay mard kar laian to barapan hai or na karay to un pay yeh zimmdari nahi hai ......

woh aisi job karey jis say woh sab theek waqat pay kar lay to ? 7 bajye na to kam waqat key leye job karey pher ?


Normal timings office jon k 9 to 5 hain :drama:
teaching mai timings zara kam hooty hain till 2 o clock :stars:

Shaim
3rd November 2007, 15:39
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Mein As A MEMBER OF TEAM B ....iss debate ko aagay barhaati hoon!

start tu kher jab aap favor mein hoon tu always easy hota hai
:) aap nay do reasons dee khawateen k job karnay ki...
Ek earn karna ,aur second Taleem ka usage ...
hum apni zarooriyat ko mehdood agar rakhein ..fazooliyat se bachein, kafayat shoaari se kaam lein tu hum khwateen ko job ki koi zaroorat nahi...
Rahii..taaleem ka behtareen istemal apnay bachoun ki parvarish hai. kion k sab se pehla madresa( school) Maan ki GOUD( lap) yani ghar hota hai
.ya agar aap iss ko aur b masbat aur mofeed karna chahti hain
tu Islaahi turr per kaam kijay charity bases per bachoun parha-iyay....
ya phir aisi khwateen tak elm ki roshni puhancha-ein ..jo beychaari kisi wajh se nahi parh sakein...Os sk li-ay JOB karnay ki Qata`an zaroorat nahi .! :)


orat ka asal mukam us ka ghar he jahan us ko bohat sara waqt dena hota he,bachon ki tarbeyat karna hoti he or ye aik full time job he is ke elawa phir mazeed kisi job ki kia zarurat he?:donno:ager wo ghar ko bhi dekhe or job bhi kare to wo phir double kaam kare gi or natija thakawat or zehni tension ho ga jo us ke ghar or bachon par bure asraat muratab kare ga.aj ke doar me insan me bardasht kam ho chuki he is leay k insan ne khud ko bilawaja hi dher saer bakheron me masroof kar lia he.purane waqton me khwateen gharon par rehne ko tarjeeh dia karti thein to ghar pursakoon raha karte the jab ke aaj dekh lein kese asaani se ghar toot jate hen.



Good Bravos.........!:lpop:

Aanchal
3rd November 2007, 16:28
Agar oss khaton ko oss k mian nay job karnay se roka...awal tu yeh waqi onn ka zaati momala hai :wk

pher zaati mamla :rolleyes:

dosri baat yeh k ....jab bachay b baray ho gay ..aur onn ko kamanay ki koi khas wajh b tu honi chahiyay ...mard ki ghairat yeh gawara nahi kar rahi ho gee k oss ki BIVI daftroun mein ya kisi b tarah ki nokri mein dhakay kha-ay ..kion k wo duniya ....ki gandi nazroun se oss ko door rakhna chahta hai !!!!!!!!!!!!!! SIMPLE............aur aurat jo hama waqt yeh saochti hai k wo mard se behtar hai wo oss k apnay baray baray bachoun k aba k decision ko Jealousy keh rahi hai ....ufff be- chari AURAT:rolleyes:


woh teaching karna chahti the ..unhay kisi daftar kay dhakay nahi kahnay partay ...bachay bhi sab mature they or woh khud bhi maa kay favour main they ...or wohaurat 50 kay qareeb the :D:

yeh sararsar Zaidaiti hai us kay sath ....us nay sari znidagi hubby ka sath dia ab is age main bhi hubby usay apni khushi say kaam nahi karnay daian to zaiti hai ...jab kay bachay baray they sab apnay kamoun main masroof ...woh aurat ghar beath kay deewaoun say sar takraye gee ?

Aanchal
3rd November 2007, 16:30
Kash Aanchal .bibi! aap PHILOSOPHY ko kabhi samjh k ghalat b sabit kar sakein ...! :yo:

theek hai is pay debate reakhian gay kabhi or vohi share karoun gee :wk

Aanchal
3rd November 2007, 16:32
:) Chalein inn beycharay ghareeb maskeen awaam ko b kuch kehnay dein na ! :)[/B]

kal is gareeb awaam kay leye yeh Mehal khool dia jaye ga :kr:

Aanchal
3rd November 2007, 16:37
:rose Kia manaa giya aurat ko ? ek aurat,,,bass ..JAB WO GAHR MEIN REH KAR APNAY AAP KO NA MANWAA SAKI jo muqamaat oss ko Qudrati tur per diyay gay hein...... tu bahir wo kia sabit karna chahti sab per? K wo BUHAT MODERN HAI BUHAT PARHI LIKHI HAI >>>> awaful situation ..aray baab apnay GHAR ko tu deykhein kidher ja raha hai ...!!!!!!!!!!

ghar main rehnay wali aksar khawateen job na kar kay bhi halaat peda karti hain jo aap nay bataye hian :lpop:
samajhdar aurat har cheez theek reakh sakti hai :lpop:

Aanchal
3rd November 2007, 16:41
sisso......peir ager do alag alag kishtion mai hoon........to kesy balance rahy ga.......:lpop:

alag alag kashityian kio aik hi kashti main sawaar hoo kay donoo machlian pakrian :kr:

karnay walye sab kuch kar laytay hain dear or jo na karna chaye un kay paas soo bahanay hotay hian :D:

Aanchal
3rd November 2007, 16:52
My Observation:


jo women job krti hain......kiya apny soocha k unky babies jo kaafi chooti age k hooty hain wo kitna suffer krty hain?
mainy khud dekha hai newly born babies day care centres mai hooty hain jahan pr unki proper care krny wala koi nahi hoota
jo Ayas wahan hooti hain......unky zimmy itny bacchy hooty hain k wo proper kisy ko nahi dekh saktiin...

