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aabi2cool
27th May 2006, 17:50
:rose

Muhammad Khalil
28th May 2006, 07:50
hahahah aabid yaar tum raja sahib kee baat ker rahy hu.....:)
Yaar waisy aik baat hay...ager banda es umer main Banda...Koi enjoy ker liy shadi kerna chahta hu to pher....Just for enjoy..na k koi islamic soch zehan main hu??

aabi2cool
28th May 2006, 12:39
hahahah aabid yaar tum raja sahib kee baat ker rahy hu.....:)
Yaar waisy aik baat hay...ager banda es umer main Banda...Koi enjoy ker liy shadi kerna chahta hu to pher....Just for enjoy..na k koi islamic soch zehan main hu??
Aap pehly mujh ko ye bataiye k just injoy karna kia mutliqan bura amal hy?:wk

Shaim
29th May 2006, 17:16
Walikum Assalam!

Khud ko kuch lamhaat k liye lerki consider kariin or phir sochain k apkey husband ager apkey bawajood doosri shadi ker lain……apko aisa feel ho ga jese sab kuch toot gaya…..ik girl apne Parents/ghar jahan wo 22/24 saal guzaar ker aati hai wo sab sirf ik family k liye or more specifically ik insaan k liye sab kuch choor ker aati hai.

Girl ki feelings buhaaat ziada naazuk hoti hain………boys se kahiin ziada naazuk feelings…….jinhe koi bhi samajh nahi paati…..ik sincere or true girl ki feelings buhaaat hassas hoti hain…..to DOOSRI SHAADI uskey liye koi kamm sitaam nahi hoota…….wo sochti hai shaid mere ander koi kami thi……..main sab kuch choor ker ai…….itni true rahi phir bhi main na-kaafi q ho gai?
Or girl ki yahi feelings ka ehsaas aas paroos k logon ko hota hai to wo DOOSRI SHAADI ko ghalt consider kerte hain.

ISLAM ne ijazat di per maslihat k tehet……..kitne log dosri shadi kise girl k halaat dekh ker kerte hain?
Ik bewa aurat ho 2/3 bachon k sath to mard us se dosri shadi nahi karey ga usko 18/22 yrs ki girl hi q chahiye hooti hai shadi k liye?
ik or bat jo mujhe aksar confuse kerti hai……ager doosri shadi hi kerni hai to ap kisey prostitute se kariin take yap usko ik izzat dar zindagi de sakiin…….per prostitutes se shaadi koi nahi kerta……ager koi kerna chahe to main kehti hoon k doosri nahi teesri or choothi shaadi bhi kariin…….takey kuch girls ko izzat daar muqam dilwa sakiin aap…..

jab girl honest ho her tarah se apne husband n unki family ka khiyaal rakhe or phir bhi ik mard satisfied na hoo to girl toot jaati hai….

NICE DISCUSSION:thmbup: :thmbup:
KEEP SHARING & CARRY ON:salam:

WASALAM!

zeeshan
29th May 2006, 17:30
hmmm ap ne ek acha sawal kiya ha:) hamre haaa kuch rasm-o-rawaj ese ha jo purane zamane se chle arehe ha or un ko es nazriye se dekha nehi jata kie Islam kiya kehta ha..bas agr hamre baro ne keh diya kie yeh galt ha tu galt ha es bat per log amal kerte ha...
hamre mashre mein ek biwi kie hote howe dosre shadi amoman tab kie jate ha jab bache kie khawish ho or ziada ter yehi smja jata ha kie es mein sra sar aurat kie ghalti ha or us ko khud hi pehle ham zor dete ha kie dosre shadi ker lo or yehi shadi jab koi dosra kerta ha tu wohi log buriya khul kie kerte ha...
mere zehan mein jo ek bat aae ha woh bhi shair ker do ham mein se baz log kehte ha kie Islam ne 4 shadi kie ejazt dee ha or ham char ker sakte ha chlo char na kare tu doo kare tu mere bahi hame Islam kie yeh bat tu nazer aa gaie kie 4 shadi kie ejazat ha baqi ka Islam kon samje ga... kiya baqi ka Islam kisi or kie liye ha ?? ya kiya Islam srif apne pasnd ka ha? jo dil ko ache lage woh Islam ha baqi ko choro ????


yehi kaho ga kie hamre ankho mein patii bnde howe ha or ham kuch nehi dekh sakte :)

zeeshan
29th May 2006, 17:37
Walikum Assalam!

Khud ko kuch lamhaat k liye lerki consider kariin or phir sochain k apkey husband ager apkey bawajood doosri shadi ker lain……apko aisa feel ho ga jese sab kuch toot gaya…..ik girl apne Parents/ghar jahan wo 22/24 saal guzaar ker aati hai wo sab sirf ik family k liye or more specifically ik insaan k liye sab kuch choor ker aati hai.

Girl ki feelings buhaaat ziada naazuk hoti hain………boys se kahiin ziada naazuk feelings…….jinhe koi bhi samajh nahi paati…..ik sincere or true girl ki feelings buhaaat hassas hoti hain…..to DOOSRI SHAADI uskey liye koi kamm sitaam nahi hoota…….wo sochti hai shaid mere ander koi kami thi……..main sab kuch choor ker ai…….itni true rahi phir bhi main na-kaafi q ho gai?
Or girl ki yahi feelings ka ehsaas aas paroos k logon ko hota hai to wo DOOSRI SHAADI ko ghalt consider kerte hain.

ISLAM ne ijazat di per maslihat k tehet……..kitne log dosri shadi kise girl k halaat dekh ker kerte hain?
Ik bewa aurat ho 2/3 bachon k sath to mard us se dosri shadi nahi karey ga usko 18/22 yrs ki girl hi q chahiye hooti hai shadi k liye?
ik or bat jo mujhe aksar confuse kerti hai……ager doosri shadi hi kerni hai to ap kisey prostitute se kariin take yap usko ik izzat dar zindagi de sakiin…….per prostitutes se shaadi koi nahi kerta……ager koi kerna chahe to main kehti hoon k doosri nahi teesri or choothi shaadi bhi kariin…….takey kuch girls ko izzat daar muqam dilwa sakiin aap…..

jab girl honest ho her tarah se apne husband n unki family ka khiyaal rakhe or phir bhi ik mard satisfied na hoo to girl toot jaati hai….

NICE DISCUSSION:thmbup: :thmbup:
KEEP SHARING & CARRY ON:salam:

WASALAM!

ap ne sehe kaha kie dosre shadi kerne se ek aurat kie liye sab kuch khtam ho jata ha.... lekan dosre bat per bhi zara gor kiejeye kiya dosre shadi kerane mein ek aurat ka hi hath nehi hota ??? chahe woh koi bhi wajh ho..hamre apne hi hame force kerte ha kie dosre shadi kero us mein apne hi bhn or maa hote ha ?? kiya us waqt un ko yeh khial nehi ata kie yeh bhi ek aurat ha.... fir woh esa kue kerte ha ???
kue pehle force kerte ha dosre shadi ka fir bad mein use bura smja jata ha kue ?

Shaim
29th May 2006, 19:51
ap ne sehe kaha kie dosre shadi kerne se ek aurat kie liye sab kuch khtam ho jata ha.... lekan dosre bat per bhi zara gor kiejeye kiya dosre shadi kerane mein ek aurat ka hi hath nehi hota ??? chahe woh koi bhi wajh ho..hamre apne hi hame force kerte ha kie dosre shadi kero us mein apne hi bhn or maa hote ha ?? kiya us waqt un ko yeh khial nehi ata kie yeh bhi ek aurat ha.... fir woh esa kue kerte ha ???
kue pehle force kerte ha dosre shadi ka fir bad mein use bura smja jata ha kue ?

ik lerki jo shadi ho ker jaati hai ager wo ye sooche k wo bus ik hi person k liye ja rahi hai to ye ghalt soch hai......beshak specifically wo ik person k liye hi jaati hai per husband ki family bhi uskey liye imp honi chahiye jab wo husband ki family ko apni family samjhey gi un se accha bartao karey gi to koi SAAS ya NAAND ya JITHAANI ya DEWRAANI ya koi or kabhi uskey husband ko force nahi karein gi......

per chahey kuch bhi ho kabhi apne bete ya bhai ko dosri shadi k liye force nahi kerna chahiye per ager MOM ya BEHEN force karin bhi to boy ko aqal se kam lena chahiye.......

jo BAHO thiik se rehti hai susraal main wahan koi prob nahi hoota
per ik lerki sicere bhi ho.....phir bhi lerka khud apni marzi se doosri shadi ker ley to ye buhaat teasing hai

zeeshan
30th May 2006, 17:40
ik lerki jo shadi ho ker jaati hai ager wo ye sooche k wo bus ik hi person k liye ja rahi hai to ye ghalt soch hai......beshak specifically wo ik person k liye hi jaati hai per husband ki family bhi uskey liye imp honi chahiye jab wo husband ki family ko apni family samjhey gi un se accha bartao karey gi to koi SAAS ya NAAND ya JITHAANI ya DEWRAANI ya koi or kabhi uskey husband ko force nahi karein gi......

per chahey kuch bhi ho kabhi apne bete ya bhai ko dosri shadi k liye force nahi kerna chahiye per ager MOM ya BEHEN force karin bhi to boy ko aqal se kam lena chahiye.......

jo BAHO thiik se rehti hai susraal main wahan koi prob nahi hoota
per ik lerki sicere bhi ho.....phir bhi lerka khud apni marzi se doosri shadi ker ley to ye buhaat teasing hai

aap kie bat blkl theek ha.. lekan agr esa ho tu fir hamre mashre mein yeh jhgre hi khtam ho jaie...agr ek larkie shadi kie bad apne susral mein sehe rehte ha tu use kisi or trh se tang kiya jata ha.. jese kie jahiz kue kam laie es kie elwa bhi bht sare bate hote ha...
asl swal tu yehi ha na kie mard ek aurt kie hote howe bhi dosre shadi kue kerta ha ?? agr pehle biwi kie hote howe bhi shadi kere tu yeh galt ha..lekan jesa kie ap ne kaha kie agr koi bewa se kare tu yeh ache bat ha us bat ko hamre mashre mein bht bura samja jata ha...mein tu yehi kaho ga kie mard kie dosre shadi mein ek aurat ka bhi hath hota ha..lekan jo log yeh keh ker dosre shadi kerte ha kie Islam ne ejazt de ha tu un per sewaie afsos kie or kuch nehi kaha ja sakta..

Mr. Sialkoty
1st June 2006, 06:45
Very nice topic aabi :thmbup:

Hum loogon mein kuch kabahatein yeh hein ke hum loogon islaam se ziada moaashra discuss kerte hein. Halan'ke aisa nahi hona chahiye. Nikkah aik mohar he, jo ke aap ke liye pehlay se aik haraam cheez ko aap per halaal karaar de deti he. Aap ke haan aik 60 saala bazurg ne aik 40 saala bewa se shadi ki to meri nazar mein us ne bohat acha kia. Yeh aik tarah ki mutual benificial deal he, yani doono ka faida he. awal yeh ke doono aik doosray ka burhapay mein sahara bun gaye aur doosra bewa aurat ko aik sahara mil gaya aur us shaks ki jaidaad mein hisay daar bun gai aur usay kisi had tak financial security mil gai.

Jesa ke Khalil ne nukta uthaya ke ager koi bunda enjoy ke liye shadi kerna chahta he to...mujay khalil ki is na-pukhta baat per hasi aati he. Mein us se yeh poochna chahta hoon ke kia islam ne enjoy kerne pe mana fermaya he. Kuch hadood-o-kayood ka khyaal rakha jaye to insaan enjoy karay jo bhi karay kisi ko kia. Think rashionally, aaj kul kitnay loog shadi farz samaj ke kerte hein aur kitnay loog enjoyment ke liye kerte hein...yani kitnay loogon ke zehan mein yeh hota he ke wo shadi ke baad enjoy karein ge...i think 99 percent. is mein ghalat baat bhi kuch nahi, yeh islaami fareeza aur insaani haq he.

Ager aik shaks apni do bewiyoon se insaaf ker sakta he...insaaf waisa jese islaam ne bataya he to mera nahi khyaal ke doosri shadi kerne mein koi harg he

Mr. Sialkoty
1st June 2006, 06:57
ik or bat jo mujhe aksar confuse kerti hai……ager doosri shadi hi kerni hai to ap kisey prostitute se kariin take yap usko ik izzat dar zindagi de sakiin…….per prostitutes se shaadi koi nahi kerta……ager koi kerna chahe to main kehti hoon k doosri nahi teesri or choothi shaadi bhi kariin…….takey kuch girls ko izzat daar muqam dilwa sakiin aap…..



Aap ne bohat hi zabardast nukta uthaya mein aap ko is baat ka jawaab zaroor dena chahon ga. Aap mujay yeh bataiye ke kuch larkiyaan prostitution mein kyoon aa jati hein. Is ki bazahir do wajoohaat mere zehan mein aati hein...awal paisa...dooim jinsi hawas.

Ub aap yeh kahein gi ke larkiyaan halaat se majboor ho jati hein...un ke paas is ke ilawa koi aur hal nahi rehta to bhi aap ki baat maan lete hein. Majboor larkiyaan prositute banein, kuch kamaya lekin wo phir bhi prostitute rahein. laalach aur hawas ki koi na koi had to honi hi chahiye ke nahi honi chahiye.

Aik baat aap se yeh poochna chahta hoon ke kitni larkiyaan hein jo is dhanday mein mulawis hein aur kitni larkiyaan hein jo is dhanday se bahir nikalna chahti hein...i think un ki taadaas bohat rare ho gi...aur waise bhi jo larkiyaan prositute hoti hein wo apna zameer maar chuki hoti hein...aur zameer aik wahid cheez he jo aik jandar jism ko insaan banata he...

Aik hakeekat yeh bhi he ke is tarah ki lut jis larki ko per jaye wo churanay se nahi choot'ti..aur bhi is ke kai pehlu hein...koon koon sa pehlu dekhna chahein gi.

ASAD
1st June 2006, 07:25
Aap pehly mujh ko ye bataiye k just injoy karna kia mutliqan bura amal hy?:wk


Aabi bhai shaid ap khalil ka matlab nae samjy.. enjoy mean sirf Hawas k liya.. os is kaam main Islami khukam ko dhal bana liya.. Dosre shadi karny sey pehly or dosre shadi karny k baad Islam kia kehta hay os ko to koee dekhta he nae.. yah to phir har kaam islami hukam ke teht hon phir to koee problem nae .. baat hamry Moashry ke ho rahe hay ( aik shohar ke pehly bewe jo k Nihayt sadhi. sharif..or gharyloo orat hy ) os ka shohar os per aik dosre orat passand karta hay jo k os ko dekhny main ache lage os ke seerat kia hay chal chalan.. dos,nt mater.... bas sirf yeh dekha k islam dosre shadi ke ijazt deta hy.. Islam to or b bohat kuch karny or na karny ka khukam deta hy.... or yeh kahan likha hy k ager kise ney 2 yah 4 shadiyan na keen to wo Janat main nae ja saky ga............. haan ager koe ase reason ho jate hay jiss per ap ke pehle wife razamand hay to phir theek hy....

haan ager pehly wife foot ho jaya to phir to main nae samjta ke koee esy bura samjta ho......

Mr. Sialkoty
1st June 2006, 07:35
Aabi bhai shaid ap khalil ka matlab nae samjy.. enjoy mean sirf Hawas k liya.. os is kaam main Islami khukam ko dhal bana liya.. Dosre shadi karny sey pehly or dosre shadi karny k baad Islam kia kehta hay os ko to koee dekhta he nae.. yah to phir har kaam islami hukam ke teht hon phir to koee problem nae .. baat hamry Moashry ke ho rahe hay ( aik shohar ke pehly bewe jo k Nihayt sadhi. sharif..or gharyloo orat hy ) os ka shohar os per aik dosre orat passand karta hay jo k os ko dekhny main ache lage os ke seerat kia hay chal chalan.. dos,nt mater.... bas sirf yeh dekha k islam dosre shadi ke ijazt deta hy.. Islam to or b bohat kuch karny or na karny ka khukam deta hy.... or yeh kahan likha hy k ager kise ney 2 yah 4 shadiyan na keen to wo Janat main nae ja saky ga............. haan ager koe ase reason ho jate hay jiss per ap ke pehle wife razamand hay to phir theek hy....

haan ager pehly wife foot ho jaya to phir to main nae samjta ke koee esy bura samjta ho......


Yeh tum ne khud likha he :khi:

Tumhari saari baatein sahi maan leta hoon...aik baat ka jawaab do, suppose insaan ki hawas puri nahi hoti, aur wo gair aurat ki taraf rujhaan rakhta he. Is surat mein tum kia kaho gi, ke wo kabi shadi na karay. Apne nafs ko control kerna bohat asaan nahi...ager wo koi gunnah kerne ka soochay to kia is se acha yeh na ho ga ke wo doosri shadi ker le aur aik ba-zaabta toor per apni hawas puri kerta rahay.

Meri baat bohat ajeeb si lagi ho gi, lekin bhai gunah kerne se to yeh baher-haal behtar he, aur is per wo ager doono biwiyoon ke saath insaaf ker pata he to wo apni doosri shadi ko justify bhi ker jaye ga.

ASAD
1st June 2006, 07:50
Yeh tum ne khud likha he :khi:

Tumhari saari baatein sahi maan leta hoon...aik baat ka jawaab do, suppose insaan ki hawas puri nahi hoti, aur wo gair aurat ki taraf rujhaan rakhta he. Is surat mein tum kia kaho gi, ke wo kabi shadi na karay. Apne nafs ko control kerna bohat asaan nahi...ager wo koi gunnah kerne ka soochay to kia is se acha yeh na ho ga ke wo doosri shadi ker le aur aik ba-zaabta toor per apni hawas puri kerta rahay.

Meri baat bohat ajeeb si lagi ho gi, lekin bhai gunah kerne se to yeh baher-haal behtar he, aur is per wo ager doono biwiyoon ke saath insaaf ker pata he to wo apni doosri shadi ko justify bhi ker jaye ga.

. baat dosre shadi ke ho rahe hy.or yahe mera point tha. ager koe insaan apne pehle bewe ke hoty howy dosre orat per ase negah dalta hay.. or hawas pore karny k liya shadi ker ley.. is tara wo kitne shadiaan kary ga..?
or is baat ki kia qarunty hy ke dosre shadi karny ke baad wo kisee 3rd orat ko be asy he apne wife banany k liya Nahe sochy ga.. Sorry to say isee baat ko main ney or khalil ney NOTE kia hay..
haan ager ko beshara orat hay... koe yateem larki hay.. to yeh reason kuch munasib hay..

Shaim
1st June 2006, 10:54
Aap ne bohat hi zabardast nukta uthaya mein aap ko is baat ka jawaab zaroor dena chahon ga. Aap mujay yeh bataiye ke kuch larkiyaan prostitution mein kyoon aa jati hein. Is ki bazahir do wajoohaat mere zehan mein aati hein...awal paisa...dooim jinsi hawas.

Ub aap yeh kahein gi ke larkiyaan halaat se majboor ho jati hein...un ke paas is ke ilawa koi aur hal nahi rehta to bhi aap ki baat maan lete hein. Majboor larkiyaan prositute banein, kuch kamaya lekin wo phir bhi prostitute rahein. laalach aur hawas ki koi na koi had to honi hi chahiye ke nahi honi chahiye.

Aik baat aap se yeh poochna chahta hoon ke kitni larkiyaan hein jo is dhanday mein mulawis hein aur kitni larkiyaan hein jo is dhanday se bahir nikalna chahti hein...i think un ki taadaas bohat rare ho gi...aur waise bhi jo larkiyaan prositute hoti hein wo apna zameer maar chuki hoti hein...aur zameer aik wahid cheez he jo aik jandar jism ko insaan banata he...

Aik hakeekat yeh bhi he ke is tarah ki lut jis larki ko per jaye wo churanay se nahi choot'ti..aur bhi is ke kai pehlu hein...koon koon sa pehlu dekhna chahein gi.

Koi lerki bhi khud se is profession main nahii aati…..buhaat kam girlz hon gi jo is profession main khud aati hoon gi…..warna ziada ter girls kiddnap ho jaati hain or phir kuch be-hiss log peesa kamaaney k liye un masoom girls ko is profession se munsaalik ker dete hain…..
Or jab wo chooti c umer main is profession se munsaalik hooti hain jab unhe ye nahi pata hoota k rishte kia hoote hain…..pyaar kia hoota hai……izzat kia hooti hai……zindagi ka maqsad kia hoona chahiye…….n many things like that….
Jab unhe in basic cheezon k baarey main bataya hi nahi jata unhe aisa koi xposure hi nahi milta k unhe insaan ki real life ka pata chale…..jinhe maa/baap ka pyaar…..ghar ki izzat….taleem…awareness kuch milaa hi nahii hoota to wo kese in cheezon ko jaanin????
Kese wo is profession se chuutkaraa hasiil kariin?
Yuun hi time guzarta jaata hai or jab unhe in sab cheezon ka pata chalta hai umer k saath saath to buhaat deer ho chuki hooti hai……koi unhe izzat dene k liye tayyar nahii hoota……or wo khud is profession ki used to ho chuuki hooti hain……

Main kabhi ye nahi kahoon gi k girls majboor hooti hain…….majboori chaahey jesi bhi q na ho……insaan bheek maang le per itna bhiyaanak kaam kabhi naa karey

Maine ooper bataaya naa apko……k time guzarta jaata hai or wo used to hoti jaati hain lack of awareness ki wajaa se…..
Is profession ko wo tab choorain jab unhe ik pure or tawajju dene wala husband miley per koi unse shaadi nahii kerta……n this is the prob……society khud unhe prostitute banaati hai……encouraging males or log khud ik girl ko lerki se prostitute banaate hain

Shaim
1st June 2006, 11:23
aap kie bat blkl theek ha.. lekan agr esa ho tu fir hamre mashre mein yeh jhgre hi khtam ho jaie...agr ek larkie shadi kie bad apne susral mein sehe rehte ha tu use kisi or trh se tang kiya jata ha.. jese kie jahiz kue kam laie es kie elwa bhi bht sare bate hote ha...
asl swal tu yehi ha na kie mard ek aurt kie hote howe bhi dosre shadi kue kerta ha ?? agr pehle biwi kie hote howe bhi shadi kere tu yeh galt ha..lekan jesa kie ap ne kaha kie agr koi bewa se kare tu yeh ache bat ha us bat ko hamre mashre mein bht bura samja jata ha...mein tu yehi kaho ga kie mard kie dosre shadi mein ek aurat ka bhi hath hota ha..lekan jo log yeh keh ker dosre shadi kerte ha kie Islam ne ejazt de ha tu un per sewaie afsos kie or kuch nehi kaha ja sakta..

hamaara muash'ra kab kise acchi cheez ko encourage kerta hai?:)
kerna wahii chahiye jis se ap mut'main hoon per dil ki tasalli se imp ye hai k pehle ye judge kerna chahiye k jis cheez se hamare dil ko tasalli mil rahi hai kia woo cheez ISLAM k point of view se thiik hai.......ager sahee ho to continue kariin otherwise rokk jain or ager sahee ho to MUASH'RE ko concern kerne ki kia zaroorat hai??

ye wo muash'ra hai jo ager shaadi per mehndi na ki jai to BURA MANAATA HAI
ager kise k marne per QUL na kiyye jain jo k ISLAM main koi concept nahi to BURA MANAATA hai......yanii her sahee cheez se rookne wala muashra.......or her tarah se keerey nikaalne wala muashra.....
hum kabhi is muashre ko khush nahii ker sakte.......ye her haal main baatin banata hai so......wahi karin jo ISLAM main hai or jo apka dil karey......do not care of those who r themselve wrong!

n yes......jab ik mard sincere n caring wife ko thukra ker doosri shaadi kerne ka sochta hai to buhat takleef hooti hai
KHUSH RAHIYYE

tauruskhan
1st June 2006, 19:47
:rose
Asalam-0-Alikum
wasey app ki gif file to open naeen hoi
lakin topic ka name dehk ker andaza ho gia hay key us main kia kaha gia ho ga
islam ko kitna latara gia ho ga key dehko islam nay keeon ijzat de hay polygomy ki , keeon mard ik sey zeada shadi ker sakta hay , akir keeon and keeon and so on

tafseel main janey sey pehlay itna arz ker don key

Islam wo wahid mazhab hay jis ney bakayada sirf one shadi ka concept dia hay.

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from Dr Zakir Nayak web site .... irf.net
POLYGAMY

Question:

Why is a man allowed to have more than one wife in Islam? i.e. why is polygamy allowed in Islam?

Answer:

Definition of Polygamy

1. Polygamy means a system of marriage whereby one person has more than one spouse. Polygamy can be of two types. One is polygyny where a man marries more than one woman, and the other is polyandry, where a woman marries more than one man. In Islam, limited polygyny is permitted; whereas polyandry is completely prohibited.

Now coming to the original question, why is a man allowed to have more than one wife?


2. The Qur’an is the only religious scripture in the world that says,"marry only one".


The Qur’an is the only religious book, on the face of this earth, that contains the phrase ‘marry only one’. There is no other religious book that instructs men to have only one wife. In none of the other religious scriptures, whether it be the Vedas, the Ramayan, the Mahabharat, the Geeta, the Talmud or the Bible does one find a restriction on the number of wives. According to these scriptures one can marry as many as one wishes. It was only later, that the Hindu priests and the Christian Church restricted the number of wives to one.

Many Hindu religious personalities, according to their scriptures, had multiple wives. King Dashrat, the father of Rama, had more than one wife. Krishna had several wives.

In earlier times, Christian men were permitted as many wives as they wished, since the Bible puts no restriction on the number of wives. It was only a few centuries ago that the Church restricted the number of wives to one.

Polygyny is permitted in Judaism. According to Talmudic law, Abraham had three wives, and Solomon had hundreds of wives. The practice of polygyny continued till Rabbi Gershom ben Yehudah (95% C.E to 1030 C.E) issued an edict against it. The Jewish Sephardic communities living in Muslim countries continued the practice till as late as 1950, until an Act of the Chief Rabbinate of Israel extended the ban on marrying more than one wife.


3. Hindus are more polygynous than Muslims


The report of the ‘Committee of The Status of Woman in Islam’, published in 1975 mentions on page numbers 66 and 67 that the percentage of polygamous marriages between the years 1951 and 1961 was 5.06% among the Hindus and only 4.31% among the Muslims. According to Indian law only Muslim men are permitted to have more than one wife. It is illegal for any non-Muslim in India to have more than one wife. Despite it being illegal, Hindus have more multiple wives as compared to Muslims. Earlier, there was no restriction even on Hindu men with respect to the number of wives allowed. It was only in 1954, when the Hindu Marriage Act was passed that it became illegal for a Hindu to have more than one wife. At present it is the Indian Law that restricts a Hindu man from having more than one wife and not the Hindu scriptures.

Let us now analyse why Islam allows a man to have more than one wife.


4. Qur’an permits limited polygyny


As I mentioned earlier, Qur’an is the only religious book on the face of the earth that says ‘marry only one’. The context of this phrase is the following verse from Surah Nisa of the Glorious Qur’an:

"Marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one."

[Al-Qur’an 4:3]

Before the Qur’an was revealed, there was no upper limit for polygyny and many men had scores of wives, some even hundreds. Islam put an upper limit of four wives. Islam gives a man permission to marry two, three or four women, only on the condition that he deals justly with them.

In the same chapter i.e. Surah Nisa verse 129 says:

"Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women...."

[Al-Qur’an 4:129]

Therefore polygyny is not a rule but an exception. Many people are under the misconception that it is compulsory for a Muslim man to have more than one wife.

Broadly, Islam has five categories of Do’s and Don’ts:

‘Fard’ i.e. compulsory or obligatory

‘Mustahab’ i.e. recommended or encouraged

‘Mubah’ i.e. permissible or allowed

‘Makruh’ i.e. not recommended or discouraged

‘Haraam’ i.e. prohibited or forbidden

Polygyny falls in the middle category of things that are permissible. It cannot be said that a Muslim who has two, three or four wives is a better Muslim as compared to a Muslim who has only one wife.


5. Average life span of females is more than that of males


By nature males and females are born in approximately the same ratio. A female child has more immunity than a male child. A female child can fight the germs and diseases better than the male child. For this reason, during the pediatric age itself there are more deaths among males as compared to the females.

During wars, there are more men killed as compared to women. More men die due to accidents and diseases than women. The average life span of females is more than that of males, and at any given time one finds more widows in the world than widowers.


6. India has more male population than female due to female foeticide and infanticide


India is one of the few countries, along with the other neighbouring countries, in which the female population is less than the male population. The reason lies in the high rate of female infanticide in India, and the fact that more than one million female foetuses are aborted every year in this country, after they are identified as females. If this evil practice is stopped, then India too will have more females as compared to males.

7. World female population is more than male population


In the USA, women outnumber men by 7.8 million. New York alone has one million more females as compared to the number of males, and of the male population of New York one-third are gays i.e sodomites. The U.S.A as a whole has more than twenty-five million gays. This means that these people do not wish to marry women. Great Britain has four million more females as compared to males. Germany has five million more females as compared to males. Russia has nine million more females than males. God alone knows how many million more females there are in the whole world as compared to males.

8. Restricting each and every man to have only one wife is not practical


Even if every man got married to one woman, there would still be more than thirty million females in U.S.A who would not be able to get husbands (considering that America has twenty five million gays). There would be more than four million females in Great Britain, 5 million females in Germany and nine million females in Russia alone who would not be able to find a husband.

Suppose my sister happens to be one of the unmarried women living in USA, or suppose your sister happens to be one of the unmarried women in USA. The only two options remaining for her are that she either marries a man who already has a wife or becomes public property. There is no other option. All those who are modest will opt for the first.

In Western society, it is common for a man to have mistresses and/or multiple extra-marital affairs, in which case, the woman leads a disgraceful, unprotected life. The same society, however, cannot accept a man having more than one wife, in which women retain their honourable, dignified position in society and lead a protected life.

Thus the only two options before a woman who cannot find a husband is to marry a married man or to become public property. Islam prefers giving women the honourable position by permitting the first option and disallowing the second.

There are several other reasons, why Islam has permitted limited polygyny, but it is mainly to protect the modesty of women.

tauruskhan
1st June 2006, 19:55
app key swoalon ka jowab
1. bagair kisi solid waja key dosri ya teesri shadi kerna bora fail hay
2. aik bewi key marney key bad ager koi dosri shadi kerta hay to yeh us key liya behtar hay
3. dosri shadi kerna her giz islami fail naeen hay . islam main koi shart naeen hay key acha muslam sirf wo ho ga key jo 2 ya 2 sey zeada shadian keray. bora is leya samjha jata hay key yeh indo pak moashrey key liya odd hay
keeon key yaaahan zana kerna behtar samjaha jata hay as compare to shadi
aik mard jo kis ki bewi mar jaey wo ager zana kerta pirey to bora naeen lakin ager dosri shadi ker lay to bora ban jata hay keeon key indian shadi ko bora samjtay haan

tauruskhan
1st June 2006, 19:59
Walikum Assalam!