+ bachoon ka bunyaadi haqq unhy nahi mil paata......q k unki Moms chahy jitna bhi manage krny ki koshish karin 9 to 5 normal timings hain job k jab adhy se ziada din beet chuka hoota hai to phr babies to zahir hai suffer krty hain

similarly ik or factor k un bachon ki attachement apni Moms se ziada hooti hai jin ki parwarish Maa'n k hathon se or poori tawajju se hoi ho.......wo bachy jo day care centres mai rahy hoon khud ko ignored feel krty hain n so jese jese bary hooty jaty hain complexed hooty jaty hain.

so this is the major factor jo k clearly ye prove krta hai k Females ko job her giz nahi krti chahye q k or bhi kae priorities hooti hain :)

Coming with next factor soon INSHALLAH :salam:


agar babies baray joo jaian tab job karian ? or babies na houn tab job karian ? to ?:)
ham yeh to nahi keh rehay aap zabardasti usi waqat job karian :donno: ...

Aanchal
3rd November 2007, 16:57
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well mujeh acchi tarah yaad hai k jb me was kid :D main to her ik saal baad job badalti thi kabhi teacher kabhi doctor kabhi pilot kabhi engineer kabhi ye kabhi wo :D

sisso bachy to bachy hi hooty hain wo buhat kuch sochty hain but time or observation buhat kuch sikhaati hai k kiya sahee hai or kiya ghalt......mujeh after marriage saraaa jahan job k lye kahy tab bhi main nahi karoon gi......coz i know my Family n House ll surely suffer :)

itni chooti umer mai kahan babies n husband ka khyal hoota hai :D wo to bus masoom c sooch hooti hai lolzZ :D

m really laughing :D :D :D


bachpan say zehan main lay kay chalti hian pher isay agay bhi to barhati hai or jab khawaab poora honay wala hota hai tab a kay NO ..............
ok tumhari apna point of view hai beshak na karoo job :D

AbgeenA
3rd November 2007, 17:27
:na:aap loog yeh keh rehay hoo kay woh job karay hi na :lpop:
ham keh rehay hain woh job karey ....yeh nahi keh rehay sari zindagi hi karni hai ...:khi: bas parh likh lia or baat khutem ?:D


pehlay main pechli post ka jawab day doun pher yaha ati houn :D:
nahi parh likh kar baat khatam nahi hoti ,parha likha kia serf nokri ke leay hi jata he?:blush:parh likh kar ham apni shakseyat ko mukamal karte hen apme ander ke insan ko satisfied karte hen phir hamari taleem hamare ghar me kaam ati he.aik parhi likhi larki aik achi beti,behen,wife or aik achi mother banti he or apne kids ki achi tarbeyat karti he.degree lene ka matlan mehez job hasil karna nahi hona chaey:)or jab hath me digree ho gi to life me kabhi zarurat par jaey ya mood ban jaey jese kids bare ho jaen to job kare lekin ye must nahi hona chaey k bas ager parh likh lia he to job to har haal me karni hi karni he warna "salaheyeton"ko zang lag jaey ga:khi:

AbgeenA
3rd November 2007, 17:33
science ki taraqqi koi taraqqi nahi aap ki nazar main ? pher ham is sadi main yaha kia kar rehay hian :tauba ham pechli sadi hi main sahi they pher :khi:

aap nay maghrabi mushray ki baat ki hai woh un ka apna zamhab bhi unhay allowed karta hai sab kuch or society bhi tab hi to woh aisi hain :khi: is main science or techonology ka koi qasoor nahi hai :D:
pehle mujhe aap bataen k aap ki apni nazaer me taraki kia he?or aap ka apna kitna hisa he is science ki taraki me?me apne ghar me bethi apne laptop se net ke zareay aap se baat kar rahi hon yehi taraki he na?to is me mera kia hisa he?na me job karti hon na me ne ye ejaad kia he?:khi:parhi likhi hon ghar walon ne sahulat faraham ki to use kar rahi hon:D:pichli sadi me hoti to ghar me bethi koi karhai silai kar rahi hoti,job na ab kar rahi hon na tab kar rahi hoti to mere khyalaat to same hi rehte na:kr:
or maghribi tehzeeb un logon ko un ke mazhab ne ijazat nahi di bulke unhon ne ese hi hasil kar li jese aaj hamari orat hasil karne ke chakar me he,naam nihaad azaadi or mard ke brabri ke chakar me:taubawarna un ka mazhab bhi is tarah kii taraki ki ijazat nahi deta

Gul
3rd November 2007, 21:27
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Aanchal
4th November 2007, 09:57
debate ka End honay wala hai aap loog apni post ka end karnay ki kushish karian :D:
kuch ghantoo bad End kar doun gee is ka main apni akhri post kay sath :eye:
jab tak main End na karoun Awaam abhi postings na karian :D

jia
4th November 2007, 11:16
ap ko apni salahiyutun per kion yaqeen nahi JIA jee ! k aap ksii b mushkil waqt mein sab Kuch kar sakti hein :)
Oh GOD aap aaj mein zinda rehan sikhiyay pehlay ! kal jab aaj banay gee na Tu khud ba khud ....aasaani rahay gee kion k aap AAJ mein rehna janti houn gee ! PLZ LIVE IN PRESENT ..:) LOTS OF MUSKANZ :):):):):):):)
mujhy khud per or baqe aurtoon per bhi bohat yaqeen hay dear sis...main janti hoon k hum log kisi bhi mushkil wqt ka samna kr sakti hain or hr problem ko face kr sakti hain laikin agr hum log un problems ko aany ak moqa he na dain geen to is main kia hrj hay????
main presnt main he hoon laikin apny kal ke fikar kisay nahi hoti kon hay jo aany wally kal k liay preshan nahi hota hay kon hay jo chahta hay k usay anny wally kal main koi preshani ho...