Khud ko kuch lamhaat k liye lerki consider kariin or phir sochain k apkey husband ager apkey bawajood doosri shadi ker lain……apko aisa feel ho ga jese sab kuch toot gaya…..ik girl apne Parents/ghar jahan wo 22/24 saal guzaar ker aati hai wo sab sirf ik family k liye or more specifically ik insaan k liye sab kuch choor ker aati hai.

walikum as salam
wo shaks muslim naeen ho sakta jo key do shadian keray and un main insaaf na keray.
keeon key dosri shadi ki ijazat hi islam us wakat deta hay ager wo insaaf kernay ka wada kerta hay.
ager wo one sided ho jata hay to zulm kerta hay and zaalim kehlay ga

tauruskhan
1st June 2006, 20:10
. baat dosre shadi ke ho rahe hy.or yahe mera point tha. ager koe insaan apne pehle bewe ke hoty howy dosre orat per ase negah dalta hay.. or hawas pore karny k liya shadi ker ley.. is tara wo kitne shadiaan kary ga..?
or is baat ki kia qarunty hy ke dosre shadi karny ke baad wo kisee 3rd orat ko be asy he apne wife banany k liya Nahe sochy ga.. Sorry to say isee baat ko main ney or khalil ney NOTE kia hay..
haan ager ko beshara orat hay... koe yateem larki hay.. to yeh reason kuch munasib hay..

meray bahi
app ney likha hay key hawas pori kernay key liya dosri and tesri shadi ker lay

mujeh yeh bataeen key hawas pori kernay key liya kia shadi kerni lazmi hay
jeen naeen
jis ko hawas hoti hay wo to bagair shadi key bi hawaas pori ker lay ga just like indians us ko shadi ka jambela palney ki kia zarorat hay

meray bahi kisi per ilzam laganey sey pehlay and guman kernay sey pehlay soch lia kareen
app ney kia us ka dil cheer ker dehka hay key wo sirf hawas pori kernay key liya dosri shadi ker raha hay

Hadees mobarika key motabik
aik dafa gazwa uhad main ik sahabi ik kafir ko katal kernay lagey to jab talwar gardan tak pohanch choki thee , to us ney kalma per lia ,
sahabi ney guman kia key shayed is ney mot key kof sey kalma perha hay and dohka dena chata hay , and isi guaman ki base per us ko mar dala

jab Hazoor PBUH ko is barey main pata laga to us key ney farmaya key kia tum ney us ka dil cheer ker dehha tha key tumain pata tha key us ney jan bachaney key liya kalma perha hay . and Hazoor PBUH kafi arsa tak un sahabi sey naraz rahey

so meray dosto , guaman ki base per kisi ko bora bhala kehana bohat bori adat hay and is main app hi ka nuksan hota hay
to khial raka kareen

tauruskhan
1st June 2006, 20:14
Koi lerki bhi khud se is profession main nahii aati…..

app bohat masoom haain

what do you think about show biz.

show biz bi isi profession per perda dal ker khobsorat banaya gia profession hay .

tauruskhan
1st June 2006, 20:18
Aabi bhai shaid ap khalil ka matlab nae samjy.. enjoy mean sirf Hawas k liya.. os is kaam main Islami khukam ko dhal bana liya

app bi zara sochey key us ney dhal keeon banaya jab key hamaray mosashrey main shadi key bagair bi to hawas pori ho jati hay and kisi ko kano kan khabar naeen hoti

pir shadi ker key nishana keeon baney ,

app ney to us ko dhal keh dia , mujeh is baat ka answer deen key ager wo dhal na bantey , shadi na kertay and wasey hi sab kuch ker atey to app kia kehtay . meray khial main kush hotey , esa hi hay na

tauseeftariq
1st June 2006, 20:41
as topic per bhut kuch lekha hai .. as thread mein

http://www.pegham.net/showthread.php?t=9632

as key last few pages dekh lein..

app key question ke answer yeh hain

1. 2nd shadi main ko bhi problem nahin.. agher koi 2non biwion ke ek jasy rakhy dono ka haq dey tu its fine

2.koi kisi bhi ummer mein shaidi kery ... 2nd ya 3rd its fine no prbolem with it

3.log kiyon bura samjhty hain?
many reasons for it.........
per ziyda ter loogon ke aqal as qabil nahin key woh 4 shadiyon ke hikmat ko samjhin..... oper sey MODREN log.. as koi bhut bura kehty hain aur khud .............. chalooo jany doo....

Muhammad Khalil
1st June 2006, 21:02
yaar etni lambi behas....k bawajood...
main ny newpaper main para hay k
Arabian loag to shadion kee century ker jaty hain...
to aisi halat main kia jawab huna chayee

Shaim
1st June 2006, 21:02
app bohat masoom haain

what do you think about show biz.

show biz bi isi profession per perda dal ker khobsorat banaya gia profession hay .

:bb: :bb:
maine us typical profession ki baat ki thi k us main koi khud se nahii jaata
showbizz main bhi girl khud nahii jaati...usko ghar se support milti hai.....ghar se hi aisa enviroment milta hai jab hi to wo itni bold hooti hai k showbiz join karey......

Shaim
1st June 2006, 21:04
yaar etni lambi behas....k bawajood...
main ny newpaper main para hay k
Arabian loag to shadion kee century ker jaty hain...
to aisi halat main kia jawab huna chayee

unko chaapera maarna chahiye:slap: :fuming:
cricket ka match hai ya shaadi?:fuming:
lerki ki zindaagi hai ya kheel tamaasha?:fuming:

Muhammad Khalil
1st June 2006, 21:09
unko chaapera maarna chahiye:slap: :fuming:
cricket ka match hai ya shaadi?:fuming:
lerki ki zindaagi hai ya kheel tamaasha?:fuming:
Ok yeh left side wala Arabi hay:slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap ::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap:: slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::sl ap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap ::slap::slap::slap:

tauruskhan
1st June 2006, 21:12
unko chaapera maarna chahiye:slap: :fuming:
cricket ka match hai ya shaadi?:fuming:
lerki ki zindaagi hai ya kheel tamaasha?:fuming:

what `do you say about Holy Profit PBUH
he was also arab` and` married 12 times.

so her baat `kehney` sey pehlay `thora `sa soch lena` chayeh

Shaim
1st June 2006, 21:20
what `do you say about Holy Profit PBUH
he was also arab` and` married 12 times.

so her baat `kehney` sey pehlay `thora `sa soch lena` chayeh

PROPHET SAW ne jo 11 shaadiaan kiin.....wo hikmat k tehaat kiin....or hum unarabs kii bat ker rahe hain jo aj kal paae jaate hain......jo begher kise maqsad k 100 + shaadian kerte hain jinkey liye shaadi or girl ki life sirf kheel tamaasha hai
apne PROPHET SAW ki baat ki.....to unho ne 11 shaadion k baad apni ummat ko maximum 4 hi shaadion ki ijazat q di?
or jab ik muslim 4 shaadian ker sakta hai according 2 ISLAM.......to 100+ shaadian ISLAM main kaahan ijaazat hai inki???

so maine jo ooper boola tha wo un arabs k baarey main boola tha jo 100+ shaadian kerte hain.....or unhe pata bhi nahii hoota k previous wife or bacche kahaan hain even ik case maine suna tha arabs ka ap sun lain to apko bhi un per ghussa ai ga.......

aise arabs jo 100+ shaadian kerte hain WAQAI CHAAPEREY K LAAIQ HAIN!:fuming: :slap: :fuming:

tauruskhan
1st June 2006, 21:29
PROPHET SAW ne jo 11 shaadiaan kiin.....wo hikmat k tehaat kiin....or hum unarabs kii bat ker rahe hain jo aj kal paae jaate hain......jo begher kise maqsad k 100 + shaadian kerte hain jinkey liye shaadi or girl ki life sirf kheel tamaasha hai
apne PROPHET SAW ki baat ki.....to unho ne 11 shaadion k baad apni ummat ko maximum 4 hi shaadion ki ijazat q di?
or jab ik muslim 4 shaadian ker sakta hai according 2 ISLAM.......to 100+ shaadian ISLAM main kaahan ijaazat hai inki???

so maine jo ooper boola tha wo un arabs k baarey main boola tha jo 100+ shaadian kerte hain.....or unhe pata bhi nahii hoota k previous wife or bacche kahaan hain even ik case maine suna tha arabs ka ap sun lain to apko bhi un per ghussa ai ga.......

aise arabs jo 100+ shaadian kerte hain WAQAI CHAAPEREY K LAAIQ HAIN!:fuming: :slap: :fuming:

app ko kis nay `kaha key sirf 4 ki limit hay `

according to Quran`
"Marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one."

[Al-Qur’an 4:3]

yahan 4 per koi limit naeen` hay , ayat ka matlab yeh `hay key muslim key liya sirf 1 shadi `ki ijazat` hay` lakin` ager` wo adal `ker sakta `hay to `wo 2 keray , 3 karey `ya 4.
jumlay `sey andaza `hota hay key yeh koi limit naeen hay

second kuch ulma to is key barey `main yeh` bi` kehtay `haan key yeh` sirf aik `wakat ki` baat` hay , key at `a` time` 4` raksaktey `haan`,` `for `life ki `baat `yahan `naeen` hay.` keeon` `key` adal ki` baat to us `per lagoo` hi naeen ho gi jo aik bewi key mernay key baad dosri `shadi keray` ga

tauruskhan
1st June 2006, 21:33
islam ney 4 shadion` ki ijazat naeen` di
ijazat sirf 1 ki di hay lakin` majbori main` sharayat key sath mazeed kernay ki ijazat di hay key wo aik sey zeada shadi ker sakey.

Shaim
1st June 2006, 21:35
app ko kis nay `kaha key sirf 4 ki limit hay `

according to Quran`
"Marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one."

[Al-Qur’an 4:3]

yahan 4 per koi limit naeen` hay , ayat ka matlab yeh `hay key muslim key liya sirf 1 shadi `ki ijazat` hay` lakin` ager` wo adal `ker sakta `hay to `wo 2 keray , 3 karey `ya 4.
jumlay `sey andaza `hota hay key yeh koi limit naeen hay

second kuch ulma to is key barey `main yeh` bi` kehtay `haan key yeh` sirf aik `wakat ki` baat` hay , key at `a` time` 4` raksaktey `haan`,` `for `life ki `baat `yahan `naeen` hay.` keeon` `key` adal ki` baat to us `per lagoo` hi naeen ho gi jo aik bewi key mernay key baad dosri `shadi keray` ga

at a time 4 ki hi limit hai........jabkey arabs at a time ann-ginaat shaadian kerte hain......i think unko apni co-wives n kids k naam bhi sahee se yaad nahi hoon ge:sad1:

Shaim
1st June 2006, 21:37
Ok yeh left side wala Arabi hay:slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap ::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap:: slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::sl ap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap::slap ::slap::slap::slap:

:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

tauruskhan
1st June 2006, 21:46
at a time 4 ki hi limit hai........jabkey arabs at a time ann-ginaat shaadian kerte hain......i think unko apni co-wives n kids k naam bhi sahee se yaad nahi hoon ge:sad1:

arab chaleen` shadi to kertay haan` ,indio pak key log and` angreez
to bagair shadi key sab` kuch kertay haan ager wo us ko shumar kernay lageen` to arboon` sey kaheen` agey nikal jaeen`

Shaim
1st June 2006, 21:49
arab chaleen` shadi to kertay haan` ,indio pak key log and` angreez
to bagair shadi key sab` kuch kertay haan ager wo us ko shumar kernay lageen` to arboon` sey kaheen` agey nikal jaeen`

unko choorain wo jo bhi kariin......hum MUSLIMS ki n doosri shadi ki bat ker rahe hain

tauruskhan
1st June 2006, 21:58
unko choorain wo jo bhi kariin......hum MUSLIMS ki n doosri shadi ki bat ker rahe hain
so to sirf itni hay key islam ney sirf 1 shadi ki ijazat di hay and thats it

Shaim
1st June 2006, 22:00
so to sirf itni hay key islam ney sirf 1 shadi ki ijazat di hay and thats it

YES n masleehat k tehet u can have 2/3/4 wives at a time

tauruskhan
1st June 2006, 22:03
baki yeh key jo log apni wife sey satisfy na hoon to wo zana kernay ki jaga shadi ker lain.

tauruskhan
1st June 2006, 22:04
YES n masleehat k tehet u can have 2/3/4 wives at a time
yahian` sey mujeh ik baat yaad ai
do you know about nika bil wakat. jis ko muta bi` kehtay haan``````````````````

Shaim
1st June 2006, 22:10
yahian` sey mujeh ik baat yaad ai
do you know about nika bil wakat. jis ko muta bi` kehtay haan``````````````````

Nahiii
ye term 1st time suni hai?
wo NIKKAH jo waqt per hoota hai?:pagal:

tauruskhan
1st June 2006, 22:20
Nahiii
ye term 1st time suni hai?
wo NIKKAH jo waqt per hoota hai?:pagal:

quran` main 5`parey ki `shorow ki ayat main` is key barey main `haen`

yani aik khas` modat `tak key liya nikha` jis `key baad nikha kahtam ho jata `hay and shorow mehar ( jo key` mostley agreed rakam hoti hay) bewi `ko `deta `hay

Hazrat Ummar RA ney` is `ko khatam kerwaya tha . lakin` aheley tashee `main` aj bi `raij hay.

is main` hota yeh tha key Hazoor PBUH key zamaney main` log jab saffar key liya nikaltey they to aksar khawateen` sath na` hoti theen`. to us wakat ijazat di gai thee `key jis `jaga` paroo` kia jaeey and` wahan nika` bil `wakat ker lia jaeey. and is key nateejay main` ager ulad ho jaeey to walid us ulad ka kharacha bardasht karey ga.

Ahley tashee main` to aj bi raij `hay , `nika bil `wakat.

Shaim
1st June 2006, 22:27
quran` main 5`parey ki `shorow ki ayat main` is key barey main `haen`

yani aik khas` modat `tak key liya nikha` jis `key baad nikha kahtam ho jata `hay and shorow mehar ( jo key` mostley agreed rakam hoti hay) bewi `ko `deta `hay

Hazrat Ummar RA ney` is `ko khatam kerwaya tha . lakin` aheley tashee `main` aj bi `raij hay.

is main` hota yeh tha key Hazoor PBUH key zamaney main` log jab saffar key liya nikaltey they to aksar khawateen` sath na` hoti theen`. to us wakat ijazat di gai thee `key jis `jaga` paroo` kia jaeey and` wahan nika` bil `wakat ker lia jaeey. and is key nateejay main` ager ulad ho jaeey to walid us ulad ka kharacha bardasht karey ga.

Ahley tashee main` to aj bi raij `hay , `nika bil `wakat.

to log hamesha k liye ager NIKKAH kerna chahin to?ye NIKKAH extend ho jata hai?

tauruskhan
1st June 2006, 22:32
to log hamesha k liye ager NIKKAH kerna chahin to?ye NIKKAH extend ho jata hai?

jahan tak meri knowledge hay key duration complete honey kay baad dubara kerna perta hay jo normal pori life ka nikkah hota hay

wasey is key barey main koi ahley tashee zeada behtar bata sakta hay

mujeh to yeh baat us wakat pata lagi thee , jab main ney aik jaga swal kia tha key jab country main` jo key aik so called islamic hay wahan "......." wagera ka karobar itnay khuley amm keeon `ho raha hay

to pata laga key bakaida un` key pass liscences hota hay and wo apney app ko ahley tashee kehtay haan and` ager koi police un` ko pakarney jaeey to yeh dehka dia jata hay key bakiyada nika ki ijazat hay in sab` ko

so strange haan` na

Shaim
1st June 2006, 22:35
jahan tak meri knowledge hay key duration complete honey kay baad dubara kerna perta hay jo normal pori life ka nikkah hota hay

wasey is key barey main koi ahley tashee zeada behtar bata sakta hay

mujeh to yeh baat us wakat pata lagi thee , jab main ney aik jaga swal kia tha key jab country main` jo key aik so called islamic hay wahan "......." wagera ka karobar itnay khuley amm keeon `ho raha hay

to pata laga key bakaida un` key pass liscences hota hay and wo apney app ko ahley tashee kehtay haan and` ager koi police un` ko pakarney jaeey to yeh dehka dia jata hay key bakiyada nika ki ijazat hay in sab` ko

so strange haan` na

prostitutes NIKKAH bhi kerti hain????:cc: to phir wo prostitutes to na hoi na?
ye to 1st time sunaa hai???
wasey lisence wali bat pata thi........per ye nahi pata k lisence kon issue kerta hai n q?:fuming:

tauruskhan
1st June 2006, 22:43
prostitutes NIKKAH bhi kerti hain????:cc: to phir wo prostitutes to na hoi na?
ye to 1st time sunaa hai???
wasey lisence wali bat pata thi........per ye nahi pata k lisence kon issue kerta hai n q?:fuming:

liscence kia hota hay kisi authority ki terf sey certificate hota hay key haan` jee yeh ahley tashee haan` and yeh nikah bil wakat ker sakti haan`

Allah janey key yeh log khutba nikkah pertay bi haan` ya naeen`
lakin` jab` bi police chapa marti hay to nikkah key kaghazat samney rakh deya jatey haan` key yeh nikah bil wakat hoa hay. and so so....

Shaim
1st June 2006, 22:48
liscence kia hota hay kisi authority ki terf sey certificate hota hay key haan` jee yeh ahley tashee haan` and yeh nikah bil wakat ker sakti haan`

Allah janey key yeh log khutba nikkah pertay bi haan` ya naeen`
lakin` jab` bi police chapa marti hay to nikkah key kaghazat samney rakh deya jatey haan` key yeh nikah bil wakat hoa hay. and so so....

:budhu: :budhu: aaaawy ka aaawa hi bigra hooa hai

tauruskhan
1st June 2006, 22:55
:budhu: :budhu: aaaawy ka aaawa hi bigra hooa hai

is ki waja sey aik faida tha key yeh log normal living areas sey alheada rehtay they , lakin` showbiz ki waja sey yeh log aaista aaista normal logon` main gultay miltey ja rahey haan

Shaim
2nd June 2006, 07:27
is ki waja sey aik faida tha key yeh log normal living areas sey alheada rehtay they , lakin` showbiz ki waja sey yeh log aaista aaista normal logon` main gultay miltey ja rahey haan

Hmmm ok!:comfort:

aabi2cool
4th June 2006, 14:33
:rose:

aabi2cool
4th June 2006, 14:35
:)

aabi2cool
4th June 2006, 14:37
:rose

Muhammad Khalil
4th June 2006, 16:19
Great aabi yaar....
main samj gia jehan main ghalti ker raha tha...bakee batian raat ko hugi

Shaim
4th June 2006, 16:59
Assalam-o-Alikum aabi bhai!

Apka tafseeli reply perha….or apkey her point ko samajhne ki koshish bhi ki:blush:
1stly I wanna say 1 thing k pegham ik family k jesa hai to yahan her koi apne khiyaalat ka izhaar be-dharak n khul k ker sakta hai….!:shh:
Or phir ye to section hi BEHES-O-MUBAHISA kaa hai or ap bhi is bat se ashna hoon gey k behes kerte waqt insaan ik nuqtey per baat shoru kerta hai to bat buhat door tak nikal jaati hai isse liye isko BEHES kehte hain na?:)
Warna…..normal gupshup kehte….!
Ziada points discuss hoote hain to topic ziadaa khul ker saamney aata hai……!
So plz members per innnnni dhaaar saari tanqeed to sahee nahii na?:sad1:
Koi bhi person jo bhi bolna chahey usko boolney dain or uskey her point per ghor Karin….bat ziada sahee tareeqe se samajh main aye gi:)
Aapka topic buhat intresting tha……yuun hi acche acche topics k saath hameshaa aatey rahiyye:thmbup: …..per thoora cool ho ker:hb:…….takey hum apko aaabi2cool bhai keh sakin:kr: ….lollz….


Now come 2 the points raised by u:bb:
Being girl I cant accept the concept of 2nd marriage….n 2ndly ap khud soochain ik person ki 4 wives hoon to uski attention n care ka kitna part miley ga uski wives ko? 25% each wife ko miley ga na?
Ik girl buhaaaaat ziada sensitive hooti hai n mard kabhi aurat ki feelings ko nahi samajh sakte…..usko 100% attention chahiye hooti hai……ye bikhri hoi attention se uski psychi per bhi –ve effect hoota hai…..q k majority mard ik hi shadi kerte hain or ager uska husband 4 karey ga to obviously usko feel ho ga k wo normal girls jesi life nahi guzaar rahi….
Apne point uthaaya k GHAR KA KAAM BATT JAATA HAI………..aurtoon main wase hi ik –ve element of jealousy buhaat ziadaa hai……to kia us girl ko baaqi 3 wives jisney uske husband ko 75% share kia hai……wo jealous nahi hoon gi???:lol
Aise main mil ker rehna or ik doosrey ko bardasht kerna hi buhaat mushkil hai :nunu: kaam kerna to buhat door ki baat:p
Ziada babies……hmm well wat can I say here:cc: ……per itna hi kahoon gi k

Hazaaron khuahishain aise k her khuahish pe dum nikle
Buhat nikle mere armnaan lakin phir bhi kam nikle

2/3 chunno/munno per hi iktifaa ker lena chahiye:khi: .
Ik point jo waqai rational hai wo ye hai k females ziada n males kam hain……to aise main buhat c girls un married hi reh jaati hain…….i agree wid u here
Per mera khiyal hai k insaan ik girl ki poori tarah care karey or poori attention de 100% ye ziada behter hai bajae iske k 4 girls ko bound bhi rakhe or wo khush bhi na hoon

Aurat ki sehat…………well aurat ki sehat tab ziada kharab hooti hai jab wo jealous hooti hai 3 wives k hooney se :lol or jab wo satisfied nahi hooti internally……
Happy couples wahi hoon ge jinhe 100% attention miley ik doosre ki….Right??

so KHUSH RAHIIYE:salam:
n dont think abt 2nd marriage:na: :lol

RulzZ
5th June 2006, 13:30
:rose:

As Salam o Alaikum,
Mujhay ab tak yeh he baat samajh aai hai k hum islam ki knowledge k baghair us ki qawaneen ka samjhay baghair mazaq uRa daytay hain, aur phir jab "asal islam" humain samajh aata hai tab bhi khud say nafrat nahee hoti....!!
jis din humain aik choti si baat "islam deen-e-fitrat hai" samajh aagai us din tamam aihkamaat samajh aajain gaiy, humara aik sangeen mas'ala "ibn-ul-waqat ulma-e-karaam" bhi hain....!! jo deen ko "khushnuma" bana kar paish kar'rhay hain, halankay islam nay jo had muqar'rar kardi woh aakhri had hai us k baad koi nai had'bandi nahee kar'sakta...!!
Ijtehad masail par hota hai aihkamaat par nahee.....!!

RulzZ
5th June 2006, 13:54
Assalam-o-Alikum aabi bhai!

Koi bhi person jo bhi bolna chahey usko boolney dain or uskey her point per ghor Karin….bat ziada sahee tareeqe se samajh main aye gi:)


agar ijazat ho to aitraaz karloon is baat par :lpop:, maiN nay yahaan par Admin ki taraf say lagaiy gaiy rules ka mutala kia hai aap ki red quote baat us rule k khilaaf hai ....!! aap chahain us thread main parh sakti hain .....
aap ki baat k behas isi ko kehtay hain bilkul ghalat, raiwaR main janwar bhant bhant ki boliaaN bool kar kisi guthi ko nahee suljha rhay hotay....!! behas humaisha point to point he hoti hai.... :rose

Shaim
5th June 2006, 18:33
agar ijazat ho to aitraaz karloon is baat par :lpop:, maiN nay yahaan par Admin ki taraf say lagaiy gaiy rules ka mutala kia hai aap ki red quote baat us rule k khilaaf hai ....!! aap chahain us thread main parh sakti hain .....
aap ki baat k behas isi ko kehtay hain bilkul ghalat, raiwaR main janwar bhant bhant ki boliaaN bool kar kisi guthi ko nahee suljha rhay hotay....!! behas humaisha point to point he hoti hai.... :rose


Ji bilkul her itiraaz ki full ijazat hai ager wo sahee ho to:)
:bb: me rule k khilaaf ho gae:blush:
baat sirf itni hai k bat ko her aspect se discuss kerin to wo ziada khul ker saamney hai....haan ager behes topic se hatt k ho...chit chat to wo totally ghalt hai!
Right?:)

Mr. Sialkoty
6th June 2006, 07:58
I read the contents of your reply carefully and got to know that you highlighted and articulated some sagacious points but somewhere the tone in which you replied was not really impressive. Everyone has his/her own ideology, assessment and approach to discuss an issue, for this we can’t point finger at anyone until and unless we got assured about the legitimacy of that particular topic. A proper discussion is something that entails refererences and logics to carry on and sometimes it does deviate from its origin. Due to our limited knowledge sometimes it becomes difficult to remain around the origin and we go around to seek for something supportable with bit relevancy as discussion in itself veracity is seomthing flexible and has a lot of room to expand. Getting sticky at the same spot is not a criteria of discussion. A bad thing is that while discussing the religious matters we consider ourselves an authenticity, which is absolutely not good. We try to come up with more logics as to support our idealogy (regardless of considering its validity) and sometimes with irrelevant and non-sense logics. It reminds me a saying “logical is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion with confidence”. Sometimes we exactly prove it. It is pleasant to see that you have a bit deep insight into the religious matters and you highlighted and articulated a couple of quite good and relevant references that are worth-mentioning. Thumbs up to you. But don’t forget there is still a room in your knowledge and your approach is not final but still good. Keep writing.

aabi2cool
6th June 2006, 13:47
aslamo alykum AAMIR bhai, main aap ki baat ka lubi lubab samjh gaya hon agar aap samjhty hain k mera baat karny ka andaz khuch jare hana to main iskiliye mazart khawa hon aur is ka sath sath aap ny kaha k hum log jab islam ki baat karty hain to khud ko final athorti samjhty huy karty hain ....likin mera naheen khiyal k main yahaan khcuh aysa kiya hy is k ilawa aap ny kaha k har insaan ki apni apni idealogy hoti hy aur apna pana poient of view hota hy to mery bhai bilkul theek hy likin main ny yahaan baat islam k awaly se ki thi aur sawal ye poucha tha k agar islam ijazat deta hy to phir hamara moashra kiuon bura samjhta hy dosri shadi ko likin kisi ny is taraf tawju anheen ki balk sab hi mutlakan dosri shadi k bary main behas karny lag gay ... main ny ye sawal hargiz naheen kiya tha k islaam main dosri shadi ki ijazat hy ya naheen ? kiuon k mery khiyal main ye sawala jahaalt par mabni hota aur is par disction karna jab k islam ijazat de chuka ho haram hy..aap ki tamam nashehteen sar ankhon par agar aap urdu main baat kareen to ziyada behatar hy kiuon k mujhy angreezi naheen aati aur ayen mumkin hy main aap ki baat ka ghalat matlab ley lon

Mr. Sialkoty
7th June 2006, 06:47
aslamo alykum AAMIR bhai, main aap ki baat ka lubi lubab samjh gaya hon agar aap samjhty hain k mera baat karny ka andaz khuch jare hana to main iskiliye mazart khawa hon aur is ka sath sath aap ny kaha k hum log jab islam ki baat karty hain to khud ko final athorti samjhty huy karty hain ....likin mera naheen khiyal k main yahaan khcuh aysa kiya hy is k ilawa aap ny kaha k har insaan ki apni apni idealogy hoti hy aur apna pana poient of view hota hy to mery bhai bilkul theek hy likin main ny yahaan baat islam k awaly se ki thi aur sawal ye poucha tha k agar islam ijazat deta hy to phir hamara moashra kiuon bura samjhta hy dosri shadi ko likin kisi ny is taraf tawju anheen ki balk sab hi mutlakan dosri shadi k bary main behas karny lag gay ... main ny ye sawal hargiz naheen kiya tha k islaam main dosri shadi ki ijazat hy ya naheen ? kiuon k mery khiyal main ye sawala jahaalt par mabni hota aur is par disction karna jab k islam ijazat de chuka ho haram hy..aap ki tamam nashehteen sar ankhon par agar aap urdu main baat kareen to ziyada behatar hy kiuon k mujhy angreezi naheen aati aur ayen mumkin hy main aap ki baat ka ghalat matlab ley lon

Wa alaikum Aslam!

Abid mein ne apne first reply mein yahi kaha tha ke hum loogon ka almiya yeh he ke hum islaam se ziada moaashra aur culture discuss kerte hein. Ager kisi aik maslehat ya kai maslehatoon ki bunyaad per Islam ne doosri shadi ki ijazat di he then where does our society stand?

Moaashray ko apni sooch tabdeel kerni chahiye, aik awareness ki zaroorat he, ager hamara moaashra dosri shadi ko acha nahi samajta to mein yahi kahoon ga ke yeh unka lack of knowledge he towards islam. Islam ki her cheez mein koi na koi maslehat he...ager hamari aankhon pe patti bandhi hui he aur hamein wo maslehat nazar nahi aati to hum kasoor-waar islam ko nahi thehra saktay. Aur waise bhi aik kool he "her cheez ko akal ki kasoosti pe parakhna akalmandi nahi hoti". Hum loog her baat ko apni nakas akal se parakhnay ki kooshish kerte hein aur yahi ghalti kerte hein.