App zarrorat k waqt hath KION phailaein ...haan magar haath mila-ein ..bhar kar glaya lagaein PROBLEMS ko Face karein aur MAAT dein ...KION K AAP EK AURAT HEIN ..aap ko fakhar hoan chahiay k AAP AIK AURAT HEIN J:victory:O HARMUSHKIL MEIN APNI BAQAA K LIYAY SAB KUCH FACE KAR SAKTI HAI ..............! :victory:
zarorat k wqt logoon ko jo asaan kaam lgta hay woh wohi krty hain or mostly log zaroorat k wqt jab unhain kuch ata jata na ho to woh log haath eh phailaty hain .....
mujhy fakhar hay k main aik aurat hoon or ALLAH ka lakh lakh shukr ada krti hoon k us nay mujhy is moqam k qabil samjha:dua
agr kuch ata jata nahi ho ga to hum problems ko face krny ki bjay logoon k face daikhty reh ja'ain gay...


JIS GHAR MEIN AURAT KHUD hee na Ho gee wo KAISY JANNAT BAN SAKTA HAI ....! :duh:
to miny aisa kab kaha k aurat ghar per na rhay:tauba...us ka job ka time jab khatam ho a to woh ghar per he ho ge:tauba...usay kon sa sari zindagi apny ghar he nahi ana hota k woh job kr rahi hay to ghar nahi aa'ay ge...aurat jo janat bnati hay woh itni kachi nahi hoti k us k kuch pal bahir rehny say us jannat ko koi noqsaan ho ga

Sirf ek Msukarahat! :)
ratoun rat ki baat tu hoi hee nahi !

alots of muskaraht:):):):)
kion k rat-o-raat ke baat app nay nahi mainy ki thi jis ka jwaab app nay dia tha ...app shayed bhol gai hain .....zara dubbara check kr lain k kia baat hoe thi:)

jia
4th November 2007, 11:21
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aik pal k liay mujhy laga k app judge hain or ap[p nay eh batana hay k tem A or B kaisy jaa rahy hain:hehe::hehe:
waisy agr app ko humary comments main dam nzara aany lag gai to app ko mukhalif tem nahi kaha ja saky ga is trhaan to app ki mukhalfat khatam ho ja'ay ge na:bb:
app nay bohat achi sahring ke hay i like it:rose
laikin humaru moashry main kai khwateen aisi hain jo k ghar per bilkul akaili rehti hain un k saath koi mard nahi hota ....yaan to woh unhain chod kr jaa chukky hoty hain yaan phir un ki death ho chuki hoti hay ...to aisi aurtain kai krain geen...apny bachoon ko kaisy palain geen unhain kahan say khailain geen ????aisi halat main to unhain khud he koi qdam uthana pary ga na....

Gul
4th November 2007, 20:04
ہم اپنی باتوں* کو منوانے میں اتنا محو ہو جاتے ہیں کہ ، زندگی کی سبھی کوسششیں اُسی میں*صرف کر دیتے ہیں ۔۔
سب سے پہلے ۔۔۔آنچل جی آپ کی مشکور ہوں کہ آپ نے کچھ ٹائم دینے کا تو فیصلہ کیا ! میرے ٹائم ریجن کی وجہ سے کچھ مسئلہ ہے دوسری بات کہ ویک اینڈ پر مصروفیت بھی ہے۔۔۔اس بار! بہرحال۔۔۔
پیاری جیا!
آپ نے میری کچھ باتوں*کو کوٹ کیا ہے ۔۔وہی باتیں جو کئی بار ہو چکیں۔۔ آپ نے کہا کہ اگر مجھے آپ کی بات میں دم لگتا تو میں شاید ٹیم بی میں نہ رہتی ۔۔۔۔صحیح فرمایا ۔۔۔۔
مگر کسی دلیل میں کچھ دم ہونا لازمی ہے ۔۔۔۔یہ میں نے عرض کیا تھا ! اب یہ کہ جب وقت کم اور مقابلہ سخت والی صورتحال آن پہنچی ہے ۔ تو میں اپنی لاسٹ*پوسٹ کو ہی کافی سمجھتی ہوں ۔۔۔
اسلام ہمیں ‘‘عورتوں کو ’’ ہر طرح کی آزادی دیتا ہے ۔ کہ ہم ۔زندگی کو کس طرح گُزاریں ، وہ کہین بھی سختی نہیں رکھتا، کئی احادیث سے یہ ثابت ہوتا ہے کہ بحالتِ مجبوری عورت گھر سے باہر نکل سکتی ہے ۔۔۔۔ملازمت کے لیئے
عورت کو اگر دیکھا جائے تو محفوظ رکھنے کے لیئے ۔۔۔۔شاپنگ کے لیئے بھی جانا ،،،نہیں چاہیئے ۔۔۔مگر اگر وہ ستر پردہ قائم رکھیں تو وہ بہ آسانی گھوم پھر سکتی ہیں ۔۔۔مگر بہتر جگہ پھر بھی اپنا گھر ہے۔۔یہ میں اُس وقت کی بات کر رہی ہوں جب آپ کو مجبوری نہ ہو ۔۔مسجدمیں نماز پڑھنے کی کتنی فضیلت ہے یہ ہم سب جانتے ہیں مگر وہاں بھی عورت کے لیئئ یہی حکم ہے کہ وہ جانا چاہے تو کچھ شرائط کے ساتھ جا سکتی ہے مگر گھر کا کونا اُس کے لیئے افضل ترین ہے جہاں وہ نماز ادا کرے ۔۔
یہ سب کہنے کا مقصد صرف اتنا ہے ۔۔۔کہ ضرورت کے وقت ،،،،جب کوئی بھی دوسرا چارہ نہ ہو! تو بھیک مانگنے کی بجائے تو عورت نوکری کرے مگر ۔۔آپ دیکھیں کہ ہمارے ہاں عورت نوکری کب کب کرتی ہے جب کہ اُس کے شوہر بھی نوکری کر رہے ہیں تو صرف اپنا لائف سٹائیل بڑھانے کے لیئے ، یا ضروریات پوری کرنے کے لیئے ۔۔۔یا یہ ثابت کرنے کے لیئے کہ ہم بھی کسی سے کم نہیں ، یا کیا ہم کو اپنی خواہشات کو پورا کرنے کا حق نہیں۔۔۔۔
تو پیارے لوگو ! جب یہ باتیں رکھ کر ملازمت کی جائے تو ۔۔یہ سرا سر عورت اپنے ساتھ ظلم کر رہی ہے ۔۔۔اور معاشرے میں بُرائی پھیلانے کی وجہ بن رہی ہے ۔۔۔۔کیوں ۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔!؟ یہ آپ سب اچھی طرح جانتے ہیں ۔۔نوکری کے لیئے برقع یا عبایہ اوڑھ کر کم ہی خواتین جاتی ہیں ۔۔وہ خوشبو کا استعمال بھی کرتی ہیں*، کہ جس کے بارے میں یہ حکم ہے کہ وہ اگر غیر مرد کو خوشبو آ جائے تو ۔۔۔وہ ،،،،،،،،،،،،،،! عورت جنت کی خوشبو کو بھی نہیں چھو سکتی ۔۔۔ خواتیں بنتی سنورتی ہیں ۔۔ جو ۔۔۔بہرحال اگر حد میں عورت رہ سکتی ہے ۔۔۔۔اور اُس کے پاس کوئی اور وجہ نہیں رہتی جینے کی ۔۔تو اسلام اجازت دیتا ہے ۔۔مگر ۔۔کیا عورت اُس حد کو قائم رکھ سکتی ہے ۔۔۔کیونکہ جب ملازمت کی شرائط ہی ۔۔خوش لباسی ، خوبصورت اور کم عمری ہو۔۔!؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