Anyway Abid...your topic is quite good aur mein ne is topic ko best topic vote bhi kia he.

ummid
8th June 2006, 03:38
Aabid bhai hum yeh discussion start se padh rahe hain per part is liye nahi liya ke hume pata tha ke yeh behas phir dosri shadi, aurat ki fellings aur us ke emotins ka rukh legi:) ….lakeen ab hume munasib laga ke apne khayalat ka izhar ker hi dein…:) “sub se pahli baat jo hum yahan kehna chahte hain woh yeh hai ke jis cheez aur jis baat ki ijzat Islam ne de di phir usey masher ki nazron mein discuss karna sire se hi galat hai....ab ager hum aap ke sawal ka jawab dein ke mashra dosri shaadi ko bura kyun sumjhta hai tu humara jawab yeh hoga ke aisi koi baat nahi mashra dosri shaadi ko bura nahi sumjhta, yeh dosri shadi karne wale ko bura sumjhta hai kyun ke in our society common mentality about marriage is only one thing and that is nothing but sex…shaadi sirf yahi nahi…is ke alawa bhi bauhat kuch hai ..kai sukh dukh saath bante jaate hain, zeest ki rahon mein her ane wali mushkil ka mil ker samna kiya jaata hai, sukoon, muhabbat, chahat, izat yeh sub factor shadi ke baad her koi chahata hai. Humari mama ne hum se kaha tha ke aurat per hi munhasir ke gher ko jannat banaye ya jahanum phir jub koi aurat gher ko jahanum hi banana chahe tu Adam ka beta kyun na apni nai janat talash kare…..aur mard ke liye usi dosri janat ki talash aur us mein rehaish ko Islam ne jaiz aur halal maqam diya hai….yeh who baatein hain jin per hum gor nahi karte aik mard sirf apni haiwani khawahish puri karne ke liye tu nikah nahi karta na…..logon ne isi aik bat ko apne dimag mein bitha rakha hai ke dosri shaadi karne wale darasal apni kisi hawas ko pura karna chahte hain (yahi discussion first page per kaafi chala:) ) hosakta hai kahne walon ne sahi kaha ho lakeen ager koi aik sarasar haywani fail ko jaiz tareeqe se anjaam dena chata hai tu wawaila kis baat per…stop all this foolish discussion nikah ke rishtey ko sirf in foozol baton mein na toolein,apni soach-w-ifkar ko buland karein...mashra wahi kahta hai jo waqt ki awaz hoti hai yaani jis waqt jo khayal In hai mashra usi ka haami hai tu ab yeh humara kaam hai ke hum Islamic view ko In karein ke mashra us ka haami ho jaye….mashre ki lagam humare haath mein hi hai :) … (kisi ko bhi humare is reply mein koi baat buri lagi ho tu hum tah-e-dil se maafi chahte hain:mecry: )

Mr. Sialkoty
8th June 2006, 06:01
Aabid bhai hum yeh discussion start se padh rahe hain per part is liye nahi liya ke hume pata tha ke yeh behas phir dosri shadi, aurat ki fellings aur us ke emotins ka rukh legi:) ….lakeen ab hume munasib laga ke apne khayalat ka izhar ker hi dein…:) “sub se pahli baat jo hum yahan kehna chahte hain woh yeh hai ke jis cheez aur jis baat ki ijzat Islam ne de di phir usey masher ki nazron mein discuss karna sire se hi galat hai....ab ager hum aap ke sawal ka jawab dein ke mashra dosri shaadi ko bura kyun sumjhta hai tu humara jawab yeh hoga ke aisi koi baat nahi mashra dosri shaadi ko bura nahi sumjhta, yeh dosri shadi karne wale ko bura sumjhta hai kyun ke in our society common mentality about marriage is only one thing and that is nothing but sex…shaadi sirf yahi nahi…is ke alawa bhi bauhat kuch hai ..kai sukh dukh saath bante jaate hain, zeest ki rahon mein her ane wali mushkil ka mil ker samna kiya jaata hai, sukoon, muhabbat, chahat, izat yeh sub factor shadi ke baad her koi chahata hai. Humari mama ne hum se kaha tha ke aurat per hi munhasir ke gher ko jannat banaye ya jahanum phir jub koi aurat gher ko jahanum hi banana chahe tu Adam ka beta kyun na apni nai janat talash kare…..aur mard ke liye usi dosri janat ki talash aur us mein rehaish ko Islam ne jaiz aur halal maqam diya hai….yeh who baatein hain jin per hum gor nahi karte aik mard sirf apni haiwani khawahish puri karne ke liye tu nikah nahi karta na…..logon ne isi aik bat ko apne dimag mein bitha rakha hai ke dosri shaadi karne wale darasal apni kisi hawas ko pura karna chahte hain (yahi discussion first page per kaafi chala:) ) hosakta hai kahne walon ne sahi kaha ho lakeen ager koi aik sarasar haywani fail ko jaiz tareeqe se anjaam dena chata hai tu wawaila kis baat per…stop all this foolish discussion nikah ke rishtey ko sirf in foozol baton mein na toolein,apni soach-w-ifkar ko buland karein...mashra wahi kahta hai jo waqt ki awaz hoti hai yaani jis waqt jo khayal In hai mashra usi ka haami hai tu ab yeh humara kaam hai ke hum Islamic view ko In karein ke mashra us ka haami ho jaye….mashre ki lagam humare haath mein hi hai :) … (kisi ko bhi humare is reply mein koi baat buri lagi ho tu hum tah-e-dil se maafi chahte hain:mecry: )

going good:clap: :clap: :clap:

aap ki sooch achi he, bulke mein aap se agree kerta hoon, mera bhi nazriya aap se alag nahi he.

aap ne haiwaani fail ka lafz istamaal kiya, to arz yeh kerna chahoon ga ke ager wo fail na-jaiz tareekay se kia jaye to waqei wo haiwaani fail he. lekin ager jaiz tareekay se pura kia jaye to wo sara-ser insaani fail he...kyoon ke Allah Taalah ne he is fail ki hawas insaan mein paida ki aur Us ke her kaam mein koi na koi maslehat zaroor hoti he.

Baki aap ki her baat se itfaak kerta hoon :)

ummid
8th June 2006, 13:05
going good:clap: :clap: :clap:

aap ki sooch achi he, bulke mein aap se agree kerta hoon, mera bhi nazriya aap se alag nahi he.

aap ne haiwaani fail ka lafz istamaal kiya, to arz yeh kerna chahoon ga ke ager wo fail na-jaiz tareekay se kia jaye to waqei wo haiwaani fail he. lekin ager jaiz tareekay se pura kia jaye to wo sara-ser insaani fail he...kyoon ke Allah Taalah ne he is fail ki hawas insaan mein paida ki aur Us ke her kaam mein koi na koi maslehat zaroor hoti he.

Baki aap ki her baat se itfaak kerta hoon :)

Aap ne jis baat ko 3 se 4 line ka sahara le ker kaha hai wahi baat hum ne aik sentence mein kahi hai sirf sumjhne ka farq hai....:)
any way Thanx...:rose

Mr. Sialkoty
9th June 2006, 06:31
Aap ne jis baat ko 3 se 4 line ka sahara le ker kaha hai wahi baat hum ne aik sentence mein kahi hai sirf sumjhne ka farq hai....:)
any way Thanx...:rose

no thanx ji :lpop:

aabi2cool
9th June 2006, 17:26
Wa alaikum Aslam!

Abid mein ne apne first reply mein yahi kaha tha ke hum loogon ka almiya yeh he ke hum islaam se ziada moaashra aur culture discuss kerte hein. Ager kisi aik maslehat ya kai maslehatoon ki bunyaad per Islam ne doosri shadi ki ijazat di he then where does our society stand?

Moaashray ko apni sooch tabdeel kerni chahiye, aik awareness ki zaroorat he, ager hamara moaashra dosri shadi ko acha nahi samajta to mein yahi kahoon ga ke yeh unka lack of knowledge he towards islam. Islam ki her cheez mein koi na koi maslehat he...ager hamari aankhon pe patti bandhi hui he aur hamein wo maslehat nazar nahi aati to hum kasoor-waar islam ko nahi thehra saktay. Aur waise bhi aik kool he "her cheez ko akal ki kasoosti pe parakhna akalmandi nahi hoti". Hum loog her baat ko apni nakas akal se parakhnay ki kooshish kerte hein aur yahi ghalti kerte hein.

Anyway Abid...your topic is quite good aur mein ne is topic ko best topic vote bhi kia he.
Aslamo alykum AAMIR , bhai aap k ye alfaz parh kar mujhy abhi tuk yaqeen naheen araha k ye waqe hi aap k hain great:rose: mashALLAH aap ki souch bohat hi achi hy aur aap ny bilkul saheeh farmaya k moashray ki souch main tabdili lany ki zaroorat hy.....w/salaam aabi

aabi2cool
9th June 2006, 18:10
aslamo alykum ummed sister , main aap ki souch par kar bhat khush hua aap mujhy aap ki har baat se ittifaq hy seway do batoon k jo k darj zil hain in breckets...(:rose :rose k aap ka kehna hy k jis baat ki islaam ijazat de dey us ko moashray k hawaly se mozu e behas hi naheen banana chaiye sorry main aap ki baat se ittifaq naheen karta aur nahi meri samjh main aya hy k aap ny ye baat kiuon ki ..dekhiye islaam hain socity main rehan sehan ki bhi taleem deta hy islaam ny kisi pehlo ko chaye wo moashi ho moahrati ho ya mazhabi ho us ki rahnumai farmai hy aur hum sab ko bahasiyate muslim moashra islam k diye huy usooln ko samjhty huy un masail par imaan bhi lana chaiye aur ghouro fikkar bhi karna chaiye aur moashary ko khuli chuti aheen deni chaiye k wo jo chay samjhta phiray jab koi moashra khud ko islami kehny ka dawy daar hota hy to phir us ko islaam ki ksi taleemaat k khilaf apna koi nazriya chaye shaksi ho madi ho fitri ho jazbati ho ya nafsiyati kisi bhi kisam ka ho naheen rakhna chaiye.... aur mujhy aap ki is dosri baat k bhi samjh naheen aai k aap kehti hain k dosri shadi ko bura naheen samjhty balk dosri shadi karny waly ko bura samjha jata hy is to ajjeeeb baat ho gai k fail k bura naheen samjhty balk fail ko bura samjha jata hy....... baqi aap ki souch bohat achi hy aap zaroor shar kiya kijye khush rahiye w/ salaam aabi:rose

Mr. Sialkoty
10th June 2006, 07:17
Aslamo alykum AAMIR , bhai aap k ye alfaz parh kar mujhy abhi tuk yaqeen naheen araha k ye waqe hi aap k hain great:rose: mashALLAH aap ki souch bohat hi achi hy aur aap ny bilkul saheeh farmaya k moashray ki souch main tabdili lany ki zaroorat hy.....w/salaam aabi

:salam: :salam: :salam:

ummid
10th June 2006, 13:58
aslamo alykum ummed sister , main aap ki souch par kar bhat khush hua aap mujhy aap ki har baat se ittifaq hy seway do batoon k jo k darj zil hain in breckets...(:rose :rose k aap ka kehna hy k jis baat ki islaam ijazat de dey us ko moashray k hawaly se mozu e behas hi naheen banana chaiye sorry main aap ki baat se ittifaq naheen karta aur nahi meri samjh main aya hy k aap ny ye baat kiuon ki ..dekhiye islaam hain socity main rehan sehan ki bhi taleem deta hy islaam ny kisi pehlo ko chaye wo moashi ho moahrati ho ya mazhabi ho us ki rahnumai farmai hy aur hum sab ko bahasiyate muslim moashra islam k diye huy usooln ko samjhty huy un masail par imaan bhi lana chaiye aur ghouro fikkar bhi karna chaiye aur moashary ko khuli chuti aheen deni chaiye k wo jo chay samjhta phiray jab koi moashra khud ko islami kehny ka dawy daar hota hy to phir us ko islaam ki ksi taleemaat k khilaf apna koi nazriya chaye shaksi ho madi ho fitri ho jazbati ho ya nafsiyati kisi bhi kisam ka ho naheen rakhna chaiye.... aur mujhy aap ki is dosri baat k bhi samjh naheen aai k aap kehti hain k dosri shadi ko bura naheen samjhty balk dosri shadi karny waly ko bura samjha jata hy is to ajjeeeb baat ho gai k fail k bura naheen samjhty balk fail ko bura samjha jata hy....... baqi aap ki souch bohat achi hy aap zaroor shar kiya kijye khush rahiye w/ salaam aabi:rose


waalaikumaasalam………
Thanx aabi bhai….jin do baton per aap ne hum se itefaq zahir nahi kiya un do baton ka khoolasa aap ke liye likh rahe hain….Aap ka reply humare liye aiham hoga…
Pahli baat jo hum ne kahi thi ke jis baat ki ijazat Islam ne de di usey society ki nazron mein discuss karna sire se hi galat hai…aisa is liye kaha ke deen hume Hukm deta hai ,Islam mein kahein do raay nahi….aik mukamal aur thos deen hai humara…..yeh juzvi nahi kammil hai….her bat maslehat liye hoye hai…chaar shadiyon ki baat ho ya teen din baad murder halal ho jaane ki…. jub sub kuch tay hai…Allah ka hukm hai, hum muslaman hai, phir us hukm per sir jhukane ki bajaye logon se un ke view jana ke aap is bare mein kya soachte hain kuch galat nahi lagta??? Ager koi kahe ke hume is per aitraz hai tu is se kya farq padega… quran ka likha tu atal hai..Aur Allah ka faisla lazman (by hook or by crook in Arbic tauhan-w-karhan) hume mana hi hai..tu jin baton ka koi natija hi nahi nikle us per behas karna humare hisaab se sahi nahi..baaqi aap umer mein aur tajrube mein hum se aage hai….tajziya aur ilm bhi hum se bauhat zyada hai..Aap jo munasib sumjhein….
Dosri baat jo hum ne kahi thi ke mashra dosri shaadi ko nahi, dosri shaadi karne wale ko bura sumjhta hai tu yeh sahi hai hum ne abhi upper likha hai ke jo Allah ka hukm hai usey sub ko manna hai tu dosri shadi ki ijazat bhi Islam mein hai isi liye hum sub deeni aitbaar se is ke khilaaf kuch nahi kahte aur na hi kaih sakte hain lakeen jo dosri shadi kare usey tu kahte hain na jaisa us 60 years ke buzurg uncle aur 40 years ki aunty ko logon ne kaha….fail ko bura is liye nahi kaha gaya ke us ki ijazat Islam mein hai.faail ko is liye bura kaha gaya keh usey dunyaavi aitbar se daikha gaya…hum waise bhi apne first reply mein common mentality for marriage ka zikr ker chuke hain…..
hum ne kaafi kuch clear karne ki koshish ki hai I hope aap ko humara nazariya sumjh aagaya ho….Aap ke lafzon ki mithas ne hume itna kuch likhne per majboor kiya warna hum apni hi kisi baat ko clear karne ke liye itna bauhat kum bolte hain…
(Aap se aik request hai plzz aap jo bhi reply kijye us mein easy urdu wordz use kijyega..hume itni mushkil urdu nahi aati…)
Aap ki sister…
UMMID AALAM…

aabi2cool
11th June 2006, 05:36
:rose

laila
11th June 2006, 06:20
ooooohhhh Khodaya itni lambhi behes or her bat main orat bori hi he
or wese bhi mardo ko to moqa milna chahye orton per kicher ochalne ke leye kabhi mardon ki borayon per bhi behes ker liya karen


jub bhi dosri ya tesri shadi ki bat ati he to akser kia zeyada ter logon ka yahi jawab hota he ke islam hume is ki ijazut deta he islam main or bhi bohot koch he sekhne ko samajne ko wo kam to koi karta nahi na hi samjna chahta he ye shadi wali baten bari jaldi samaj main a jaten he

or Abid bhai ap aj kul dosri,tesri sadi per bara zor de rahe ho khereyat hi he na:cc:

ummid
11th June 2006, 12:47
:rose


yes bhai.......hume aap ki baat sumjh aagai.uski tayh tak tu nahi poahanch paaye kyun ke urdu aap ki thodi mushkil hai..lakeen aap jo kahna chate the hume sumjh aagaya....thanxxx humare liye itna accha reply karne ke liye...Aap waqai acha likhte hain hume is mein kahein koi talkh baat nazar nahi aayi..is liye no sorry....balke humari kisi foozol baat per aap ko koi takleef hoi ho tu humara sorry qoobol kijye...
khush rahiye..
Aap ki pyaari Islami behan..
Ummid Aalam...

Mr. Sialkoty
12th June 2006, 07:19
Salam Ummid and Abad

aap doono ke replies perhay, bohat si baatein to is thread mein wazeh ho chuki hein. Ub kuch in general add kerna chahoon ga ke insaani zindagi mein do cheezein bohat aser andaaz hoti hein, aik deen aur doosra dunia yani moaashra. Hamari priority Mazhab honi chahiye na ke moaashra.

Mazhab islaam apne ander la-taadaad maslehatein simoye huay he. Baaz aukaat hamain apni kamzoor beeni ki waja se is ki maslehatein nazar nahi aatein. Yani ager kisi baat per Islam ne kisi cheez ka hukam sadar ferma diya he, ya kisi maslay ka hal beyaan kia he to us per behas kerne se hamein bohat si maslehaton se aagahi ho jati he...shart yeh he ke yeh behas baraye behas se ziada behas baraye islaah ho. Waise bhi yeh hukam he ke deen ko samajnay ki kooshish karo, aur deen ko samajnay ke liye hamein kisi zariye ki zaroorat hoti he, yeh zariya kitaab bhi ho sakti he aur koi aur insaan bhi.