Gul
4th November 2007, 20:07
aik pal k liay mujhy laga k app judge hain or ap[p nay eh batana hay k tem A or B kaisy jaa rahy hain:hehe::hehe:
waisy agr app ko humary comments main dam nzara aany lag gai to app ko mukhalif tem nahi kaha ja saky ga is trhaan to app ki mukhalfat khatam ho ja'ay ge na:bb:
app nay bohat achi sahring ke hay i like it:rose




Tehreer ko pasand karnay ka shukriya...! :) :rose

Aanchal
4th November 2007, 21:17
nahi parh likh kar baat khatam nahi hoti ,parha likha kia serf nokri ke leay hi jata he?:blush:parh likh kar ham apni shakseyat ko mukamal karte hen apme ander ke insan ko satisfied karte hen phir hamari taleem hamare ghar me kaam ati he.aik parhi likhi larki aik achi beti,behen,wife or aik achi mother banti he or apne kids ki achi tarbeyat karti he.degree lene ka matlan mehez job hasil karna nahi hona chaey:)or jab hath me digree ho gi to life me kabhi zarurat par jaey ya mood ban jaey jese kids bare ho jaen to job kare lekin ye must nahi hona chaey k bas ager parh likh lia he to job to har haal me karni hi karni he warna "salaheyeton"ko zang lag jaey ga:khi:

yep parhai likhai sirf noukri kay leye nahi ki jati ...parh likh kay insaan apnay ghar ko or musharay ko bhi sudhray :) ...zang to lag sakta hai :wk har haal main na sahi jab mouka millye zaror karian :lpop:

Aanchal
4th November 2007, 21:21
pehle mujhe aap bataen k aap ki apni nazaer me taraki kia he?or aap ka apna kitna hisa he is science ki taraki me?me apne ghar me bethi apne laptop se net ke zareay aap se baat kar rahi hon yehi taraki he na?to is me mera kia hisa he?na me job karti hon na me ne ye ejaad kia he?:khi:parhi likhi hon ghar walon ne sahulat faraham ki to use kar rahi hon:D:pichli sadi me hoti to ghar me bethi koi karhai silai kar rahi hoti,job na ab kar rahi hon na tab kar rahi hoti to mere khyalaat to same hi rehte na:kr:
or maghribi tehzeeb un logon ko un ke mazhab ne ijazat nahi di bulke unhon ne ese hi hasil kar li jese aaj hamari orat hasil karne ke chakar me he,naam nihaad azaadi or mard ke brabri ke chakar me:taubawarna un ka mazhab bhi is tarah kii taraki ki ijazat nahi deta

pechli sadi main jaoo to pata chalye :p tab abhi ki importance ka andaza hoo ga :wk
azadi honi chaye ..zaror honi chaye ...aik aurta islam kay sab rules folllow kar kay kaam karna chaahti hai to usay kaam karnay ki azaadi honi chaye :rose

Aanchal
4th November 2007, 21:53
Assalamalikum
main is debate ki last post kay sath debate ka End kar doun gee or is kay bad baki sab loog postings kar saktay hain ...:D:

apani last post main apni team ki taraf say khawateen kay job karnay kay haq main hi baat karoun gee :) jo kuch ham nay kaha hai us ka khulsa bhi peesh karna chhian gay :salam:

hamra point job hai na kay zabradasti wali job ya aisi wesi job ya sari zindagi hi job karti rehye .......aisi job jis say woh ghar or mushra donoo ko theek reakh sakye ....job different taraha ki hoti hain ..koi fix nahi hoti kay ham yeh kahian kay bas yeh na karain yeh karni hi nahi chaian ..
ham kehtay hain kay jab koi khatoon ghar ki zimmdari bakhoobi nibha rahi hai or woh koi aisi job bhi karna chahati hai jis say us kay ghar ki zimmdareoun pay koi faraq nahi paray ga to usay job na karnay deena zaiditi hai ....jesa kay team B ki taraf say jawab aya hai kay aurat ka asal maqaam ghar hai ...beshak hai or aurat ghar key leye hi bahir jati hai ..or aurat har cheez ka khayal reakh kay jaye jo islam nay bataya hai to pher job na karnay ki kia tuk banti hai ?
aurat kay leye teaching or medical ki fields buhat eham tareen shobay hian ..aaj kal hazaroun aurtian mar rahi hain un kay han lady doctors na honay ki waja say un kay Mard kisi Male doctor say elaj nahi karwatay un ka .....agar female doctors banian gee to female ko asani hoo gee ......ham city life ki baat to asani say kar laytay hian kay kisi female ko male say elaj karwanay main koi masla nahi hota ....lekan gaoun main ja kay deekhiaye ...or city main bhi aap ja kay deekhian kitni zarorat hai in shoboo main ladies ki .....bemariyan kai taraha ki hoti hain aksar female male doc ko apna masla nahi bata sakti ....samajhdaar loog yakenan is malsaye ko samajh saktay hian ....... is job main bhi aurat parday main reh kar kaam kar sakti hai ...
teaching ka shoba kitna buland maqaam reakhta hai ...teaching kay zarye woh lakhoun bachoun ki tarbeyat kar sakti hai ....kai shobay hain jahan ladies ki buhat zarorat hai ,,,,
ab majoobori ki job ko sab maan chukye hain to ham yeh kehtay hain kay pehlay hi say apnay aap ko is qabil kio na banaya jaye kay us majboori ki nobat hi na aye ?.....or bad main buhat maslaye hotay hain ....aik to pehlay aap kay personal maslaye pher job dhoundnay kay maslaye ,bahir ki dunia ka kuch pata nahi hota .....aisi aurtian ghalat logoo main bhi phans sakti hain ...balkay majboori main to har taraha ki jobs accept kar laian gee ....is say behtar nahi kay pehlay hi say izzat wala kaam kia jaye takay yeh nobat hi na anay di jaye ?

ham nay yeh to nahi kaha kay aurat bahir ja kay ghar ko bhool jaye ? ghar us ki zimmdari hai ..bachay , husband sab ka us nay khayal reakhna hai ...woh saray kaam kar kay pher apni pasand ka koi kaam karna chahati hai to usay na karnay deena zaiditi hai ....kuch examples bhi di hain is ki aik aurat teaching karti the subaha subaha uth kay namaz parh kay ghar ka sara kaam kar kay bachoun ko school choor kay jati the pher apni teaching ki job pay or wapsi say un say pehlay a kay khana waghera bana kay sab set kar daiti the bachoun ko pata hi nahi chalta tha kay un ki maa kahi bahir gai bhi the .....us nay apnay ghar waloun ko kabhi bahir ka khana nahi kheelaya ..:)

team B nay apna saara focus babies or husband pay reakha :)...ab har aurat to shadi shuda ya maa nahi hoti na .:D..or old ladies kay baray main bhi unhoo nay kuch nahi kaha (un say sawaal poucha gia lekan jawaab nahi aya ).....ham yeh kehtay hain in kay paas to zaida time hota hai job karnay key leye apnay aap ko masroof reakhian aisay kamoun main jahan un ki salaheetian samnay aian ....shadi say pehlay larkiyan job kar kay fees kay pesay khud day sakti hain buhat say mamloun main waldeen pay bhooujh nahi banti ..apna bhooujh khud utha sakti hain ...or old ladies kay leye bhi job achi hai khali deewaoun say to achi hai aisi jaga jahan zindagi ka imkaan to nazar aye ..


aap ki achi tareebyat hoo gee to aap kay ghar main bahu beeti kabhi koi ghalat qadam nahi uthye gee .:thmbup:.aap ko bharoosa reakhna chaye .....tarbeyat achi na hovi to job na kar kay bhi kai kai ghalat kaam kar jatay hian loog :)..isi leye to main nay kaha tha bad acha badnaam bora :D:...
humye Mustaqbil beshak Allha pay chorna chaye or present main rehna chaye ..lekan Allha nay banday ko akal bhi di hai na kay present ko kesay sanwarye .?....ladies beshak aisi jobs main na parian jin say apnay aap ko azzeyat day rahi houn ghar kay leye time na nikal pa rahi houn ...aisi jobs lakhoun hain jahan woh sab kuch araam say handle kar sakti hain ...
job koi cake ka tukra nahi jab zarorat hoo utha kay moun main daal lia or asani say us ka maza chakh saktay hian ..jin ko muhtaaji hoti hai un say pouchye unhay dunia main isnaan kam or daranday zaida nazar atay hian ......! .is leye jab Allha nay kuch karnay ki Salaheetiyan di hain to zaror agian barhian ..aik aurta ki misal main day chuki houn kay us kay husband kay marnay kay bad sab nay ankhian pheer li or woh zakaat pay a gai ab ...aisi aurtoun kay leye to job ka souchna bhi mushkil hoo jata hai ...

jahan islam ka hawala dia gia hai to is say yeh baat sabit nahi hoti kay jo aurat job karti hai woo kisi ghalat kaam kay iraday say nikal rahi hai ...agar har jaga mard hi mard houn gay to aurtoun kay leye zaida maslail peda hoo jaian gay ....subaha uth kay doodh walye ki shakal deekhoo , kuch khareednay jaoo vohan bhi mard , bachoun kay school jaoo vohan bhi mard, shopping kay leye jaoo voahn bhi mard har jaga mard mard mard .....to is say aurtoun ko koi masla nahi hoo ga jo job say logoo nay maslaye bana leeye?yaha jo boorai pheelye gee us ka koi ziker nahi karta ..sari borai sirf khawateen ki job main hai ? aap loog apnay ird gird is baat ka mushaida zaror kejeye ga :thmbup: main nay aisi bhi larkiyan deekhi hian job kar kay bhi apnay aap ko mushray ki galat cheezoun say bacha kay reakhti hian ....or aisi bhi jo job na kar kay bhi kai ghalat kamoun main mulawis hain......is leye sara ilzaam job ko deena ghalat hai ...:rose

jo aurtian job nahi kartin lekan sara din parties, fashion or aik dosray ki gheebat or tv dramaoun main guzar daiti hain us say bachoun ki tarbeyat main koi faraq nahi parta ? usay koi nahi note karta ? agar koi lady ghar ki sari zimmdariyan sanbhlnay kay sath agar kuch waqat job ko day day to itnay maslaye kharay kar deye jatay hian ....