Allah Taalah hamaray ilm mein izafa fermaye aur hamari ghaltiyoon ko maaf fermaye...aameen

tauruskhan
19th June 2006, 13:55
:rose

Asalam-0-Alikum

maaf kejay ga , app islam ki aik baat ko ghalat rang chara ker pesh ker rahey haan

jesa key pehlay bi bata chuka hon key Quran dunia per wo wahid religious book hay jo key sirf one shadi ka kehti hay

jeh mera bian naeen balkey dorey hazer key azeem alim Dr Zakir Nayak ka hay

The context of this phrase is the following verse from Surah Nisa of the Glorious Qur’an:

"Marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one."

[Al-Qur’an 4:3]

islam ney admi ko ijazat di hay shadi kernay ki , 2, 3,ya 4 khawateen key sath lakin is shaart per key un key dermian adal ker sakeen to



In the same chapter i.e. Surah Nisa verse 129 says:

"Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women...."

[Al-Qur’an 4:129]

Therefore polygyny is not a rule but an exception. Many people are under the misconception that it is compulsory for a Muslim man to have more than one wife.

Broadly, Islam has five categories of Do’s and Don’ts:

‘Fard’ i.e. compulsory or obligatory

‘Mustahab’ i.e. recommended or encouraged

‘Mubah’ i.e. permissible or allowed

‘Makruh’ i.e. not recommended or discouraged

‘Haraam’ i.e. prohibited or forbidden

Polygyny falls in the middle category of things that are permissible.

Now come to the next

Quran key motabik chapter 4 sora nissa aayat 129

tum is per qudrat naeen raktey key apni bewion key dermian adal ker sako chayeh kitna hi tum chahooo.

halankey ayat 3 main yeh sharat hey key dosri shadi usi wakat karo jab tum adal ker saktey ho

ab quran sey sabit hota hay key ager dosri shadi karoo to sakt sharat hay key adal kero according to sora nissa ayaat 3 jo key tumari nature main neen hay according to ayat 129


app jantey haan key jo bi dosri shadi kerta hay , mostly pata lag jata hay and key wo kitna insaaf ker raha hay
so koi ager bora kehta hay to ghalat naeen kehta
keeon key Quran khod kehta hay key

admi apni bewion main adal naeen ker sakta

abi 2 cool bahi



so pehlay quran ko acchi tarah samjeen per baat kia kerain
app ko meri bateen intasahar ka shikar nazar ati haan , halankey yeh to according to Quran haan

waja yeh hay key app ney adhori ayat peri and dosri shadi ki ijazat sun ker khosh ho gay , sath shart ka naeen perha and ayat number 129 ko bi naeen perha

so kindly dobra quran ataeeyeh and acchi tarah peryeh

aabi2cool
19th June 2006, 17:01
AAP KO AGAR MUJH SE BAAT KARNI HY BARAY MEHARBANI URDU MAIN KIJIYE BAQI RAHA DR ZAKIR NAYK KI BAAT TO MAIN UN KO MANTA HON K WO AIK ACHY ISALMI SCHLOR HAIN LIKIN MOAAF KIJYE GA WO KOI NA TO MOHADES HAIN NA FAQEEH HAIN UN KA SABJECT TAQBUL E ADYAN HY WO AGAR US MAIN HI KAAM KAREEN TO BEHTAR HY JAB WO FIQQHI MASAIL BAYAN KARTY HAIN TO AKSAR GHALAT RAY DETY HAIN .....

tauruskhan
19th June 2006, 17:43
AAP KO AGAR MUJH SE BAAT KARNI HY BARAY MEHARBANI URDU MAIN KIJIYE BAQI RAHA DR ZAKIR NAYK KI BAAT TO MAIN UN KO MANTA HON K WO AIK ACHY ISALMI SCHLOR HAIN LIKIN MOAAF KIJYE GA WO KOI NA TO MOHADES HAIN NA FAQEEH HAIN UN KA SABJECT TAQBUL E ADYAN HY WO AGAR US MAIN HI KAAM KAREEN TO BEHTAR HY JAB WO FIQQHI MASAIL BAYAN KARTY HAIN TO AKSAR GHALAT RAY DETY HAIN .....

mashallah app to bohat pohanchay hoey haan
and unhoon ney jo Qurani dalalil dey wo app key nazdeek ghalat haan
very good

bahi app logon ka yahi to masla hay
app logon ney deen ko mazak bana liya hay
jo kuch Quran o hadees kaheey wo ghalat , jo app kaheen wo durust
very good jee very good

lagey raheen app Quran o hadees ko chor ker apni baat per

Allah Bhala keray hmm sab ka

ummid
20th June 2006, 03:22
mashallah app to bohat pohanchay hoey haan
and unhoon ney jo Qurani dalalil dey wo app key nazdeek ghalat haan
very good

bahi app logon ka yahi to masla hay
app logon ney deen ko mazak bana liya hay
jo kuch Quran o hadees kaheey wo ghalat , jo app kaheen wo durust
very good jee very good

lagey raheen app Quran o hadees ko chor ker apni baat per

Allah Bhala keray hmm sab ka

Asalmaalaikum......:)
Aap ko humare aabi bhai se is lehajay mein baat nahi karni chaiye. Aap ka apna view hai aur un ka apna…….aap ko koi haq nahi ke aap is tarah kisi kisi per bhi tanz karein….Aap ko apni baat kaihni hai aur aap ko lagta hai keh aap haq per hain tu plzzz be polite and try to use those words or statements which not harm someone self respects…ok!!
Khush rahiye..
Allahafiz..

ummid
20th June 2006, 03:28
Asalam-0-Alikum

maaf kejay ga , app islam ki aik baat ko ghalat rang chara ker pesh ker rahey haan

jesa key pehlay bi bata chuka hon key Quran dunia per wo wahid religious book hay jo key sirf one shadi ka kehti hay

jeh mera bian naeen balkey dorey hazer key azeem alim Dr Zakir Nayak ka hay

The context of this phrase is the following verse from Surah Nisa of the Glorious Qur’an:

"Marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one."

[Al-Qur’an 4:3]

islam ney admi ko ijazat di hay shadi kernay ki , 2, 3,ya 4 khawateen key sath lakin is shaart per key un key dermian adal ker sakeen to



In the same chapter i.e. Surah Nisa verse 129 says:

"Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women...."

[Al-Qur’an 4:129]

Therefore polygyny is not a rule but an exception. Many people are under the misconception that it is compulsory for a Muslim man to have more than one wife.

Broadly, Islam has five categories of Do’s and Don’ts:

‘Fard’ i.e. compulsory or obligatory

‘Mustahab’ i.e. recommended or encouraged

‘Mubah’ i.e. permissible or allowed

‘Makruh’ i.e. not recommended or discouraged

‘Haraam’ i.e. prohibited or forbidden

Polygyny falls in the middle category of things that are permissible.

Now come to the next

Quran key motabik chapter 4 sora nissa aayat 129

tum is per qudrat naeen raktey key apni bewion key dermian adal ker sako chayeh kitna hi tum chahooo.

halankey ayat 3 main yeh sharat hey key dosri shadi usi wakat karo jab tum adal ker saktey ho

ab quran sey sabit hota hay key ager dosri shadi karoo to sakt sharat hay key adal kero according to sora nissa ayaat 3 jo key tumari nature main neen hay according to ayat 129


app jantey haan key jo bi dosri shadi kerta hay , mostly pata lag jata hay and key wo kitna insaaf ker raha hay
so koi ager bora kehta hay to ghalat naeen kehta
keeon key Quran khod kehta hay key

admi apni bewion main adal naeen ker sakta

abi 2 cool bahi



so pehlay quran ko acchi tarah samjeen per baat kia kerain
app ko meri bateen intasahar ka shikar nazar ati haan , halankey yeh to according to Quran haan

waja yeh hay key app ney adhori ayat peri and dosri shadi ki ijazat sun ker khosh ho gay , sath shart ka naeen perha and ayat number 129 ko bi naeen perha

so kindly dobra quran ataeeyeh and acchi tarah peryeh

Waalaikumaasalm..
Aap ne jo kuch bhi likha hai yahn hum ne padha balke chaar se paanch baar padha. Aap apni baat kaih chuke ab humari bhi padh lijye...............
Paihli baat jo hai who yeh ke yahan, is thread mein kisi neb hi yeh nahi kaha ke chaar shaadiyan “farz” hain..humara discussion is baat per hai k eager Islam chaar shadiyoon ko jayaz (lawfull, legal) qarar deta hai tu mashrah usey bura kuyun sumjhta hai?????
Aap ne jin aayat ka hawalah diya hai unhein aayat ko samne rakhte hoye yeh padhiye..(yaani Sura-e-nissa Aayat no:3 aur 129):
“Aik mard (ager zarorat mand) hai tu chaar aurtein apne nikah mein rakh sakta hai lakeen is se zyadah nahi”
“Raha sawal Insaaf ka tu ager aik shaks ki aik se zyadah biwiyaan hongi tu dil talooq aur muhabbat mein who sub ke saath yaksaan(similar) soolok nahi ker sakta kyun ke muhabbat fail-e-qalbi (related to heart) hai jis per koi ikhtiyaar nahi..khud Aap(PBUH) ko bhi apni biwiyon mein sub se zyadah muhabbat hazrat Aayshah(RZ) se thi…khuwahish ke baawajood insaaf na karne ka matlab yahi qalbi millan(bend of heart) hai aur muhabbat mein adam masawat hai ager yeh muhabbat “zahiri” hooqoq mein manay(obstacle) na bane tu Indallah(before Allah) Qabil-e-moakhizah( accountability) nahi…………lakeen aksar log is qalbi milaan ki wajah se dosri biwiyon ke hooqoq ki adaygi mein bauhat kotahi karte hain (make a mistake) aur “Zahiri” taur per mehboob biwiyon ki tarah dosri biwiyon ke hooqoq aada nahi karte aur inhein maulaqah(hang) bana ker rakh chodte hain, na inhein taalaq dete hai aur na hi haq-e-zaujiyat ada karte ahin..yeh intehai zulm hai jis se yahan (quraan) mein roka gaya hai Aur Aap(PBUH) ne farmaya hai.”jis shaks ki do biwiyaan ho’n aur who aik ki taraf mayal (towards) ho(yaani dosri ko nazar andaaz kiye rakhe) tu qyaamat ke din woh is tarah aayega keh is ke jism ka aik hissah (yaani nisf) saaqit hoga…..(tirmazi- kitab-un-nikkah)”
Dosri baat yeh ke baaz awqaat sirf Ayatein padh lene se un ka shaan-e-noozol aur mafhoom sumjh nahi aata isi liye tafseer bhi padhni chaiye ta keh zaihn khule........aur yeh tafser hai...
Aap ko yeh urdu na sumjh aa rahi ho tu plzzzz informe me hum aap ke liye English mein dobarah likh deinge.....
khush rahiye..
Allahafiz..

Shaim
20th June 2006, 08:07
mashallah app to bohat pohanchay hoey haan
and unhoon ney jo Qurani dalalil dey wo app key nazdeek ghalat haan
very good

bahi app logon ka yahi to masla hay
app logon ney deen ko mazak bana liya hay
jo kuch Quran o hadees kaheey wo ghalat , jo app kaheen wo durust
very good jee very good

lagey raheen app Quran o hadees ko chor ker apni baat per

Allah Bhala keray hmm sab ka

hum sab yahan ik family jese hain to humin ik doosre se araam se or sakoon se bat kerni chahiye na?:)
ise thread mai pehle yahi guzaarish maine aabi bhai se ki thi or ab ap se ker rahii hoon
baat sirf itnii hai k her kise ka nazarya alag hoota hai........ap apne points ko defend kariin or unko unkey points ko defend kerne dain or ise tarah behes kariin........per no larai or attack!:)
we r :alhamd: muslims n bro/sis........so there should not b any sort of hardness inside us 4 any1.....!

KHUSH RAHIYYE
or cool ho ker discussion jarii rakhiye.....

All of u r going v nice :masha ......Carry On!:salam:

Shaim
20th June 2006, 08:10
Asalmaalaikum......:)
Aap ko humare aabi bhai se is lehajay mein baat nahi karni chaiye. Aap ka apna view hai aur un ka apna…….aap ko koi haq nahi ke aap is tarah kisi kisi per bhi tanz karein….Aap ko apni baat kaihni hai aur aap ko lagta hai keh aap haq per hain tu plzzz be polite and try to use those words or statements which not harm someone self respects…ok!!
Khush rahiye..
Allahafiz..

yahaan ap bhi thoori harsh ho gae na sis!:)
carry on ur discussions in a polite way.......requesting 2 all of u!

tauruskhan
20th June 2006, 13:27
Waalaikumaasalm..
Aap ne jo kuch bhi likha hai yahn hum ne padha balke chaar se paanch baar padha. Aap apni baat kaih chuke ab humari bhi padh lijye...............
Paihli baat jo hai who yeh ke yahan, is thread mein kisi neb hi yeh nahi kaha ke chaar shaadiyan “farz” hain..humara discussion is baat per hai k eager Islam chaar shadiyoon ko jayaz (lawfull, legal) qarar deta hai tu mashrah usey bura kuyun sumjhta hai?????
Aap ne jin aayat ka hawalah diya hai unhein aayat ko samne rakhte hoye yeh padhiye..(yaani Sura-e-nissa Aayat no:3 aur 129):
“Aik mard (ager zarorat mand) hai tu chaar aurtein apne nikah mein rakh sakta hai lakeen is se zyadah nahi”
“Raha sawal Insaaf ka tu ager aik shaks ki aik se zyadah biwiyaan hongi tu dil talooq aur muhabbat mein who sub ke saath yaksaan(similar) soolok nahi ker sakta kyun ke muhabbat fail-e-qalbi (related to heart) hai jis per koi ikhtiyaar nahi..khud Aap(PBUH) ko bhi apni biwiyon mein sub se zyadah muhabbat hazrat Aayshah(RZ) se thi…khuwahish ke baawajood insaaf na karne ka matlab yahi qalbi millan(bend of heart) hai aur muhabbat mein adam masawat hai ager yeh muhabbat “zahiri” hooqoq mein manay(obstacle) na bane tu Indallah(before Allah) Qabil-e-moakhizah( accountability) nahi…………lakeen aksar log is qalbi milaan ki wajah se dosri biwiyon ke hooqoq ki adaygi mein bauhat kotahi karte hain (make a mistake) aur “Zahiri” taur per mehboob biwiyon ki tarah dosri biwiyon ke hooqoq aada nahi karte aur inhein maulaqah(hang) bana ker rakh chodte hain, na inhein taalaq dete hai aur na hi haq-e-zaujiyat ada karte ahin..yeh intehai zulm hai jis se yahan (quraan) mein roka gaya hai Aur Aap(PBUH) ne farmaya hai.”jis shaks ki do biwiyaan ho’n aur who aik ki taraf mayal (towards) ho(yaani dosri ko nazar andaaz kiye rakhe) tu qyaamat ke din woh is tarah aayega keh is ke jism ka aik hissah (yaani nisf) saaqit hoga…..(tirmazi- kitab-un-nikkah)”
Dosri baat yeh ke baaz awqaat sirf Ayatein padh lene se un ka shaan-e-noozol aur mafhoom sumjh nahi aata isi liye tafseer bhi padhni chaiye ta keh zaihn khule........aur yeh tafser hai...
Aap ko yeh urdu na sumjh aa rahi ho tu plzzzz informe me hum aap ke liye English mein dobarah likh deinge.....
khush rahiye..
Allahafiz..

walikum as salam

main bi ab modbana guzarish karoon ga key
tandey dil sey peray ga

islam main 5 tarah key do and don'ts haan

jo key main ney pehlay hi likh deya they , is page key first post ko dekain

app dekain key dosri shadi "mobah" yani allowed hay , farz ya mustahib nahi hay , yani jis key kernay ko kaha gia ho
even encourge bi naeen kia jata

ab baat yeh hay key koi dosri shadi keray to keeon "why reason"
majbori , allowed , koi eitraz naeen keray ga.
bewi hi insan ko sab sey acchi tarah janti hay ( tell me am i right or wrong)
ab koi sahks apni aik bewi sey adal naeen kerta , to wo 2, ya 3 sey kia karey ga
so ager wo 2 shadi kerta hay and ager wo eitraz kerti hay to wo us ka haq hay. ager insan adal ker raha ho ga to sab ko nazar ayeh ga and na to wo kuch kahey gi and na hi muashra

lakin app dehk lain quran bi kehta hay key admi adal naeen kerta and wo yeh bi janta hay key wo apney app ko rok naeen sakey ga. to wo keeon shadi kerta hay dosri. wo to Allah ki bani ho shart ko jantey bhojtey torta hay jo key zeada bra guna hay and
jo ghalat ker raha ho us ko kaha jaey key wo ghalat ker raha hay to yahi to islam kehta hay .
so ager muashra aik rangeen mazaj insan ko dosri shadi kernay per bora bhala kehta hay to teek hi kehta hay jo key aeen islam key motabik hay

ager wo adal keray ga , to na hi bewi kuch kahey gi and na hi muashra

yeh to esa swal hay key chor kehta hay key log mujeh chor keeon kehtay haan yeh daleel detay hoey key islam ney borey name sey pokarney sey mana kiahay. bahi app chori kerna chor do , log app ko chor kehna chor deen gay. same app adal kero , bewi bi khush ho gi and muashra bi app ko bora naeen kaheey ga ya dosri shadi hi na karo

Shaim
20th June 2006, 13:45
walikum as salam

main bi ab modbana guzarish karoon ga key
tandey dil sey peray ga

islam main 5 tarah key do and don'ts haan

jo key main ney pehlay hi likh deya they , is page key first post ko dekain

app dekain key dosri shadi "mobah" yani allowed hay , farz ya mustahib nahi hay , yani jis key kernay ko kaha gia ho
even encourge bi naeen kia jata

ab baat yeh hay key koi dosri shadi keray to keeon "why reason"
majbori , allowed , koi eitraz naeen keray ga.
bewi hi insan ko sab sey acchi tarah janti hay ( tell me am i right or wrong)
ab koi sahks apni aik bewi sey adal naeen kerta , to wo 2, ya 3 sey kia karey ga
so ager wo 2 shadi kerta hay and ager wo eitraz kerti hay to wo us ka haq hay. ager insan adal ker raha ho ga to sab ko nazar ayeh ga and na to wo kuch kahey gi and na hi muashra

lakin app dehk lain quran bi kehta hay key admi adal naeen kerta and wo yeh bi janta hay key wo apney app ko rok naeen sakey ga. to wo keeon shadi kerta hay dosri. wo to Allah ki bani ho shart ko jantey bhojtey torta hay jo key zeada bra guna hay and
jo ghalat ker raha ho us ko kaha jaey key wo ghalat ker raha hay to yahi to islam kehta hay .
so ager muashra aik rangeen mazaj insan ko dosri shadi kernay per bora bhala kehta hay to teek hi kehta hay jo key aeen islam key motabik hay

ager wo adal keray ga , to na hi bewi kuch kahey gi and na hi muashra

yeh to esa swal hay key chor kehta hay key log mujeh chor keeon kehtay haan yeh daleel detay hoey key islam ney borey name sey pokarney sey mana kiahay. bahi app chori kerna chor do , log app ko chor kehna chor deen gay. same app adal kero , bewi bi khush ho gi and muashra bi app ko bora naeen kaheey ga ya dosri shadi hi na karo

NICE!:clap: :clap:

tauruskhan
20th June 2006, 13:48
ap ne jin aayat ka hawalah diya hai unhein aayat ko samne rakhte hoye yeh padhiye..(yaani Sura-e-nissa Aayat no:3 aur 129):
“Aik mard (ager zarorat mand) hai tu chaar aurtein apne nikah mein rakh sakta hai lakeen is se zyadah nahi”
..
app dubra sey perhay , and kindly kisi aik ki tarjuma and tafseer sey mutasir na hoey ga keeon key tumam tarjumay , human made haan
jitnay zeada app key pass ho sakeen sab ko rakeen apney samney and peryahe

yahan app ney braket main likah ager zarorat mand hay
us ko bian naeen kia , us ki tarashree bi dondney ki kohsish kerain

pir mohaley wakoo bi dehkain , yahan 4 kernay ki ijazat naeen dee ja rahi
wo arab and non muslim jin ko apney rista izwaj main 100 100 bewian rakney ki adat thee un ko kum sey kam ka kaha ja raha hay pir shart laga di gai hay
key adal ker sakoo gay to 1 sey zeada karoo werna aik per aiktafa karo


ager fikray per ghor kareey jis per quran ney zoor dia hay
werna sirf aik


“Raha sawal Insaaf ka tu ager aik shaks ki aik se zyadah biwiyaan hongi tu dil talooq aur muhabbat mein who sub ke saath yaksaan(similar) soolok nahi ker sakta kyun ke muhabbat fail-e-qalbi (related to heart) hai jis per koi ikhtiyaar nahi

yahi baat quran ney bi liki hay ayat number 129 peray

sath is ayat ki nazool ki waja bi perayay
us koom ko kaha ja raha tha jin key haan 100 100 bewian rakna and un ka khial na rakna amm tha
so is tarah un key samney skhat sharat raki hay key pehli baat tum adal naeen ker saktey lakin yeh sahrat hay is ki base per hi tum aik sey zeaada shadi kero werna sirf one


Dosri baat yeh ke baaz awqaat sirf Ayatein padh lene se un ka shaan-e-noozol aur mafhoom sumjh nahi aata isi liye tafseer bhi padhni chaiye ta keh zaihn khule........aur yeh tafser hai...


yahi baat main app ko kahoon ga key kisi aik insan ki kitab pernay sey app ko Allah ki kitab main batai hoi baat samj naeen aa sakti
us key liay behtraeen tareeqa yeh hay key app arbi sekain and jitney momkin ho sakeen moktalif ulma key tafaseer and tarjuma jama kerain and un ko perain , werna app sahi matlab ko naeen samj sakeen gay

keeon key app Quran ko naeen kisi admi key likhay hoey ilfaz ko pertay haan

and yeh bi sach hay key aj tak dunia main Quran ka aik bi sahi tarjuma naeen ho saka , Quran ki tarjumani to hoti hay , tarjuma naeen hoa aj tak
so kisi aik ka point of view dehknay and us ko Allah ka kalam kehnay sey pehlay , jitnay zeada point of view app per lain utna accha hay

ummid
20th June 2006, 14:39
In response of filbahere post….

Asalamaalaikum......
jub hume humare ustaad ne quraan sharref ki tallem di thi tu tarjumma bhi karna sikhaya tha…..phir kaha tha Aap per quraan ka likha khool diya..Arbi sikhai taakeh tarjumma ker sako…..ab yahan per hum apni zimedaari nibha chuke ab aap ki baari.hum ne jo sikhaya who hoorf-e-aakhir nahi…..Aap apne nazariye se daikho…..padho aur goor karo….phir bhi sumjh na aaye tu hum hain……….lakeen hum se usi waqt roojo karna jub tum her paihloo per goor ker chuki ho……and that’s the fact….hum ne quraan ka tarjumma sirf kisi ka kiya howa nahi padha.hum Arbi jaante hain hum ne khud karne ki koshish ki aur samjhne ki bhi……jub thakne lagte hain tu apne ustaad se roojo karte hain….phir who sumjhaate ahin aur phir bhi na sumjhe tu tafseerein padhte hain… Aur sumjhne ki koshish karte ahin……..
now come to the point………baat saari yeh hai ke Islam mein chaar shaadiyon ko jazayz qarar dia gaya hai lakeen kuch shartein bhi hai jis mein sub se paihli first wife ki raza mandi ki baat hai……..ager paihli biwi ijazat de rahi hai aur jaisa ke aap ne kaha ke wife apne husband ko acchi tarah janti hai.tu ager who ijazat de rahi hai aur usey koi aitraaz nahi tu maashrah ko aik taraf hi rakh dein……..Zarorat se humari muraad yeh thi ke if a person is not able to satisfied his basic desire from his first wife tu galat raahon per jaane se acha hai ke woh nikha ker le….kya hum galaht kaih rahe hain???????????
Aap bhi yahi kaih rahe ho ke chaar shadiyan fardh nahi aur hum bhi yahi kaih rahe hain farq sirf lafzon ka hai…zaror goor kijyega………
Aage aap ki sumjh humari sumjh se bala hai…….hum ne abhi practical life mein qadam nahi rakha….Aap ki soach hosakta hia hum se pukhta ho…. Baaqi Allah sub ko baihtareen hidayat dene wala hia…..Duwa kjye ke woh sub ko naik hidayat de(aameen)
"May Allh grace upon you"
khush rahiye.....
Allahaifz..

tauruskhan
20th June 2006, 15:49
In response of filbahere post….

Asalamaalaikum......
jub hume humare ustaad ne quraan sharref ki tallem di thi tu tarjumma bhi karna sikhaya tha…..phir kaha tha Aap per quraan ka likha khool diya..Arbi sikhai taakeh tarjumma ker sako…..ab yahan per hum apni zimedaari nibha chuke ab aap ki baari.hum ne jo sikhaya who hoorf-e-aakhir nahi…..Aap apne nazariye se daikho…..padho aur goor karo….phir bhi sumjh na aaye tu hum hain……….lakeen hum se usi waqt roojo karna jub tum her paihloo per goor ker chuki ho……and that’s the fact….hum ne quraan ka tarjumma sirf kisi ka kiya howa nahi padha.hum Arbi jaante hain hum ne khud karne ki koshish ki aur samjhne ki bhi……jub thakne lagte hain tu apne ustaad se roojo karte hain….phir who sumjhaate ahin aur phir bhi na sumjhe tu tafseerein padhte hain… Aur sumjhne ki koshish karte ahin……..
now come to the point………baat saari yeh hai ke Islam mein chaar shaadiyon ko jazayz qarar dia gaya hai lakeen kuch shartein bhi hai jis mein sub se paihli first wife ki raza mandi ki baat hai……..ager paihli biwi ijazat de rahi hai aur jaisa ke aap ne kaha ke wife apne husband ko acchi tarah janti hai.tu ager who ijazat de rahi hai aur usey koi aitraaz nahi tu maashrah ko aik taraf hi rakh dein……..Zarorat se humari muraad yeh thi ke if a person is not able to satisfied his basic desire from his first wife tu galat raahon per jaane se acha hai ke woh nikha ker le….kya hum galaht kaih rahe hain???????????
Aap bhi yahi kaih rahe ho ke chaar shadiyan fardh nahi aur hum bhi yahi kaih rahe hain farq sirf lafzon ka hai…zaror goor kijyega………
Aage aap ki sumjh humari sumjh se bala hai…….hum ne abhi practical life mein qadam nahi rakha….Aap ki soach hosakta hia hum se pukhta ho…. Baaqi Allah sub ko baihtareen hidayat dene wala hia…..Duwa kjye ke woh sub ko naik hidayat de(aameen)
"May Allh grace upon you"
khush rahiye.....
Allahaifz..

walikum as salam
perh ker kushi hoi key app ney Quran ko perha and samja bi hay with arbi
bohat kushi hoi

ab baat per atey haan
app jis tarah baat kertay haan actually quran per dorehazir key researcher is ki taeed naeen ker rahey . actually this was the old concept

zara idher dehkay key adhay paney sey bharey glass ko
koi kehta hay key adha bhara hoa hay and koi kehta hay key adha khali hay

yahan bazahir to baat aik si lagti hay lakin actually yahan du alag alag mafhoom atey haan
aik positivity ka and aik negativity ka

teek keh raha hoon na

ab aeen is ayat per
keey 2, 3 ya 4 shadian karoo ager samjtay ho key adal naeen ker sako gay to sirf aik karo

ab yeh sochain key yeh kis wakat nazil ho rahi thee and keeon , why
yahan maqsad , 0 sey zeada ki taraf hay ya , bohat zeada sey kam sey kam ki taraf.

yahan ayat point ho rahi thee , jab dunia , la tadad shadian kerti thee, kai kai bewian hoti theen.
logon ko apni bewion key name tak naeen pata hotey they
to esay main kaha gia , key 2, 3 ya 4 karo and shert bi raki key adal karo
yani mazeed tight kia gia , pir kaha gia esa na ker sako to sirf one shadi karoo


ab ager hmm down to up sochain yani jesa key for example app log keh rahey ho to is sey kia hota hay key , bohat sey logon key pass hadiar aa jata hay
key je ijazat hay and ker lo shadi

halankey ayat ka mazmoon , sirf one shadi ki taraf point ker raha hay

ab main ney apni taraf sey pori kohsish ki hay
baki app per hay

ummid
20th June 2006, 18:44
walikum as salam
perh ker kushi hoi key app ney Quran ko perha and samja bi hay with arbi
bohat kushi hoi

ab baat per atey haan
app jis tarah baat kertay haan actually quran per dorehazir key researcher is ki taeed naeen ker rahey . actually this was the old concept

zara idher dehkay key adhay paney sey bharey glass ko
koi kehta hay key adha bhara hoa hay and koi kehta hay key adha khali hay

yahan bazahir to baat aik si lagti hay lakin actually yahan du alag alag mafhoom atey haan
aik positivity ka and aik negativity ka

teek keh raha hoon na

ab aeen is ayat per
keey 2, 3 ya 4 shadian karoo ager samjtay ho key adal naeen ker sako gay to sirf aik karo

ab yeh sochain key yeh kis wakat nazil ho rahi thee and keeon , why
yahan maqsad , 0 sey zeada ki taraf hay ya , bohat zeada sey kam sey kam ki taraf.