aik samajhar aurat apni zimmdariyan bakhoobi samajhti hai islam kay Rules bhi follow karti hai :rose

main apni baat zabardasti to kisi say nahi manwana chahti lekan yeh zaror kahoun gee aap loog is pay souchye ga zaror :thmbup:

Aanchal
4th November 2007, 21:56
ab is thread ko Awaam kay leye khoola ja raha hai :D: or yeh Awaam judges bhi hain ....
aap loog bhi apnay comments or apnay points likh saktay hian .....

sirf aik cheez ka khayal reakhye ga jo rules donoo teams kay they aap logoo kay leye bhi vohi hian kay koi larai jhugra nahi karna :lpop: or na hi zateyaat pay baat kani hai :na:

to shuru hoo jaoo sab :khi:

GumShuda
5th November 2007, 07:30
AsalamOalaykum !

Ap sab logoon ne MashAllah Bohat Achi behas ki, yahan yeh kahna kah Team A ya Team B jeeti hai kuch munasib nahi lagta. Lekin dono'n ki taraf se key elements per hi stress diya gaya. Es se jo mujhe laga wo yeh kah...

Aurat jo Pakistan mein Rahti hai oska job karna aur aurat jo Pakistan se bahir kisi aur mulak mein rahti haii oska job karna kaafi mukhtlif hay.

Pakistan mein 70% loog dehaatoon mein rahtay hain wahan Aurtain bhi kaam karti lekin wahan har banda ek dosray ki help karta hai kia Shehroon mein aisa hota hai? mein ne nahi daikha, Hamsayoon tak ka nai pata hota kaun hain. Es tarah Shehar mein jitna fashion kar kay aurtain kaam pe jati hain villages mein phatay puranay kaproon mein jati hain ban sanwar kay nahi :D.

Agar job kay baghair guzar nahi tu Shehar ( Pakistan mein) Mein job karna bura nahi, besides Teacher aur Doctor kay, agar ap Girls school/college mein koi bhi Teaching kar sakti hai aur agar majboori nai bhi os ka faida yeh hota hai kah agar wo married hain tu bachay bhi school se wapis aa jatay hain os waqat tak aur hubby agar job ya business karta hai tu wo tu shaam ko hi aye ga. Aur Agar aurat doctor hai tu phir os ko Fe-sabelAllah apni practice jari rakhni chahye chahay hospital ho ya clinic.

Agar larki pakistan se bahir rahti hai tu wahan ka mahool mukhtilif honay ki waja se wo islam kay dairay mein rah kar job kar sakti hay agar oskay parents ya hubby ijazat dain aur wo samjhay kay wo ghareelo zindagi ko bi sambhaal sakti hai.

Pus agar Aurat yeh samjhay kay os ki job se oski ghareelo zindagi ya azdwaji zindagi mutasir hoti hay tu foran job choorh daini chahye.

Islam mein aurat ko barabari di gai hai. Lekin aurat ghar se jitna bahir rahti shaitaan kay lye utna asaan hota hai osko behkana. :)

Barhaal ap donoon teams ne bohat achi daleelei'n dien.

Thanks to all members jinhoon ne hisa lia aur apnay ideas sabkay saath share kye. Yahan JazbatiyaaT se kaam lainay Ki Bajaye Thanday Dil se Sochna Chahye aur Mera Khayal hay jis kaam se insaan ko tasali ho wo kam kar laina chahye. :)

JazakAllah.
Take care
Allah hafiz.

zapk
5th November 2007, 14:27
Assalam-o-alaikum
Anchal ji ne mujhay is debate per comment karnay ki da'awar di so mein hazir hoon.Debate bohat tafseeli hai aur sachi baat hai ke mein sari posts parh bhi nahin saki,so mein donon teams kay dalail per koi behas nahin kar sakon gi albata apna point of view zaroor share karon gi.
Yeh bara hi aham masla hai ke aurat ko mulazimat karni chahiay ya nahin?
Mein is mein samajhti hoon ke us per koi zor zabardasti nahin hona chahiay,agar woh job karna chahay to bhi uska haq hai aur agar na karna chahay to bhi darust,kiyunke talash-e-muash uski zimadaari nahin hai.
Ab is muamilay mein ham asari taqazon ko bhi nazar andaaz nahin kar saktay.khusoosan mahngai ne aurat ko majboor kar diya hai ke woh muashi zarooriaat ko pora karnay ke liay mard ka saath de.Aaj ke dour mein bunyadi zarooriaat bhi quat-e-khareed se bahir hoti ja rahi hain.
Taham usay apni basic zimadaari yeh ghar se bhi ghafil nahin hona chahiay.dono suraton mein (zarooratan ya shouq ki khatir) usay job karnay se pahlay yeh zaroor daikhna chahiay ke kiya woh ghar ke muamilaat sahih tor sambhaal sakay gi?Agar jawab haan mein ho to job mein koi rukawat nahin hona chahiay.
Ghar ki zimadaari bhi bohat aham hai shaid talash-e-muash se bhi ziada.Aik nasl ka mustaqbil banana hota hai.Nepolian ne yunhi nahin kaha tha "Give me a good mother and I will give you a good nation".

aabi2cool
5th November 2007, 15:02
Aslam o alykum :rose

bohat acha mozu tha aur uss se be acha mubahisa raha main nay kafi had tak dono teamon ki guftgu ko parha aur main jis nateejay par pohncha wo ye hi k aik tarah se to is dabate ka faisla pehlay hi hogaya tha kionk membraan ki aksraiyat jin main khud team A k log shamil thy wo is haq main thy k urtoon ko kisi majboori hi k baes job karna chaiye warna naheen laikin jab mubahisay main se majboori ka lafaz nikal diya gaya to phir team A ki postion thori kamzoor hogai is lehaz se teamA ko main dad dena chahaon ga k unhoon ny mushkil mozu ko nibhanay ki khoob koshish ki. is liye very good team A.
laikin jahan tak baat dalail ki hy to team B nay nihayat khush asloobi se is mubahisay main team A k tamam dalail ka na serf toor kiya balk khuch aysay sawalaat bhi qaim kiye k jin k jawaabat shayed team A k pass na hon. is liye team B meri nazar main is mubahisay ki fateh qarar pati hy to well done team b. laikin aap sab log jantay hain k hamara masad yhaan haar ya jeet naheen balk kisi bhi mozu ko laykar mubahisa ki shakl main ilam philna hy aur ye tab hi mumkin hy jab dono teameen bahrpoor shirkat se apna apna kaam kareen..
team B ki kamyabi ki aik bari waja GUL je bhi hain k jinhoon nay kamal khobsurti se inpage ka istimaal kiya aur mukhalif team k dalil ka khoob tour liya . aur in page par mehnat ki waja se bhi un ko advantage hua kion k ye naturle se baat hy k jab koi tehreer roman ki bajay inpage par likhi jay gi to log ziyada parheen gay aur zaiyada qail hongay ..
baqi kamayab silsala munaqad karnay par sabs e pehlay sis ANCHAL aur phir dono teams mubarak bad ki mustahiq hain...:rose

Shaim
5th November 2007, 18:57
Well.......Debate buhat acchi rahi
mere kuch probs k baais main us tarah participate nahi kr pae jese k chahti thi pr i wud like to say SPECIAL THX 2 Gul n Hamzad jinho ny is debate ko aagy berhaya :)

Aanchal,Jiya,shakhe tamanna ny bhi buhat acchy point dye hain :cool: in order to defend the topic :)

pr me ziada enjoy nahi kr saki kuch probs k baais :sad1:
warna debate buhat superb thi :wk

CONGRATZ 2 ALL .......:phool: ye debate begher kisy BEHES k apny ikhti'taam ko pohanchi yahi sab se acchi baat hai :yahoo:

Shaim
5th November 2007, 19:00
Special Thx Goes To Gul n Aanchal 2 Keep This Debate Active
:salam: :salam: :salam: :salam: :salam:
wid lots of Flowers!
:rose :rose :rose :rose :rose :rose :rose :rose :rose :rose :rose :rose :rose :rose :rose :rose :rose :rose

Shaim
5th November 2007, 19:21
Aslam o alykum :rose


bohat acha mozu tha aur uss se be acha mubahisa raha main nay kafi had tak dono teamon ki guftgu ko parha aur main jis nateejay par pohncha wo ye hi k aik tarah se to is dabate ka faisla pehlay hi hogaya tha kionk membraan ki aksraiyat jin main khud team A k log shamil thy wo is haq main thy k urtoon ko kisi majboori hi k baes job karna chaiye warna naheen laikin jab mubahisay main se majboori ka lafaz nikal diya gaya to phir team A ki postion thori kamzoor hogai is lehaz se teamA ko main dad dena chahaon ga k unhoon ny mushkil mozu ko nibhanay ki khoob koshish ki. is liye very good team A.
laikin jahan tak baat dalail ki hy to team B nay nihayat khush asloobi se is mubahisay main team A k tamam dalail ka na serf toor kiya balk khuch aysay sawalaat bhi qaim kiye k jin k jawaabat shayed team A k pass na hon. is liye team B meri nazar main is mubahisay ki fateh qarar pati hy to well done team b. laikin aap sab log jantay hain k hamara masad yhaan haar ya jeet naheen balk kisi bhi mozu ko laykar mubahisa ki shakl main ilam philna hy aur ye tab hi mumkin hy jab dono teameen bahrpoor shirkat se apna apna kaam kareen..
team B ki kamyabi ki aik bari waja GUL je bhi hain k jinhoon nay kamal khobsurti se inpage ka istimaal kiya aur mukhalif team k dalil ka khoob tour liya . aur in page par mehnat ki waja se bhi un ko advantage hua kion k ye naturle se baat hy k jab koi tehreer roman ki bajay inpage par likhi jay gi to log ziyada parheen gay aur zaiyada qail hongay ..

baqi kamayab silsala munaqad karnay par sabs e pehlay sis ANCHAL aur phir dono teams mubarak bad ki mustahiq hain...:rose


Walikum Assalam

:salam: :salam: :salam:

tauruskhan
6th November 2007, 22:57
yeh topic kabi marey ga bi, last 4 years sey dehk raha hoon , nazria zaroorat ki tarah bar bar zinda ho jata hay aik new thread ki shakal main

Z.
7th November 2007, 09:25
Asalam Alaikum all,

Ye topic shuru sey to mey ney aap logoN key sath sath follow kiya tha magar phir kuch masrufiat ki baiss nahi follow ker saki, abhi end posts ko aik over view diya hai to as AWAM :D mey apni reply key sath hazir huN.