yahan ayat point ho rahi thee , jab dunia , la tadad shadian kerti thee, kai kai bewian hoti theen.
logon ko apni bewion key name tak naeen pata hotey they
to esay main kaha gia , key 2, 3 ya 4 karo and shert bi raki key adal karo
yani mazeed tight kia gia , pir kaha gia esa na ker sako to sirf one shadi karoo


ab ager hmm down to up sochain yani jesa key for example app log keh rahey ho to is sey kia hota hay key , bohat sey logon key pass hadiar aa jata hay
key je ijazat hay and ker lo shadi

halankey ayat ka mazmoon , sirf one shadi ki taraf point ker raha hay

ab main ney apni taraf sey pori kohsish ki hay
baki app per hay

Asalamaalaikum…….
Well!!! Hume lagta hai ab hume apne ustad muhataram se baat ker hi lena chahiye kyun ke I am not getting you:mecry: …Aap aik hi baat ko itna ghooma ghooma ker bayan ker rahe hain ke hume usey sumjhne mein time lag raha hai:( ….daikha jaye tu Sumjh ka farq hai aur kuch nahi warna baat aik hi hai…… Aap kaih rahe ho ke aik hi shaadi ki ijazat hai lakeen chaar ko jayaz is liye tharaya gaya ke paihle Arabs 100 wifes rakha karte the………aur hum kaih rahe hain ke chaar ki ijazat hai aur adal na hone ka dar ho tu aik per hi iktefa karne ke liye kaha gaya hai…..aap shaan-e-noozol per baat kar rahe ho aur hum Aayat ke mafhoom ke mutaabiq……..Baat saari aik hai ke Adal na karne ka dar ho aur Insaan adal nahi kar sakta is liye who ik hi shaadi per iqtefa kare lakeen ager who zahiri taur per adal kar sakta hai (jaise aik sahabi ne apni dono biwiyon mein tarbooz is tarah taqsim kiya tha ke aik ko aik ka adha aur dosre tarbooz ka aadha aur dosri ke saath bhi same kiya…ager koi itni baariqi se Insaaf kerne wala hai )aur uski paihli wife bhi usey Ijazat de rahi hai tu is soorat mein kya who dosri shaadi nahi ker sakta?????(Plzzzzzzzzz yeh do soortein jo hum ne wazaih ki hai is ka jawab sirf han ya na mein dijye ke kya in dono soorton mein bhi koi shaks dosri shaadi ker sakta hai?????han ya nahi)aksar hota hai khandan ka naam qayam rakhne ke liye ager kisi ke gher chiraag na jale(Hope you will get this:) ) tu aksar mard apni wife se ijazat le ker dosri shaadi ker lete hain jub k ager is baat ko daikhe tu soor-e-Raihman mein darj hai keh Siwaye Allah Rub-ul-izat ke her cheez faani hai…phir is tarah ki baat kya maani.any wayz it’s a different topic……on topic..tu aisa hota hai….aksar mard Aullad ki khuwahish mein dosri shaadi kar lete hain per yahan bhi adal waali baat aa jaati hai..lakeen ager woh adal ker sakte hain aur Allah ne unhein hidayat bhi di hai tub aap kya kaheinge?????? Phir bhi in tamam baton ko hum apne ustaad se personally mil ker Inshaalh clear karne ki koshish kareinge…..jub tak hume is ka concept aur clear nahi ho jaata hum ab is bare mein kuch na hi kahe tu baihter hain…. humare ustaad ne kaha tha quraan mein koi baat gumaan ke zariye na karna…….hume dar hai ke kahein khud apni baat ko wazaih karne ke liye hum koi aisi baat na kaih dein jo hume Allah ka gunah gaar bana de……. :mecry:
Khush rahiye…:rose
Allah Hafiz....:lpop:

Mr. Sialkoty
21st June 2006, 09:35
Asalamaalaikum…….
Well!!! Hume lagta hai ab hume apne ustad muhataram se baat ker hi lena chahiye kyun ke I am not getting you:mecry: …Aap aik hi baat ko itna ghooma ghooma ker bayan ker rahe hain ke hume usey sumjhne mein time lag raha hai:( ….daikha jaye tu Sumjh ka farq hai aur kuch nahi warna baat aik hi hai…… Aap kaih rahe ho ke aik hi shaadi ki ijazat hai lakeen chaar ko jayaz is liye tharaya gaya ke paihle Arabs 100 wifes rakha karte the………aur hum kaih rahe hain ke chaar ki ijazat hai aur adal na hone ka dar ho tu aik per hi iktefa karne ke liye kaha gaya hai…..aap shaan-e-noozol per baat kar rahe ho aur hum Aayat ke mafhoom ke mutaabiq……..Baat saari aik hai ke Adal na karne ka dar ho aur Insaan adal nahi kar sakta is liye who ik hi shaadi per iqtefa kare lakeen ager who zahiri taur per adal kar sakta hai (jaise aik sahabi ne apni dono biwiyon mein tarbooz is tarah taqsim kiya tha ke aik ko aik ka adha aur dosre tarbooz ka aadha aur dosri ke saath bhi same kiya…ager koi itni baariqi se Insaaf kerne wala hai )aur uski paihli wife bhi usey Ijazat de rahi hai tu is soorat mein kya who dosri shaadi nahi ker sakta?????(Plzzzzzzzzz yeh do soortein jo hum ne wazaih ki hai is ka jawab sirf han ya na mein dijye ke kya in dono soorton mein bhi koi shaks dosri shaadi ker sakta hai?????han ya nahi)aksar hota hai khandan ka naam qayam rakhne ke liye ager kisi ke gher chiraag na jale(Hope you will get this:) ) tu aksar mard apni wife se ijazat le ker dosri shaadi ker lete hain jub k ager is baat ko daikhe tu soor-e-Raihman mein darj hai keh Siwaye Allah Rub-ul-izat ke her cheez faani hai…phir is tarah ki baat kya maani.any wayz it’s a different topic……on topic..tu aisa hota hai….aksar mard Aullad ki khuwahish mein dosri shaadi kar lete hain per yahan bhi adal waali baat aa jaati hai..lakeen ager woh adal ker sakte hain aur Allah ne unhein hidayat bhi di hai tub aap kya kaheinge?????? Phir bhi in tamam baton ko hum apne ustaad se personally mil ker Inshaalh clear karne ki koshish kareinge…..jub tak hume is ka concept aur clear nahi ho jaata hum ab is bare mein kuch na hi kahe tu baihter hain…. humare ustaad ne kaha tha quraan mein koi baat gumaan ke zariye na karna…….hume dar hai ke kahein khud apni baat ko wazaih karne ke liye hum koi aisi baat na kaih dein jo hume Allah ka gunah gaar bana de……. :mecry:
Khush rahiye…:rose
Allah Hafiz....:lpop:

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Mashallah

daad deni paray gi aap ki taleem aur aap ki sooch per...aap ki aik aik baat se agree kerte hein hum :thmbup:

ummid
24th June 2006, 09:40
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Mashallah

daad deni paray gi aap ki taleem aur aap ki sooch per...aap ki aik aik baat se agree kerte hein hum :thmbup:

well!! jo bhi sikhaya mama ne aur humare ustadon ne...jaante hain Aamir humari school mein hum se kaha jaata tha......Aap aik musalmaan talib-e-ilm hain jub aap school aur college pass kar chuko tu is tarah yahan se niklo ke tumhare left hand mein science, right hand mein quraan aur paishaani per "kalmah" likha ho........(yeh sir sayaad Ahmad khan ka qool tha) aur hum se oath li gai thi ke hum apni school ka naam kabhi spoil nahi kareige..........:)

aabi2cool
25th June 2006, 08:28
:) :rose
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25th June 2006, 08:33
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ummid
25th June 2006, 09:03
:jazak: :rose Aabi bhai................Aap ne waqai kaafi points clear kiye hain........... :)
khush rahiye....:rose

Mr. Sialkoty
25th June 2006, 09:05
Abid you simply ROCK

what an explanation...Mashallah you got a good knowledge...Allah Taalah tumharay ilm mein aur izafa fermaye.

Soorah-e-Nisa ke aayat number 129 ka terjma aur tafseer se mujay aik nai baat ka pata chala...insaan to zindagi ke her marhalay pe seekhta he...JazakAllah

aabi2cool
25th June 2006, 14:44
Abid you simply ROCK

what an explanation...Mashallah you got a good knowledge...Allah Taalah tumharay ilm mein aur izafa fermaye.

Soorah-e-Nisa ke aayat number 129 ka terjma aur tafseer se mujay aik nai baat ka pata chala...insaan to zindagi ke her marhalay pe seekhta he...JazakAllah
ASLAMO ALYKUM , Amir bhai post ki pasnd ka shukriya aur main bhi aap ki tarah deen ka iak adna sa talib ilam hon aur aap ny theek kaha k insaan to sari zindgi seekhta hi hy..:rose :salam:

aabi2cool
25th June 2006, 14:49
:jazak: :rose Aabi bhai................Aap ne waqai kaafi points clear kiye hain........... :)
khush rahiye....:rose
w/salaam dear sister aapki hosala afzai ka shukriya kash ab ye poients filb here bhai ko bhi samjh main aajaien to hamri mehnat rang lay...:rose :salam:

tauruskhan
25th June 2006, 19:03
Aik challenge for every one

Islam hi nay sab sey pehlay one marrige ka concept dia tha
ager koi eiteraz kerta hay to kisi bi mazbi kitab hota ker dehk lay key
us main kaheen bi marry only one ka naeen kaha gia

yeh sirf o sirf islam ki khasiat hay key Quran main sora nissa ayat 3 main marry only one ka kaha gia hay

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25th June 2006, 19:12
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Masood
27th June 2006, 00:23
Main bhi ab is behas mein koodney laga hoon :)

Muhammad Khalil
27th June 2006, 05:59
Buhat khoob aabid aap ny dohd ka dood aur pani ka pani ker dia hay....

tauruskhan
27th June 2006, 07:29
app hi key jowabat main sey

tauruskhan
27th June 2006, 07:48
dehk lain key tafaseer bi adal ka keh rahi haan
lakin un ki tafaseer main app izafa ker detay haan key wo adal dosra hay and yeh adal dosra hay

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Ahkari dafa yahan likh raha hoon , aeenda is thread main meri koi post na ho gi


dosri shadi kerna mobah hay (means key ker lena gunna naeen hay )
yani key dosri shadi kerna na to farz hay and na mustahib yani
na hi lazmi kernay ka hukam hay and na hi is ko encourge kia jata hay

ager mustahib bi hota to kaheen na kaheen ye zaroor milta key dosri shadi kernay wala zeada sowab hasil keray ga as compare to aik shadi kernay wala


ab app ney apni dee ho tafaseer ko hi per lain
her jaga yeh hay key loog us zamaney main bohat bohat shadian kertay they
yeh us zamaney ka custom tha
islam ney is per adal ki shart lagai , and Allah key kanoon key motabik
koi shaks bi ( 4 sey zeada bewion ) sey at a time adal naeen ker sakta
koi bi shaks ho , pir sath yeh bi kaha key aik karo is tarah tum na insafi sey bach saktey ho. pir ayat number 129 main bi kaha key bewion key dermain adal kerna insan key bas ki baat naeen , is tareeqay sey insan ko targeeb di key wo sirf aik shadi per iktafa karey .
main pehlay kah chuka hoon key islam ney dosri shadi ki ijazat di hay yeh naeen kaha key lazmi karo , pir adal ki shart bi lagai hay
yani Quran ka nukta nazar yeh hay key kam sey kam yani aik shadi karo
is ki taraf zoor jata hay,
adhori ayat ka nateeja kia nikalta hay , shart katam ho jati hay , sirf 4 shadion ki ijazat rah jati hay

ab koi shaks aik sey zeada shadian kerta hay , and adal kerta hay na to bewi kuch kehti hay and na hi muashra bora kehta hay
bat hamesha waheen aati hay jahan insaaf na ho

ager adal sey morad nan nukta hoti to , pir jis key pass jitni dolat hoti and bohat maal hota , wo us key motabik utni shadian kerta . lakin islam ney upper most limit keeon di , kia zeada dolat mand , zeada khawateen ko nan nukta naeen dey sakta
jee naeen , yahan haq -e- azwajeeat yani mohabat , hmm bistari , nan nukta and degar tumam tarah ka adal yahan per shamil hay

app dehk lain key her tarah ka adal shamil hay , and 4 key sath adal kernay main kaha gia hay key insan na insafi ker jata hay , is leya behtar hay key , marry only one


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at the end
app ney meray challange ka jowab naeen dia
ager app kehtay haan key islam ney sab sey pehlay one marrige ka naeen kaha , to mujeh dunia main koi bi so called asami kitab
bible , vida, and degar kitaboon main sey la ker dain key us main marry only one kaha gia ho

jab key hmm dehkay haan key Quran is the only religious book jis main
marry only one ka kaha gia hay ( kia app is sey inkar kertay haan )

kia app inkar kertay haan key Quran main marry only one ka naeen kaha gia
is ka answer yes or no main dejay ga ,

tauruskhan
27th June 2006, 07:59
Buhat khoob aabid aap ny dohd ka dood aur pani ka pani ker dia hay....

kia app bi inkar kertay haan key islam is the only religious book on the face of earth jis main marry only one kaha gia ho
answer is required only in yes or no

jowab denay sey pehlay oper sora nissa ayat number 3 ko pori tarah sey per lena .
ager answer no ho to app ko kisi dosri relegious books sey qutation deni ho gi

Mr. Sialkoty
27th June 2006, 09:12
Filba Bhai

difference of opinion her jagah hota he

Aik Soorah per aap doono ki mutzaad'aaraiyoon doosray loogon ko shub'haat ka shikaar ker sakti hein. Her cheez ko akal ki kasoosti pe parakhna akalmandi nahi, islam atal he, is ki taaleemaat atal hein, sub se pehlay hamein yeh samajna chahiye. Shayad hamari fehm-farast is kaabil nahi ke hum deen ki her bareekiyoon aur is ke peecheedgiyoon ko apni nakas-akal ki waja se bilkul sahi samaj sakein. aik jagah arz he "deen ko samajnay ki kooshish karo" aur aik jagah pe yeh bhi aaya he ke "deen ke moaamlaat mein Behas kerne se bacho". Hum loogon mein kuch khaamiyaan yeh bhi hein ke hum apni baat ko sanad sabit kerne ke liye mun-gharat dalail pesh kerne se bhi nahi chooktay. Abid ne Soorah Nisa ka reference de ke apne mookaf ko wazeh ker diya...ager aap yeh sabit kerna chahtay hein ke islam ne sirf aik hi shadi pe emphasis kia he to aap ko bhi Quran ka hawala de ke apni baat ke pukhta honay ka saboot dena paray ga.

Lekin mere khyaal mein is se bhi ziada behtar he ke yeh topic close kia jaye, wo is liye ke yeh behas nazreyaati ehtalaafat se ziada deeni-nazreyaati ehtalaafaat ka moor le chuki he. Aap loog hatal'amkaan kooshish yeh karo ke jis baat ka mukamal saboot he wohi pesh karo, warna behas na karo. Yeh bohat nazuk moaamlaat hein...perhaiz karo

tauruskhan
27th June 2006, 19:52
Filba Bhai

difference of opinion her jagah hota he

Aik Soorah per aap doono ki mutzaad'aaraiyoon doosray loogon ko shub'haat ka shikaar ker sakti hein. Her cheez ko akal ki kasoosti pe parakhna akalmandi nahi, islam atal he, is ki taaleemaat atal hein, sub se pehlay hamein yeh samajna chahiye. Shayad hamari fehm-farast is kaabil nahi ke hum deen ki her bareekiyoon aur is ke peecheedgiyoon ko apni nakas-akal ki waja se bilkul sahi samaj sakein. aik jagah arz he "deen ko samajnay ki kooshish karo" aur aik jagah pe yeh bhi aaya he ke "deen ke moaamlaat mein Behas kerne se bacho". Hum loogon mein kuch khaamiyaan yeh bhi hein ke hum apni baat ko sanad sabit kerne ke liye mun-gharat dalail pesh kerne se bhi nahi chooktay. Abid ne Soorah Nisa ka reference de ke apne mookaf ko wazeh ker diya...ager aap yeh sabit kerna chahtay hein ke islam ne sirf aik hi shadi pe emphasis kia he to aap ko bhi Quran ka hawala de ke apni baat ke pukhta honay ka saboot dena paray ga.

Lekin mere khyaal mein is se bhi ziada behtar he ke yeh topic close kia jaye, wo is liye ke yeh behas nazreyaati ehtalaafat se ziada deeni-nazreyaati ehtalaafaat ka moor le chuki he. Aap loog hatal'amkaan kooshish yeh karo ke jis baat ka mukamal saboot he wohi pesh karo, warna behas na karo. Yeh bohat nazuk moaamlaat hein...perhaiz karo

app page 3 per meri pehli post per lain , sorra nissa ayat 3 and 129 , one marrige ki hi taraf point out kerti haan , bat hay samjnay ki

second mujeh afsoos hay key

Mr. Sialkoty
28th June 2006, 07:17
app page 3 per meri pehli post per lain , sorra nissa ayat 3 and 129 , one marrige ki hi taraf point out kerti haan , bat hay samjnay ki

second mujeh afsoos hay key

Mere bhai mein sub kuch perh chuka hoon, meri aap loogon se darkhawaast he ke is maslay per mazeed behas na ki jaye...aagay jese aap ki merzi :)