Dono teams apni apni jaga bilkul theek heiN, aur apni apni jaga in dono key hi points strong rahey heiN :rose

Aap dono ko mubarakaN ... iss debate ko time deyney key liye :thmbup:


JahaN tak mey ney mehsoos kiya hai wo ye hai key lafz "job" sey log hamesha yahi ma'ini akhz kertey heiN paisa kamana aur ye bohot hi ghalt tasawar hai.

Aik larki key liye awaleen tarjeeh uss ka ghar ...iss mey koi shak na hi hai aur aeysa hi hona chahiyé magar jiss tarhaN aik ghar dono fareeq sey chalta hai (mard aur aurat) sey issi tarhaN aik muashra bhi dono hi fareeq sey chalta hai. Iss liye Aik larki jitna apney ghar ka khayal rakhti hai ussi tarhaN uss ko society mey bhi aik acha role play kerna chahiyé.

Shaheen
7th November 2007, 09:43
walaikum u salam
very nice topic ... i wish ma b kuch keh pata :) i dono i can participate or not .... but if i m allowed to say few words so plz let me know :) thanks
carry on

GumShuda
7th November 2007, 15:52
walaikum u salam
very nice topic ... i wish ma b kuch keh pata :) i dono i can participate or not .... but if i m allowed to say few words so plz let me know :) thanks
carry on
Bhai, i think es topic pe Teams apni behas katam kar chukay hain.agar apko kuch kahna hai tu share kar saktay hain apnay ideas ab coz yeh ab awaam kay lye open hai :D

Aanchal
7th November 2007, 16:03
yeh topic kabi marey ga bi, last 4 years sey dehk raha hoon , nazria zaroorat ki tarah bar bar zinda ho jata hay aik new thread ki shakal main

to aap batye kia topic hona chaye tha ?

Aanchal
7th November 2007, 16:04
walaikum u salam
very nice topic ... i wish ma b kuch keh pata :) i dono i can participate or not .... but if i m allowed to say few words so plz let me know :) thanks
carry on

ji aap apnay comments day saktay hian ...competition khutem howa hai lekan thread continue hai :thmbup:

tauruskhan
9th November 2007, 04:04
to aap batye kia topic hona chaye tha ?
pci device key configuration space register and BARs ko kernel mode sey user mode main kis tarah laya jaeey? and jo tareeka batya jaey kia wo security standards per pora utarta hay . kia kia security risc ho saktay hay and kon kon sey mal functions be creat ho saktay haan?

so start debate on this topic although this is also very old topic but atleast is topic sey new hay

tauruskhan
9th November 2007, 04:07
to aap batye kia topic hona chaye tha ?

chaleen aik aur asan sa topic bata deta hoon

software defined radio (SDR) ko kon kon sey security problems ho saktay haan
and un ko kis tarah remove kia ja sakta hay
and is main security implement kernay sey hmm ko kia advantage hasil hoon gay

so start bachooo

Aanchal
9th November 2007, 08:39
chaleen aik aur asan sa topic bata deta hoon

software defined radio (SDR) ko kon kon sey security problems ho saktay haan
and un ko kis tarah remove kia ja sakta hay
and is main security implement kernay sey hmm ko kia advantage hasil hoon gay

so start bachooo

to start karian aap or deekhian kitnay loog aap kay sath in topics main participate kartay hian :bb:
Gupshup main laga daian thread kay aap in topics pay debate start karna chahtay hian or teams banaye pher deekhye ..
best of luck :lpop:

tauruskhan
11th November 2007, 14:19
to start karian aap or deekhian kitnay loog aap kay sath in topics main participate kartay hian :bb:
Gupshup main laga daian thread kay aap in topics pay debate start karna chahtay hian or teams banaye pher deekhye ..
best of luck :lpop:

app ney topic pocha tha , main ney bata dia

ab kia karoon , i want to see debates on serious knowledgable topics
but you people only can talk on

"khawateen ko nokari kerni chayeh"
"mangni key bad baaten kerni chayein"

yaar banda site per ayeh to kuch sekay to sahi
woi sarey gitay pitay topics again and again

i know knowledge and science is boring for you people
you people remain happy with such topics

Aanchal
11th November 2007, 20:49
app ney topic pocha tha , main ney bata dia

ab kia karoon , i want to see debates on serious knowledgable topics
but you people only can talk on

"khawateen ko nokari kerni chayeh"
"mangni key bad baaten kerni chayein"

yaar banda site per ayeh to kuch sekay to sahi
woi sarey gitay pitay topics again and again

i know knowledge and science is boring for you people
you people remain happy with such topics

humye jis ki knowledge hai ham usi pay baat karain gay na :lpop: science kay topic pay bhi reakhian gay ..:lpop:

agar aap samjhtay hain kay kuch different hona chaye to aap shuru kio nahi kartay ?:lpop: aap start laian jisay interest hoo ga un main woh a jaian gay ..

Gul
12th November 2007, 04:43
wesay aanchal je yeh debate @ topic ka kia faisala howa ...AWAAM kia yehan b beychaari hai :) >>>

baqarkashmiri
12th November 2007, 05:58
I think nahin karni chahye
bcoz us ko aik generation banani hoti ha
aur meray khyal se us ki job wohi ha q ka
agar woh apny bachon aur ghar par tawajh da
tu yahi dunya jannat ban janti ha
q k maan banay k sath he us par bohat zimadariyan aid ho jati hen
agar job karnay ki bat ha tu teaching best.
likan nahin kary tu zindagi achi guzar sakti ha

Aanchal
12th November 2007, 08:02
wesay aanchal je yeh debate @ topic ka kia faisala howa ...AWAAM kia yehan b beychaari hai :) >>>

Awaam ka fasila aap kay samnay hai :) awaam kabhi beechari nahi hoti :wk
kisi pay koi pabandi nahi lagai gai hai :D: sab key leye yeh open hai jo bhi judge banna chaye apnay comments day sakta hai ...or jo is thread ko continue reakhna chaye to bhi reakh sakta hai ....